Read Chapter 19 in Minds on Trial
What psychological characteristics were evident in Andrea Yates' case? Describe those characteristics and how they related to her competence/sanity.
Google around and find out 3 things you didn't know about her case and describe that information. Include your links at the bottom of the post.
The Andrea Yates case is at the forefront of the question as to competency, and mental insanity in terms of the law. As for the case itself, it consisted of what appeared to be a family of five. The mother of the family Andrea Yates, the Father Russell Yates, and there subsequent five children appeared to be a fully functional family, however upon the murder of the five children by Mrs. Yates in June 2001 that drastically changed. When it grabbed the media attention questions arose as to who she was? What sparked her actions? And could it have been avoided? All of these are common associated questions in which the media coins when cases of this nature arise. Following the development of the case the format of the justice system became clear in terms of its polarity and role. The Defense headed by lawyer Phillip Resnick would seek to claim insanity, whereas the prosecuting attorney headed by Dr. Park Dietz would seek to testify that Yates was competent and knew that what she was doing was wrong. Firstly, as the case pointed out the continued question of the association between “psychology and law” comes into question. This became clear when the qualifications for identifying mental insanity in terms of Texas’s law were addressed. In terms of the M’Naughten rule; the perpetrator must know what the nature of consequences are, and secondly that the act was right or wrong. However, in under Texas jurisdiction only the second qualification has to be met. As a result, in terms of claiming insanity as a defense the qualifications were extremely narrow.
In terms of the case several factors were addressed under the development of the psychosis break that Andrea Yates experienced that horrific night in June in 2001. Firstly, the family was experiencing some dynamic socioeconomic and residential changes. The father in this case Russell Yates would go own to pursue his dynamic career with NASA. As a result, the family would succumb to moving, changing from a solid home to a mobile living unit, and changing residency. This in correlation with the fact that Yates father had succumb to Alzheimer’s disease were all leading factors of her mental break (due to stressors) Further, in terms of her psychological state a history of depression was noted, recurring attendance to hospitals for bad eating hobbits, and so forth all were leading up to a point of a significant event or “break” in here mental health which could be extrapolated to physical reactions. (In this case catastrophic)
Her mental health, in this case her postpartum mental disorder, her delusions and hallucinations, alone with her distorted view of reality all directly deal with psychology. This deals specifically with her mental state. In this case Yates suffered from somewhat the same characteristics of schizophrenia, psychotic disorders were behaviors, and thoughts are profoundly influenced. In this case, as stated it happened only after one of the children were born were she admitted only after the crime that she had thoughts of harming the child in order to protect him from the devil. Further, her symptoms became clear that a mental state was inherently altered. For example her belief that she needed to protect her children from the devil was evident as classification of a “positive symptom” of schizophrenia. Specifically known as the psychological term “grandeur” a delusion that she was an overly important person in terms of protecting her children. Further, upon questioning by law enforcement it was noted that she took a long time to respond to questions and seemed distant from reality, yet another sub-class of her mental disorder. In this case, it was a negative effect of her disorder known as the alogia effect, or brief and empty replies to questioning. All related to psychosis and schizophrenia.
Although it was clear that she indeed had succumb to prolonged depression, characteristics of mental disorders and so forth, in terms of the law (specifically in Texas) it would be hard for the defense to claim insanity. In the end, she did indeed receive life in prison however, avoided the death penalty due to embellished evidence presented by the prosecution during the case, and would then be appealed. I found it very interesting that in Texas a juror of peers are the ones who determine whether or not she was coherent to stand trial. Although she indeed was found to be, due to the fact the jail had prescribed medication, none the less I found it daunting.
In terms of how her mental health related to the case the defense lawyer (Dr. Phillip) claimed that she under psychosis thought she was doing the right thing to protect her children from the devil. This connects exactly to what I stated about the symptoms she possessed. As for the defense, it was claimed sense she indeed knew she was “protecting from the devil” and that she knew the “devil was evil” that she knew what she was doing was wrong. Further, sense she told know one what she had done she knew her actions needed to be hidden because “they were wrong.”
Consequently then she was found guilty. (But would lead to appeal). Some media outlets attempted to claim blame on the father as that he knew his wife was ill and continued to have children however this was relatively irrelevant. As a result, this case was interesting as that it directly represented how the defense and prosecution select “experts” and how mental health comes in to play in terms of law. It also relates to the gender questions of law and perceptions of men and women in terms of guilt. Overall it defiantly left an impression and made clear how complex and difficult the insanity case is to prove (in terms of law) and the different ways competency are identified.
What I found in terms of searching online is that as I mentioned before due to incorrect testimony the case would be appealed. Upon searching I learned a jury indeed found her not-guilty by reason of insanity the second time around. This clearly marked the debate of justice, and mental health as that outrage followed after failed prosecution for the children’s death in terms of prison time.
Terms: Competency, insanity, M’Naughten rule, psychosis, stressor, depression, stimulus, postpartum mental disorder, delusions, hallucinations, schizophrenia, positive symptom/negative symptom of schizophrenia, grandeur, alogia symptom of schizophrenia.
www.nbcnews.com/id/.../jury-yates-not-guilty-reason-insanity
usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/.../2006-07-27-yates-verdict_x.htm
www.democraticunderground.com
The case concerning Andrea Yates, the murder of her five children, and question of her competency and sanity has been highly publicized. There is a lot of information available regarding the case, which makes assignments like this all the more interesting. I knew a little bit about this case before reading the chapters in the textbook and Minds on Trial, but there was a lot that I didn’t already know. It sparked some interesting conversations with my roommates and in another of my classes where we have started lecture on competency.
The most important thing to note about the topics this week is the difference between competency and insanity. If one is competent to stand trial, he or she is able to aid the defense in the trial, understand the court processes, and able to participate in the trial based on evaluation. Competency is a measure regarding the defendant's state at the time of the trial. Andrea Yates was found to be competent to stand trial after jury deliberation. This particular jury initially voted that she was incompetent by a vote of 8-4. After continued discussion, they decided that she was competent. At this point, the trial shifted to the matter of her sanity.
The insanity defense works on the idea that the defendant does not have the “moral responsibility and culpability for the crime.” This is a measure of his or her mental state at the time of the crime, that is also determined by evaluation. It is clear that Andrea Yates was suffering postpartum depression and psychosis, loneliness, and anxiety before her action, but did any of these prevent her from knowing that her actions were wrong?
Andrea Yates had made stays in mental health facilities and been prescribed several types of antipsychotic medications in the years leading up to the murder of her children. She had experienced religious delusions following the births of her first two children. She had also attempted suicide. At times, she functioned well, and seemed to be getting along fine, but other times, she told physicians that she was afraid she was going to hurt someone. It seems strange to me that someone who is clearly struggling and aware of her own abilities to cause harm to other people wasn’t receiving more support from her family, psychiatrists, and physicians.
Her trial took place in Texas where the M’Naughten rule (the revised version) was in place. The rule states that in order of someone to be found insane at the time of their crime, he or she must “know the nature or consequences of an act or know that the act was right or wrong.” Texas, however, only the second part of this criteria is used. The defense only had to prove that Andrea Yates knew that killing her children was wrong. The defense testified that she showed signs of psychosis and killed her children in an altruistic manner. She believed that killing them was in their best interest (by saving them from Satan). It was argued that she knew what she did was legally wrong, but thought it was morally acceptable. The prosecution testified that Andrea Yates knew that drowning her children was wrong and illegal because she associated the acts with Satan (therefore, evil). She was found to be guilty and sentenced to serve life in prison.
Shortly after, the defense appealed to the Court of Appeals claiming there was erroneous testimony included in the trial from the psychiatrist brought in by the prosecution. His testimony had a large effect on the jury’s decision, so the defense asked for a retrial. In 2005, the retrial was granted, which is where our chapter leaves off. This is where the first of my extra sources comes in. This is in an article from CNN in 2007 which reports the Andrea Yates was found to be not guilty by reason of insanity in her retrial. Instead of spending the rest of her life in prison, she will most likely spend all of it in a psychiatric hospital.
http://articles.cnn.com/2007-12-11/us/court.archive.yates8_1_russell-rusty-yates-kaylynn-williford-joe-owmby?_s=PM:US
These next links are for more recent articles about Andrea Yates. This first discusses the fact that she is asking the court for the right to leave the hospital at which she stays for two hours a week in order to attend church. In the article, her defense attorney says that he believes she is ready to leave the institution and live on her own. http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/03/28/10910591-andrea-yates-who-killed-her-five-children-will-ask-for-pass-to-attend-church?lite
The second is for an article that talks about her current mental state. Since her trial and retrial. she has been diagnosed with bipolar disorder. In this article, her attorney says that she is doing very well and has taken an active role in raising money for the Yates Children Memorial Fund, which raises money for postpartum illness awareness.http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2012/03/how-andrea-yates-lives-and-lives-with-herself-a-decade-later/254302/
Andrea Yates case contained many psychological characteristics. For starters, Andrea suffered from severe post-partum depression, and had spiritual hallucinations of voices telling her to commit suicide. Andrea had a history of many suicidal attempts such as taking Alzheimer’s pills, holding a knife to her throat and going long periods of time without food or water.
Despite her husband knowing of her poor psychological conditions, she had many change occur in her life such as moving into a trailer, and her husband left her to take care of the kids every day. Also, she continued to have children even after she was already suffering from these psychological problems. This caused her psychological conditions to worsen, which led her to the point of drowning her children.
After Yates’ arrest, clinical psychologist looked more closely at her current psychological state. They did indeed diagnose her with a severe case of post-partum depression. They also found that she had some difficulties concentrating and understanding what was going on. Yates even believed that she deserved the death penalty so it would rid her of her Satan delusions. For much time after the murder she received treatment in many psychological facilities. During this time she was given the M’Naughten Insanity Test to see if she was qualified to use the insanity defense. This test helps to show if the person was insane during the time of the crime. It measures insanity in two different ways which are to know the nature or consequences of the act, and to know that the act was right or wrong.
They decided at first that she was indeed insane at the time of the crime. During the trial they also said that it was “part of a series of patterns” that led up to the event. However, they found that Yates legally knew the act was wrong, but was morally right in her mind. At the end of the trial she was given the penalty of life in prison, but avoided the death penalty. She currently spends most of her time in and out of psychiatric hospitals. However for years to come after the trial, people debated her sanity.
The thing I found interesting that I did not know dealt with the Law and Order episode, where some experts think she got the idea from. The episode was about a woman killing her children and getting off with the insanity defense. I never knew that was a part of the trial, and that she tried again after her first verdict to use that as an excuse for her actions. I read more about it and found that she was an avid Law and Order viewer, but did not get her idea from the show because that episode was not aired until after the murders.
The book did not state this, but she was acquitted for her actions in 2006, on her plead for insanity. The court finally found that she was indeed insane during the time of the crime, and continues to be admitted in psychiatric hospitals.
Another article I read dealt with the insanity jurisdiction laws in Texas, and they talked about how strict and difficult it is to declare insanity. I find this interesting because they make it so hard to declare it, but it may be a good thing in most cases. Then it talked about the second trial, and how they successfully changed her verdict through more witnesses who stated that Yates loved her children, she was just mentally ill.
I knew about this case prior to reading this, but I never really read the full story and knew how they measured her sanity. What she did was a sad thing, but I honestly believe that she was insane.
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/01/08/arts/television/08law.html?ref=andreayates&_r=0
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/MindMoodNews/andrea-yates-released-psychiatric-hospital-attend-church/story?id=16021269
http://www.counterpunch.org/2006/07/28/the-second-andrea-yates-verdict/
For this blog post we were to read about the sad and unfortunate case of Andrea Yates. While her husband was away for work Andrea murdered their five children by drowning them in the bath. This case got a lot of attention from the media, and who could blame them really. I think the same thing pops into everyone’s mind when hearing this, how could anyone drown their children. Some individuals would jump to the conclusion that she is a sick monster. Others would wonder about her psychological health, it takes a certain type of person to commit such horrendous acts. Especially against their own children. There are clear psychological aspects that pertain to this case because Yates was suffering from mental health issues. One of her first run ins with mental heath issues was after the birth of her first son, she began to see visions. With each child that they had Andrea became more and more depressed and lonely. After the birth of their fourth child, Yates attempted to commit suicide by overdosing on some of her father’s medications. A few months after that she was hospitalized again because her husband had the wrestle a knife away from her throat. She was diagnosed with severe depression with psychotic features. At this time she was hearing voices and told the doctors that she was afraid she might hurt someone. This is a clear sign that Andrea Yates was in need of psychological help, hearing voices is a sign of serious mental disturbances such as schizophrenia. It is clear that Andrea Yates had issues in the past with mental health, but the real question is was Yates insane at the time of murder. Or was she aware of what she was doing and knew at the time that her actions were wrong. The way I see it is I do not believe Yates husband would have left her alone with their five children if he thought that she was currently unstable. This leads me to believe that at the time of the unfortunate murders Andrea Yates had an idea of what she was doing and knew that it was wrong. Prior to reading in the text and out of the minds on trial book I did not know much about the Andrea Yates case. I had heard about the case slightly but I had not really known what had happened. So I learned a lot of new information from minds on trial.
One question that kept coming up in my mind was how did the father of the children react to all of this. This would be an incredibly tough circumstance to be put in. On one hand your wife just murdered all of your children, I cannot even fathom the anger and sadness this man was feeling. After reading the link below it gave a slight idea of how Mr. Yates was dealing with all of these problems in a dark point in his life. Oddly enough, Russell Yates was supportive of his wife after the murders and did not blame them on her; he put the blame on her mental illness and the health professionals who ignored the signs. I am surprised by this, in a good way, mental illness takes over who an individual was and transforms them into something they would never want to be.
http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/defense-rests-in-andrea-yates-trial
In this article there were many quotes directly from Andrea Yates that gives us a view on how she saw herself and what drove her, other than mental illness, to murder her five children. One thing that is evident is that she thought she was a bad mother, or more likely the mental illness made her believe she was a bad mother. One quote from the article that shook me a bit was "It was the seventh deadly sin. My children weren't righteous. They stumbled because I was evil. The way I was raising them they could never be saved they were doomed to perish in the fires of hell." Which she had said to her psychologist in jail.
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,218445,00.html
One bit of information I had found interesting that I found in the link below was that had a mental health professional named Park Dietz testify that Yates knew what she was doing was wrong. Apparently he had embellished that truth and used some information that ended up not being true. He claimed that Yates was an avid law and order fan and that in an episode a woman drown her children, thus planting the seed for the murder in Yates head. In the second trial it came up that prior to the murders she had gone for mental health treatment and begged to be hospitalized.
http://www.counterpunch.org/2006/07/28/the-second-andrea-yates-verdict/
The sad truth of the matter is that mental illnesses can trick a person into doing things they would never dream of doing under healthy circumstances. If people had read the warning signs and listened to what Andrea Yates had been saying, the five Yates children could still very well be here to this day.
I’ve done reports on Andrea Yates’ case previously, and I find it very interesting. The way she committed her crime and her actions just intrigue me. I first want to discuss the insanity part of this chapter, and then move on to the competency to stand trial.
Yates’ postpartum mental illness is very interesting. Many women suffer from a mild form of this called postpartum depression, but symptoms such as hallucinations, an extreme change in personality, and self-harm all indicate signs of postpartum psychosis. This, combined with Yates’ previous risk factors (isolation, changes in environment) all led up to a horrific crime. Determining whether or not she committed the crime is the easy part; what’s difficult is determining whether or not she was insane at the time of the crime. The book refers to mens rea, a Roman term generally meaning that the criminal knew the crime they were committing was wrong. The actus reus, the actual criminal act, is already apparent in Yates. However, the jury in this case was trying to decide whether or not she possessed the mens rea.
The book also discusses the M’Naghten rule and how it related to the Texas Court System’s definition of insanity. While the standard rule is composed of three parts, Texas has only adopted the second into their insanity definition. So, in order to prove that Yates was not sane at the time of the crime, the defense had to show that Yates did not know that the crime she was committing was wrong.
Going further, I wanted to quickly discuss the “policeman at the elbow test.” I believe Yates was insane at the time of the crime, and I think this test helps my case. The fact that Yates made no attempt to hide her guilt and even called her husband shows her insanity. The “policeman at the elbow test” suggests that insane criminals would have committed the crime even if a police officer stood next to them. Thinking about it, I think, no matter what, Yates would have found a way to murder her children.
Discussing competency and CST, I agree with the court in their initial belief that she was not competent. This is shown in her irrational acts after the arrest (taking several minutes to respond to officers, having hallucinations in her jail cell), and also the fact that she believed her conviction and execution would kill Satan.
Because of the serious crime Yates was being tried for, the court must also take into account the flexible standard, meaning that criminals being tried for petty crimes are not required to be as sane as criminals facing murder charges, for example. Also, they have to consider many other aspects of Yates’ state of mind, including the fact that she had already been on antipsychotic medication (it was ineffective at stopping the crime) and had been in a psychiatric unit for three months prior to her competency hearing and showed no signs of restoration to CST. All of these points greatly affect Yates’ case, including her CST and her insanity plea.
This link discuss evolutionary psychology and how it affects Andrea Yates’ case. It was interesting to read because I’ve seen first-hand the mother-child relationship of animals in the wild when we had stray cats around our house. If a kitten was sick or dying, the mother instinctively knew not to use up any more of it’s own valuable resources on this offspring, so it would either quit taking care of it, or kill it (sometimes eating it to regain lost resources). Maybe, subconsciously, Yates felt this? Interesting.
http://newfoundlandnews.blogspot.com/2009/09/evolutionary-psychology-of-andrea-yates.html
The link below only briefly talks about Yates, but also brings up a good point: is it ethical to put someone on heavy antidepressants, in order to restore them to competency so they can stand trial and be executed? Something to think about.
http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/criminal_mind/forensics/forensic_psychology/5.html
This last link shows a direct quote by Andrea when she was being interviewed by a forensic psychologist. She states that before she committed this crime, she did not think it was wrong.
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,218445,00.html
I had heard of the Yates’ Case before but I didn’t know many details about it, especially since it happened in 2001 when I was in 5th grade. I was surprised to find out from the chapter that most of the case dealt with Andrea’s mental illness: postpartum depression as a result of her births. This illness is the most obvious psychologically relevant characteristic evident in her case. Andrea’s illness can be related to clinical psychology and biopsychology. It was found out later that Andrea’s depression wasn’t new; it had been going on for multiple years. Andrea had a history of suicide attempts and delusions. In addition, she had seen multiple psychiatrists/psychologists, been instituted more than once, and tried many different antidepressant medications. Supposedly she didn’t want any more children, but Rusty pushed her to keep giving birth to more. It was also noted that their home wasn’t in the best condition. In addition, the chapter discussed the recent sickness/death of her father that may have aided in her “snap.” Something I found interesting was how “lonely” Andrea claimed to be; however, we know that the children were home the majority of the time because they were home schooled. Thus, physically, she couldn’t have been lonely. The chapter also talked gave an excerpt from Dietz who discussed Andrea’s illusions of Satan. I thought his argument was actually pretty logical in that she knew what she was doing was evil because she associated Satan with evil and God with good. From a social psychological standpoint, we can see that maybe the religious attitudes Andrea had were a result of persuasion/brainwashing.
I also found the discussion at the end of the MOT chapter regarding gender differences quite interesting. It’s a surprising thought to believe that when it comes to women, we are more likely to treat their crimes as a result of a biological issue that is out of their control. The chapter made a good point and mentioned that if the tables were turned and it were Rusty who had killed the children, society wouldn’t be so understanding and empathetic and his crimes wouldn’t be seen as a result of a biological factor out of his control. We can relate this issue to social psychology, specifically the issue of gender differences. Boys and girls from a very young age are treated differently by society and have different expectations.
I searched Andrea Yates on google and found 3 articles containing information I didn’t know. The first article, http://crime.about.com/od/current/p/andreayates.htm, mentioned that Andrea had a miscarriage in 1996. This is very relevant psychologically speaking because it could have easily been one of the factors that led to her mental illness. In addition, the article mentioned that Andrea had stopped exercising (jogging/swimming) once she became pregnant with her second child. From research in the area of health psychology, we know that exercise can be a buffer to negative feelings and depression. This ceasing of daily exercise may have also aided in the worsening of Andrea’s postpartum depression.
The second article I read, http://www.oprah.com/omagazine/Andrea-Yates-A-Cry-in-the-Dark/3, contained much of the information that I had already read, but it did mention that a few weeks before one of Andrea’s suicide attempts with a knife, she had seen a doctor who noted that she was at risk of harming herself. The doctor also noted that Andrea had to be discharged from the institution she was currently at for insurance reasons. It’s sickening to believe that insurance problems are many reasons why mentally ill patients don’t’ get the proper care or medication they need. We can’t go so far as to say that if it weren’t for the insurance problems, Andrea Yates wouldn’t have murdered her children; but we can say if she had been instituted longer and gotten treatment longer, the turnout might’ve been different.
The final article I read, http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,218445-2,00.html, mentioned statements given by Dietz about Andrea’s psychosis worsening the day after the drowning. He states that her delusions and sickness conveniently got worse the next day. This goes along with our textbook’s discussion on malingering. It was also interesting to read a statement by Dietz where he says: "I would expect her to try and comfort the children, telling them they are going to be with Jesus or with God, but she does not offer words of comfort to the children." Dietz claims Andrea’s actions speak louder than her words that she killed them in their best interest so they would not burn in hell. This is psychologically relevant because of the concept of malingering and also because if Dietz is correct, then the insanity defense doesn’t work at all!
There was a lot of very interesting psychological characteristics associated with Andrea Yates and her trial. I did not know about all of the mental problems she had before she murdered her children. I just thought all of her problems occured briefly before murdering her children. It is easy to suspect that someone must not be in their right mind if they are able to kill all five of their children. I also think the fact that she thought she was doing her children a favor by killing them shows her psychological issues.
This book talks about how Andrea Yates suffered from post partum depression. She had been going through a lot of stress including her four children and the struggles of caring for her father suffering from Alzheimer's. These stressors caused Yates to dip into a state of severe depression with psychotic characteristics which enabled her to experience delusions.
Yates tried to kill herself two times. The first time she attempted suicide she used her fathers medications to try and overdose. This attempt resulted in her staying at a mental facility to provide her with treatments. After she was released from the facility she was enrolled in a program which enabled her to undergo vigorous mental therapy sessions at the hospital in the day, and be home with her family at night. The second time she tried to kill herself was when she held a knife to her own throat, because she feared she would do harm to others.
Her attempts for suicide should have been a big warning to her husband that she should not be able to take care of their four children alone. It is strange that after all of these psychological issues she was able to keep caring for her children and so often left alone with them. It is also strange to me that even though she was going through all of these hard times her husband still had another child with her. I would have thought that while someone is suffering from so many problems especially psychotic symptoms that were going along with her severe depression.
There was also a lot of interesting information about her trial in this chapter. Her trial was a long difficult process. Her defense tried to get her the insanity plea and at first she was found guilty of her crimes. She was granted a re-trial do to the witness Dietz' testimony that provided false information about a Law and Order episode that never existed. The re-trial granted Yates to be transferred to a mental institution.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrea_Yates#Anti-depressants_and_homicidal_ideation
Under the heading: Anti-depressants and homicidal ideation
This section of the web-site talked about how the combination of the anti-depressants Yates was prescribed by Dr. Saeed could have been responsible for her violent behavior and psychosis.
http://crime.about.com/od/current/p/andreayates.htm
This site talked about how the doctors had urged the Yates family not to have any more children, but Rusty wanted another child, and after Andrea had begun to become less depressed she stopped taking her anti-depressant and had another child. It also talked about how the death of her father played a huge role in the last of her severely depressed times. It appears that this time was the worst because she refused liquids, refused help, and read the Bible non stop. I think this psychotic period should have been a good indication to have her in a treatment facility long enough for her to fight off her depression, but instead she was released because she was not seen as suffering from any mental illnesses. Two days after a checkup is when she killed her children.
http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/notorious_murders/women/andrea_yates/index.html
I thought this site was interesting because it went into full detail of the day Andrea Yates murdered her five children. It explained that when the police showed up she did not hesitate to tell them that she had killed her children and that she was a bad mother and expected to be punished. I think it is frightening to think that someone could have done such a horrible thing.
The Andrea Yates chapter of the book is extremely interesting and completely connected to chapters eight and nine from the textbook. One of the major concerns around the case was Yate’s postpartum depression and the frequency of child births she had in such a short period of time, which would cause an emotional, physical, and mental toll on almost anyone. Yates had been suffering from that postpartum depression for years and suffering from psychosis as well, she took antidepressant medication daily. After Yate’s drowned all of her children the story became national news and it was brought to the attention of the legal system and the public that Andrea had begun a marked decline into severe mental illness two years before committing the horrific crime. There were also extremely large changes that happened within the family; Andrea had more children while her husband insisted on uprooting the family and moving them around. This probably affected Yates because she had no consistency and no solid environment for herself or her children, it continued to negatively affect her spiral into a deeper depression.
Andrea Yates had to care for her father who suffered from Alzheimer’s disease which is a monumental task for anyone, let alone someone who had four young children at the time. Yates attempted suicide in 1999 by overdosing on her father’s medication; she was hospitalized and diagnosed with severe depression. The physician who treated her during this time testified during her trial that she was severely mentally ill. Only a few months later she was hospitalized again after her husband had to wrestle away a knife that she had to her throat, she was then diagnosed as being severely depressed with psychotic features. She was hearing voices and doctors wondered if she might be suffering from schizophrenia. It was recommended that she and her husband not have any more children, but they did and she gave birth in November of 2000. Her father also passed away months later in March 2001. These are a wide range of emotions and stressors happening to someone with a history of severe depression, psychosis, and postpartum depression.
A clinical psychologist evaluated her as psychotic after her arrest. A psychologist from the prosecution found that she did not show signs of faking her illnesses. Over the course of jury deliberations a jury found Yates competent to stand trial. At this time the Texas standard for insanity was extremely narrow and hard to meet, it was a revised M’Naughten test, which was heavily discussed in our text book. In Texas the only determination for Yates to be found insane or not was if she knew that drowning her children was wrong. Both the prosecution and the defense agreed that Yates was mentally ill and it had been documented prior to the crime. During the trial the defenses suggested acute psychosis, that Yates had no rational motive for committing the crimes and that she believed she was serving their best interests. The defense continued with this by saying that Yate’s delusions made her believe that she had to kill her children to save them from Satan. The prosecution’s expert testified that Yates did know that her actions were wrong, in the eyes of the law, society, and God. After only three and a half hours of deliberating the jury in the case found Andrea Yates guilty and she faced being sentenced to life in prison or death.
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/6794098/ - this NCB article discusses how Yate’s murder conviction was thrown out because of the erroneous testimony by psychiatrist Dietz. Dietz was discussed in the book and how he falsely stated information about a Law & Order episode of a woman drowning her children. This made some people believe that the jury used this information to say that Yates got the idea to murder her children from the show, when in reality the show was never aired. The 1st District Court of Appeals ordered that Yates was enitled to a new trial.
http://www.chron.com/news/article/Jury-finds-Yates-insane-not-guilty-1857308.php
This article explains the appealed, new trail for Andrea Yates. She was found not guilty by reason of insanity, NGRI. We read about this in the text book quite a lot. Yates would then be sent to a state mental hospital for treatment instead of being sentenced to life in prison. The mental hospital will be maximum security. Andrea’s husband repeatedly said that she was psychotic and was glad that the jury decided that way.
http://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/article/Andrea-Yates-seeks-weekly-release-from-mental-3439312.php
This article discusses Andrea Yate’s today and her defense attorney’s feel she is ready to begin rejoining society on an outpatient level. Yate’s doctors were going to file a letter asking the state district court for her to be able to leave the hospital for two hours weekly for church services. Her attorney’s continued to say that they feel this will be the first step in Yates being able to leave state care for good. The hospital must first consider her possible risk to the community before recommending her a pass for two hours a week and then for more possible freedom.
Before reading Andrea Yates’ case, I wasn’t aware of what happened. I was pretty young when this trial went on and my parents probably didn’t want me to hear about it because it is rather scary for a young kid to hear how a parent drowned their children.
Before I talk about the psychological characteristics, I want to talk about some of the things that I think had an effect on the later mental illness’ Andrea faced. The Yates family led an interesting life. First, after Andrea’s husband Russell got a job in Florida for NASA the family had to move. Following that move Russell decided he wanted to see what it would be like to live on the road, so the family leased their house in Texas, for a trailer, and lived on the road. After Russell finished his work they continued to live in their trailer, back in a trailer park in Texas. That’s not all though, they then bought an old GMC bus that their friends the Woronieckis’s used to own and transformed it into a mobile home. Andrea continued throughout this time living in a mobile home, taking care of children, while also feeling very lonely and depressed. To think this would be a dramatic change for someone who didn’t have multiple kids and suffered from postpartum depression, I can’t imagine how you would do it with those characteristics.
Now, to go onto talk about some of the psychological characteristics, Andrea suffered from a postpartum mental disorder, the onset of this mental disorder resulted after the birth of her first son Noah. Andrea was in and out of the hospital for attempted suicide multiple times. She also had very strong hallucinations and voices in her head. Andrea believed that Satan was out for you children, and the reason for killing her children was so that they could go to heaven instead of burn in hell with Satan. This was probably the characteristic that had the most impact on deciding whether or not Andrea Yates was insane. Many claimed since she knew that she wanted to save her kids from Satan, that she ultimately knew that what she was doing was wrong, but she had no choice. Another aspect of the trial that had a large impact on whether or not Andrea was to be ruled insane was what came from the cross examination from Dr. Park Dietz who is a forensic psychiatrist. He worked with the production of the show Law and Order and claimed they had a show recently air that was about a mother who drowned her kids in the bathtub and was hoping to receive the insanity plea. This affected the jury and everyone else’s view that Andrea drowned her kids in hopes that this way she would receive the insanity plea. It just so happens that no show ever took place on Law and Order at all, affecting Andrea’s trial quite a bit.
The following are three things that I found through the internet about Andrea’s case that I didn’t know after reading what was available in the book.
First, I found out that Andrea also took on the job of homeschooling her children as well. So on top of all that she was dealing with she also had to take the responsibility of teaching them during the days as well. This might be another factor that could have been looked at in the trial
http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/notorious_murders/women/andrea_yates/index.html
Second, I learned that when Andrea confessed to the murder of her children she said it was because she had failed to them as a mother, she didn’t mention at that time the real reasons in her head for killing the children.
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,218445,00.html
Lastly, something else I learned was that after the crime Russell Yates went on to try and divorce her same time the crime was going on.I feel like this probably had an impact on the trial as well. He also had consistent views against the death penalty before Andrea had committed the crime as well.
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/08/03/us/divorce-is-sought-in-drowning-case.html?ref=andreayates
The Andrea Yates chapter had a lot to do with psychology and her mental health. Andrea wad delusional and was hear voices and seeing people that were not actually there that told her to do things. She experienced hearing Satan and she had a strong religion infatuation. She had been hospitalized twice for attempting to commit suicide. Doctor’s think that she was going through a hard time because of events in her life such as; her dad having Alzheimer’s and eventually dying, her isolation at home which led to her feeling very lonely, and having that many children within a short period of time. She definitely suffered from postpartum depression. Yates was on antipsychotics and antidepressants to help the symptoms she was experiencing subside, but some would argue that she was also somewhat schizophrenic. The main question was could she plead insane? Did she know that she was drowning her five children and what the repercussions of it would be? Obviously Yates had a lot of mental illnesses, but many believe that she was not insane and that she knew that she was drowning her children and it was wrong.
Whether Andrea was sane or insane is a very controversial topic. Some believe that she knew what she was doing and knew that it was harmful and the repercussions would not be good. Others say that they think she thought that she was doing what was best for her children, and it was all for the benefit of them and not to harm them. In the eyes of the law it was wrong and that she blamed Satan because she knew otherwise that she would be charged with murder.
http://crime.about.com/od/current/p/andreayates.htm
Andrea, her husband, and her children were living in a renovated bus as their permanent home. Her first suicide attempt she was chewing on her fingers, and was taking an overdose of pills. She was diagnosed with major depressive disorder and prescribed antidepressants. Andrea did not take her medication and she proceeded to not feed her children because she believed that they were eating too much, and she also thought people on TV were talking to her and cameras were in the ceiling watching her. Andrea and her husband did not tell her psychiatrist of these hallucinations and she even put a knife to her neck to beg her husband to let her die. They finally moved out of the bus and into a nice home in a great neighborhood, things were looking up for her and she returned to normal activities. She then digressed again after the death of her father and then she drowned her children claiming they, “were not developing properly, and she needed to be punished.”
http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2012/03/how-andrea-yates-lives-and-lives-with-herself-a-decade-later/254302/
Andrea’s attorney sees her about once a month, and his wife even transports her mother to see Andrea. She is located at Kerrville State Hospital where she gets her treatments through injections. Andrea donates to her children’s memorial fund and this fund scans potential mothers for postpartum depression, people talk about depression now more than they did then. Andrea still keeps in touch with the father of her children Russell Yates.
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/03/28/10910591-andrea-yates-who-killed-her-five-children-will-ask-for-pass-to-attend-church?lite
After ten years Andrea’s trial was overturned and she was found not guilty by the insanity defense. Now she wants to get a release from the hospital for 2 hours a week to attend church. She wants to go to a normal church and not one like she attended before with the preacher that told her and her husband to give up everything they had to live in a bus. Her and her ex-husband Rusty still talk, they exchange emails around once a week and talk on the phone once a month. He now has a kid and a new wife and Andrea seems happy for him.
The Andrea Yates case was a very interesting case to read about. What made it interesting was the fact that it was about a women who killed five of her kids. The reason that I find this so interesting is the fact that I could never imagine killing someone. The fact that she killed five kids is just astonishing. What also makes it an interesting case to read about is the fact that it has to deal with insanity. Insanity was the argument that the defense made in order to avoid the death penalty. This case was heavily publicized because of the fact that people couldn’t imagine holding their own child under water until they couldn’t breathe anymore. Andrea Yates had multiple characteristics that were present during the time before and after she murdered her five children. The first of these psychological signs was the fact that she was taking medication for severe mental depression. Andrea Yates had attempted to commit suicide before and was placed on the medications to deal with her problems. The depression that she had was called postpartum depression. Another indication that she might have something mentally wrong with her was the fact that her husband had to admit her into a hospital after she had tried to slit her own throat with a knife. Medical personal at the hospital claimed that she had psychotic features. What they meant by psychotic features was the fact that she was hearing voices and she had concerns that she might hurt somebody. After she was taken into custody for killing her five children, the defenses clinical psychologist examined her and found that she was experiencing hallucinations where she saw Satan on the walls of her jail cell. The examiner also saw that it took her up to two minutes to respond to simple questions that he had about the case. Also, the prosecutions clinical psychologist examined her and found that it also took her a long time to answer questions and she had problems with concentration. The thing that both the defense and prosecutions clinical psychologists agreed on was the fact that Andrea Yates wasn’t faking her illness. In the months before the trial, she had been treated for psychosis. Another aspect that showed Andrea Yates might have a psychological problem was the fact that she believed that if she was sentenced to death, she would be able to kill Satan. She also claimed that the reason that she killed her five children was to save them from the horrible fate of dying and going to hell. Another thing that kind of led me to the conclusion that Andrea Yates was mentally insane was the fact that she had attempted to commit suicide multiple times. During one attempt, she actually tried to slice her throat; which I don’t think is a popular way to commit suicide. The final thing that led me to believe that Andrea Yates had psychological problem was the fact that she was diagnosed with postpartum mental disorder. This includes severe mood changes and psychosis which occur within four weeks following the birth of a child. Andrea Yates and her husband had five children in the matter of seven years. Also, the fact that she had written letters to people saying that she had become more isolated, lonely, and severely depressed after her family moved into the converted bus. How these characteristics relate to competence and sanity is the fact that all of these effects whether or not she actually knew what she was doing were wrong. I can’t imagine holding someone underwater until they drowned. However, in the case of Andrea Yates, it was known that she had mental problems, she had tried to commit suicide multiple times before, and she had been on medication to try and stop these problems. The fact that both the defense and prosecution attorneys agreed that she was mentally ill probably had something to do with the outcome of the case. Another thing that was important about her mental characteristics was the fact that they led the court to test whether or not she was actually insane. As well as whether or not she knew the act she was doing was wrong at the time of the killing. This was something that I found very interesting because Texas, unlike the other states, to be proven not guilty based on insanity, you must be able to prove that the individual knew that the act that he/she were committing was wrong. The characteristics, as well as her past of mental issues played a vital role in her case. The reason that it played a vital role is because of the fact that insanity doesn’t just develop overnight, if the person all of a sudden is pleading the insanity plea and has no history of mental issues, they are probably competent to stand trial. However, when the person has had a history of mental depression, has been put on medication, and had tried to commit suicide and is hearing voices from Satan, they are probably not suitable to stand trial. Some of the interesting information that I found on the internet was that Andrea Yates had actually shown signs of improvement after the family moved into a bigger home (instead of living in the cramped bus). She went back to swimming and running as well as other hobbies that she used to do before they moved into the bus. The reason that this is important to note is that maybe the murder was in part caused by the husband driving making her live in the bus. Also, it goes along with the speculation that maybe the reason that she was so unhappy was the fact that she was always pregnant. Another interesting fact that I found was the fact that because of the expert testimony of Park Dietz, expert testimony itself has been called into question. During the Trial Park Dietz said that Law and Order had recently aired a show that showed a mother killing her children in the bathtub. The prosecution argued that Yates had gotten the idea to kill her children by watching this show. This actually turned out to be not true and the defense won an appeal on the guilty verdict. However, it does bring into question the use of expert testimony in cases that were life and death literally hang in the balance. It was also interesting that it also brought into light that no matter how qualified a person might seem, he/she can still make mistakes. The final interesting fact that I found about the case was the fact Andrea Yates husband was really conservative. He supported the death penalty based off of Romans 13 which talks about how it is god’s will that the people on earth carry out his commands and kill murderers. The reason that this was interesting was that after his wife had done what she did, he was now against the death penalty. It was just another interesting fact that I found.
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,218445,00.html
This one talks about the husband
http://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(06)69789-4/fulltext
This one talks about expert testimony.
http://crime.about.com/od/current/p/andreayates.htm
This one talks about how she almost returned to her normal self after the family moved into a bigger home.
The Andrea Yates case was a very interesting case to read about. What made it interesting was the fact that it was about a women who killed five of her kids. The reason that I find this so interesting is the fact that I could never imagine killing someone. The fact that she killed five kids is just astonishing. What also makes it an interesting case to read about is the fact that it has to deal with insanity. Insanity was the argument that the defense made in order to avoid the death penalty. This case was heavily publicized because of the fact that people couldn’t imagine holding their own child under water until they couldn’t breathe anymore. Andrea Yates had multiple characteristics that were present during the time before and after she murdered her five children. The first of these psychological signs was the fact that she was taking medication for severe mental depression. Andrea Yates had attempted to commit suicide before and was placed on the medications to deal with her problems. The depression that she had was called postpartum depression. Another indication that she might have something mentally wrong with her was the fact that her husband had to admit her into a hospital after she had tried to slit her own throat with a knife. Medical personal at the hospital claimed that she had psychotic features. What they meant by psychotic features was the fact that she was hearing voices and she had concerns that she might hurt somebody. After she was taken into custody for killing her five children, the defenses clinical psychologist examined her and found that she was experiencing hallucinations where she saw Satan on the walls of her jail cell. The examiner also saw that it took her up to two minutes to respond to simple questions that he had about the case. Also, the prosecutions clinical psychologist examined her and found that it also took her a long time to answer questions and she had problems with concentration. The thing that both the defense and prosecutions clinical psychologists agreed on was the fact that Andrea Yates wasn’t faking her illness. In the months before the trial, she had been treated for psychosis. Another aspect that showed Andrea Yates might have a psychological problem was the fact that she believed that if she was sentenced to death, she would be able to kill Satan. She also claimed that the reason that she killed her five children was to save them from the horrible fate of dying and going to hell. Another thing that kind of led me to the conclusion that Andrea Yates was mentally insane was the fact that she had attempted to commit suicide multiple times. During one attempt, she actually tried to slice her throat; which I don’t think is a popular way to commit suicide. The final thing that led me to believe that Andrea Yates had psychological problem was the fact that she was diagnosed with postpartum mental disorder. This includes severe mood changes and psychosis which occur within four weeks following the birth of a child. Andrea Yates and her husband had five children in the matter of seven years. Also, the fact that she had written letters to people saying that she had become more isolated, lonely, and severely depressed after her family moved into the converted bus. How these characteristics relate to competence and sanity is the fact that all of these effects whether or not she actually knew what she was doing were wrong. I can’t imagine holding someone underwater until they drowned. However, in the case of Andrea Yates, it was known that she had mental problems, she had tried to commit suicide multiple times before, and she had been on medication to try and stop these problems. The fact that both the defense and prosecution attorneys agreed that she was mentally ill probably had something to do with the outcome of the case. Another thing that was important about her mental characteristics was the fact that they led the court to test whether or not she was actually insane. As well as whether or not she knew the act she was doing was wrong at the time of the killing. This was something that I found very interesting because Texas, unlike the other states, to be proven not guilty based on insanity, you must be able to prove that the individual knew that the act that he/she were committing was wrong. The characteristics, as well as her past of mental issues played a vital role in her case. The reason that it played a vital role is because of the fact that insanity doesn’t just develop overnight, if the person all of a sudden is pleading the insanity plea and has no history of mental issues, they are probably competent to stand trial. However, when the person has had a history of mental depression, has been put on medication, and had tried to commit suicide and is hearing voices from Satan, they are probably not suitable to stand trial. Some of the interesting information that I found on the internet was that Andrea Yates had actually shown signs of improvement after the family moved into a bigger home (instead of living in the cramped bus). She went back to swimming and running as well as other hobbies that she used to do before they moved into the bus. The reason that this is important to note is that maybe the murder was in part caused by the husband driving making her live in the bus. Also, it goes along with the speculation that maybe the reason that she was so unhappy was the fact that she was always pregnant. Another interesting fact that I found was the fact that because of the expert testimony of Park Dietz, expert testimony itself has been called into question. During the Trial Park Dietz said that Law and Order had recently aired a show that showed a mother killing her children in the bathtub. The prosecution argued that Yates had gotten the idea to kill her children by watching this show. This actually turned out to be not true and the defense won an appeal on the guilty verdict. However, it does bring into question the use of expert testimony in cases that were life and death literally hang in the balance. It was also interesting that it also brought into light that no matter how qualified a person might seem, he/she can still make mistakes. The final interesting fact that I found about the case was the fact Andrea Yates husband was really conservative. He supported the death penalty based off of Romans 13 which talks about how it is god’s will that the people on earth carry out his commands and kill murderers. The reason that this was interesting was that after his wife had done what she did, he was now against the death penalty. It was just another interesting fact that I found.
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,218445,00.html
http://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(06)69789-4/fulltext
http://crime.about.com/od/current/p/andreayates.htm
Chapter nine in the text and chapter nineteen in the “Minds on Trial” book, explain the case of Andrea Yates. While her husband was away, Yates drowned her five children in the bathroom. Her case has been studied throughout the years for many are confused as to why a mother would drown her children. According to Mrs. Yates, she was having visions from the devil and that the only way she could save her children from the burning fires of hell would be to kill them herself so in turn she may die and slay the devil herself. Upon hearing this, her attorneys decided to defend Mrs. Yates by raising the insanity defense. Thus, the debate determining Yates sanity began.
There were two psychologists who had debated this fact both on opposite sides. Dr. Phillip Resnick was the expert for the defense. According to Resnick “Yates did not kill her children out of feelings of revenge against her husband and there was no evidence that the deaths of the children were the result of a pattern of abuse or neglect. Rather, the evidence indicated that there was no rational motive for the drownings, suggesting acute psychosis, and that Yates believed by killing her children she was serving their best interests, indicating an altruistic motive. On the other hand, Dr. Park Dietz, the prosecution’s expert, exclaimed “Mrs. Yates knew that her actions were wrong in the eyes of the law… in the eyes of society… in the eyes of God… believing that the ends justified the means, which was to wrongly and illegally kill them.” Both of these psychologists touch on the fact of Yates seeing the devil and having knowledge of her hallucinations. I believe if one is truly having hallucinations of any kind that they would have some sort of psychological problem and should seek medical help. Even though Yates received help, she was not getting the treatment she needed and when stressors were added to her life, she “snapped” and was “unable to control her impulses.”
Some articles I have found also discuss the debate on Andrea Yates. The first two articles discuss the fact that Dr. Dietz presented false evidence to court and in consequence sending Mrs. Yates to prison. This evidence Dietz brought to the court was “an episode” of Law & Order where a mother drowned her children and was found not guilty do to insanity. This episode, however, was never aired and according to the director, never discussed. Yates’ attorneys brought this up to the court and demanded a retrial, for his testimony gave many of the jurors the impression that she had possibly planned on killing her children; when in fact, according to her attorneys, she was believed to be not entirely sane at the time. The last article explains who a jury, containing six men and six women, found Yates NOT GUILTY of murder by reason of insanity. According to the article, Rusty Yates, Andrea Yates’ husband, said “The jury looked past what happened and at why it happened. Prosecutors had the truth of the first day and stopped there. Yes, she was psychotic. That's the whole truth.”
The Articles:
1. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,143508,00.html
2. http://www.nbcnews.com/id/6794098/#.UUEx3Rykp1c
3. http://crime.about.com/b/2006/07/26/andrea-yates-not-guilty-by-reason-of-insanity.htm
What psychological characteristics were evident in Andrea Yates' case? Describe those characteristics and how they related to her competence/sanity.
Google around and find out 3 things you didn't know about her case and describe that information. Include your links at the bottom of the post.
The Andrea Yates case had many psychological and legal aspects connected to it. First and foremost Andrea Yates obviously suffered from one or more mental illnesses. She was treated as having post partum depression after she became extremely depressed after having her first child. She suffered from psychotic episodes, and one example of this is her vision of seeing a knife, which in turn changes to a vision of someone being stabbed by the knife. After Yates attempted to commit suicide by swallowing her father’s prescriptions, she was diagnosed as severely depressed. Finally after seeing many psychiatrists and being on many different prescriptions there was also the question of whether Yates was schizophrenic. These mental illnesses played a role in whether or not Yates could be known as legally insane.
Like Chapter 8 stated, for one to be labeled legally insane, it has to be proven they did not know at the time of the crime that what they were doing was wrong. This is different from being labeled as incompetent to stand trial. Yates was also evaluated to see if she was incompetent to stand trial, but it was found that she did understand what was going on during the time of the trial.
Something that is also related to psychology was the discussion at the end of the chapter about gender differences. The book stated more women compared to men get the insanity plea, and it is found to be more acceptable for women than for men. It was also stated that the public was somewhat understanding of Yates’ condition, and were even stated to have said that the wrong parent was being prosecuted. I believe this happens because with the gender bias, people look more at women as being harmless and are more sympathetic towards them, while they look at men as being more physical and aggressive and less sympathy is attached towards them.
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/07/22/us/national-briefing-south-texas-mother-who-killed-is-refusing-food.html?ref=andreayates
This link and in others, I learned that Yates had to be taken to a hospital because she was denying food and water. She was then fed through a tube and treated for dehydration. The article also said she was suffering from delusions as she still believed her children were alive.
http://www.nytimes.com/2002/03/15/us/friends-and-family-ask-jury-to-spare-texas-mother-s-life.html?ref=andreayates
I found this link interesting because when you hear about murder cases, all the people who are against the criminal and all the bad things about them are only publicized, but this article showed all the different people who supported Yates and didn’t think she should be given the death penalty.
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/MindMoodNews/andrea-yates-released-psychiatric-hospital-attend-church/story?id=16021269&page=2
This link was an article that talked about the possibility that Yates may be able to go to Sunday services for 2 hours each week. I found it interesting that one doctor was noted as saying that in two past cases where women killed their children because of religious delusions there was the fact that one woman wanted to continue to go to church to cope with it while the other said she didn’t want to be put back in the situation again.
There were several things that stuck out to me from the Andrea Yates case, especially after reading the two chapters for Tuesday. First of all, it is very surprising to learn how long she suffered from mental illness. Right after her first child was born in the mid 90's she began suffering from post-par tum depression and having disturbing visions in her mind. I learned the actual characteristics that diagnose post-par tum disorders including mood fluctuations especially. It is also very surprising to learn that although she was already suffering from mental illness, Andrea kept having children, 4 more to be exact, with the encouragement of her husband. Despite Andrea's instability in her mental health, the family also veered from a traditional lifestyle by living in a tiny mobile home. This probably only added to Andrea's stress, as she felt very lonely and depressed. There were many times that Andrea had to be hospitalized for her mental illness because she was beginning to hallucinate and wouldn't drink fluids or eat. She attempted suicide twice, and was participating in ongoing therapy with a psychiatrist. With all of these factors in the mix, and even when given the advice to not have any more children by her psychiatrist, Andrea conceived one more. It seems that this child pushed her depression to the breaking point, and only 6 months later Andrea murdered her 5 children. There are many questions as to why she did it, including getting back at her husband as a big one. Many people would agree that Andrea's husband, Russell, should have shown much more caution with Andrea around the children. Although he knew she had these mental illnesses, he kept pushing for more children and gave her an unstable lifestyle by selling their home and moving them into a small bus. As the trial got underway, there were different things that were tested for: Andrea's competency to stand trial and whether or not she could plea as insane. After expert opinion and analysis of her behavior, Andrea was found competent to stand trial. It was a toss up at first, but after more deliberation the jury came to this conclusion. Andrea would say things like that Satan made her kill her children, and she associated Satan with being bad. Next, Andrea's sanity had to be decided. I learned that Texas has a very low threshold for being sane enough to receive the consequences for one's actions. This is due to the John Hinckley Jr. case studied in chapter 9. Expert opinion was heavily relied on in this case. When an expert gives their opinion, their credentials and experience are heavily weighed out in trial. One of these experts, Dr. Dietz, attributed some of his experience to consulting for Law and Order. He also said that there was an episode almost identical to what Andrea Yates did that he helped consult with. This opened a whole new can of worms, as the prosecutor ran with this and made the jury believe that Andrea got the idea to kill her children from this episode as well as the idea to act insane. In the end, she did get sentenced to life in prison, but her lawyers were working hard to get a mistrial because of the comment Dr. Dietz made in his statement, as in further investigation an episode of Law and Order was never produced as he claimed. Surprisingly enough, there is still the possibility of a retrial for Andrea Yates.
http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2012/03/how-andrea-yates-lives-and-lives-with-herself-a-decade-later/254302/
I wanted to find out the status of Andrea today and found an article from ten years after she was convicted of the murder, written in 2012. It was from her attorney's point of view, and he said she was doing rather well in the attempt to become a functioning member of society. She will make things in her spare time to donate to the fund that is in her childrens' names. The fund is meant to help women who suffer from post-par tum depression get the help they need. Andrea also remains in contact with Russell Yates.
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=6278872&page=1
I next wanted to see how Russell "Rusty" Yates' life ended up being and found an interview from Good Morning America in 2008. It said that he remarried in 2006 and even has a son. He still keeps in touch with Andrea on a weekly basis, and they will discuss the past and their children. He said that his new child has helped him through the grieving process, as each time a new milestone is reached he remembers his other children.
http://www.religionnewsblog.com/22509/michael-woroniecki
Lastly, I wanted to find out more about the Woronieckis, who were mentioned in the chapter as evangelists who had kept in touch with Andrea and inspired her spiritually. I found a few places online stating that they were extremists of religion. They travel around, while still living in a trailer, with all of their children, all being very blunt and abrasive with their religious beliefs on others.
Chapter 19 talks about the case dealing with Andrea Yates. Andrea Yates murdered her 5 children via drowning them in a bathtub. Her defense in the murders was that she was insane at the time of the murders and so therefor she pled insanity.
Andrea Yates it would seem had many psychological problems. She had Postpartum depression and delusions. Meaning that following each birth of her children her mental state would decline, and since she had 5 children in aprox. 7 years, as well as other issues, she very quickly fell into very bad depression. Twice she attempted to commit suicide, and was instated into a psychiatrist hospitial on more than one occasion.
Andrea Yates as part of her post partum depression also had delusions and hallucinations. After her first child she had a vision of a knife and of stabbing. It doesn’t state if she had any more visions similar to this after each birth however she did have visions and hallucinations involving Satan and what she did to her children can directly be accounted for those visions. During her relationship with her husband she became very religious and followed a very strict religion as far as most religions go. As the book put it, it was a lot of “fire and brimstone” meaning it was very strict in its views on the bible and on heaven and hell. Because of these revelations that she had she eventually came to believe that satan gave her the idea to kill her kids in some attempt to kill him. Also she believed that she was evil and that she had failed her kids therefore killing them was the best thing she could do for them.
One thing I didn’t understand is that in the state of Texas the only way you can be insane at the time of the crime is if you didn’t understand the concept of right and wrong at the time of the crime. Upon questioning it is shown that she knew that other people would view what she had done was bad, which makes me wonder how she eventually got the insanity plea since she understood that, but she believed that her purpose was higher than that of right and wrong. She knew it was wrong in the eyes of the law, and god. Ill come back to this later with another article that I found though
Now with the first case the main reason the jury found her guilty of murder was because of false evidence given by a Dr. Dietz. Dr. Dietz testified that there was a Law and Order episode following the exact situation that Yates had committed and that was the motive or way she had premeditated the murders. However no such episode aired on Law and Order nor had there ever been a script written for said episode. This information eventually made it so Yates got an appeal(after being denied once). From another website I learned that she did eventually get the insanity plea verdict.
Now one thing the book talks about and I find very interesting is the relationship between this insanity plea and how it is different depending on if you are male and female. It would seem that most people have more sympathy for females in most situations than males. Granted it is proven that more males commit crimes especially violent ones than females, but even so, females are given a lot more leeway and sympathy than guys. This is actually true in more than just law situations. The military does it too, hence, why up until now females were not able to be in combat arms due to the negative stigma of a female dying in combat. It is not well received by the media when females(our damsels in distress) get in to trouble. A lot of people will automatically look for outer stimulus that weren’t in the control of the females. In the case of Andrea Yates a lot of people blamed the husband for being too controlling, not paying attention to her medication and the advice of the psychiatrists over Yates, and forcing too many children on her even with her post partum depression. On the other side guys are not as held as sympathetically and they are believed that the circumstances that involve the crime were inside the hands of the male the entire time and they could control the outcome while females cannot always. Its an interesting debate.
Now as I just stated Yates had multiple things wrong with her psychologically. It was well documented that she had post partum depression that would lead into hallucinations and some people believed she had schizophrenia( I say believed as I remember reading it but cant remember if it was actually diagnosed as such) due to her delusions and hallucinations. It is quite common for Schiz. Patients to have hallucinations (audible or visual) and they have delusions of grandeur, which in Yates case she was said to have believed she was doing this all for a higher purpose as well as wanting to kill Satan which most people would agree is beyond and normal persons capabilities if you are religious.
Now im going to go into the 3 websites that I found, 1 of which I already used information pulled from it and that is that she eventually did get the insanity plea which most articles will discuss. But as much as I don’t want to touch the religious part of this case its too large of an issue within not to cover it. I apologise now if I offend anyone with my opinions regarding religion or anything that im about to cover and discuss. For whomever grading this please don’t be offended and if you are please skip ahead to the next paragraph. So one of the websites I discovered actually talked about the religion between her and her husband and specifically talked about capitol punishment in a discussion that they had regarding it. One of the bible versus they used was Romans 13 which is as follows : “Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. 2 Consequently, whoever rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves. 3 For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and you will be commended. 4 For the one in authority is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for rulers do not bear the sword for no reason. They are God’s servants, agents of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer. 5 Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also as a matter of conscience.” Now this is a translation and I have a hard time believing anything translations say with an absolute because some things are lost in translations. But what this boils down to is saying capitol punishment is alright in the eyes of god because as god has created rulers and their subjects will obey the rulers and their decisions even regarding murder. I find this interesting because this idea to me is hypocritical. The idea that god would say that murder ( or killing in regards to punishment) is ok because it was the rulers(the judges) decision regarding a lawbreaker contradicts the 10 commandments stating “thou shall not kill”. That is the reason I don’t personally agree with capitol punishment. Now this is interesting to this case because it would actually discuss the thought process(behavioral and cognitive psychology) behind if Yates believed killing her kids was a just means to an end as well as her ideas behind the punishment that she would have received. As stated in the same article she was eventually glad that she didn’t receive the death penalty but at one time during her psychosis she believed that was one way to kill satan was by receiving the death penalty.
So I cant say until I read this article that I knew all of her childrens names but in this article they are all lined up and it is quite obvious that they are all famous names from the bible, Noah, Luke, john, Paul, Mary. Another reason that her psychosis and main delusions and hallucinations revolve around the stress of having said 5 children and her strong religious convictions.
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,218445-1,00.html
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans+13&version=NIV
http://www.oprah.com/omagazine/Andrea-Yates-A-Cry-in-the-Dark/1
Psychosis, Clinical and behavioral psychology, hallucinations, delusions, delusions of grandeur, schizophrenia, psychiatrist, postpartum depression, suicide, prosecution, jury, judge, defense, law, legal, insanity plea, guilty, death penalty, psychotic
The most obviously relevant psychological factors to Yates’ sanity at the time of the crime are her array of mental illnesses and the signs that she was suffering heavily that apparently went ignored by her husband. The postpartum depression factor is the one I find most interesting because of the fact that everyone in her family knew that it stemmed from the birth of her fourth child, yet her husband continued to push her to have more children. This was an interesting point that was brought up at the trial as well because I personally never would have counted him partially guilty for the death of his kids simply by his act of impregnating a woman who was already suffering from sever postpartum depression, and was attempting to take care of her dying father at the same time. I’m not surprised that he never was tried as an accessory to the murder of his children, but I thought that it was an excellent point to bring up in front of the jury, to at least take some of the blame off of Yates herself.
Another interesting, and not immediately apparent factor was the incorporation of the information about the gender studies as they pertain to sanity cases at the end of the chapter. This became incredibly important when you consider that her competency jury consisted of 11 women and one man. This seemed odd to me though because the book stated that women defendants are more likely to succeed when using the insanity defense in court, but this jury still found her competent to stand trial. Yes, I realize that these are two different steps in the trial process that are fairly unrelated, however I would stand to speculate that the same psychological principles that causes a jury to sympathize with a woman’s sanity at the time of her crimes, might also be more apt to find her not competent to stand trial.
http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/notorious_murders/women/andrea_yates/index.html
This link discusses in more detail than the book the actual scene of the crime and Yates arrest. What I found interesting was the book allows you to assume that Yates felt some sort of remorse for what she had done, by covering her children and laying them in the bed, and if that were true then that would lead one to believe that she did indeed know that killing her children was a wrongful act, and was at the time of the crime sane. However, this link gives a picture of a woman who is detached from feeling, shows no emotion about the acts at all, and is responsive to police questioning. If this is the true state of Yates psychosis at the time of the crime, then she is not showing any signs of remorse, no real emotional attachment at all toward the acts, and was therefore most likely not aware of the wrongfulness of her acts. To me this seems like such a pivotal issue in the case, especially when it was being argued in Texas, where the definition of insanity lies solely in the defendant’s perception of right and wrong. This idea is discussed briefly by both psychologists, one stating, rather logically, that if she thought this idea came from the devil, and she knew that the devil was evil and wrong, but then carried out the acts in spite of that, she had to have known that the act itself was wrong.
http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2012/03/how-andrea-yates-lives-and-lives-with-herself-a-decade-later/254302/
This link tells of how Andrea Yates is doing today, and how her case really changed the criminal justice system and some of its views on mental illness and insanity. This is simply a call between her lawyer and a reporter, but what’s interesting is that her lawyer actually states that he was glad that the first verdict was a guilty one because without the appeal to that psychiatrist’s testimony the case would have just been another one for the books. I find that statement interesting because when you consider the mindset of a defense attorney, you have to wonder what goes through their minds when they’re defending someone who they fully know is a murder. Did he truly believe that she was insane, or was he simply doing his absolute best to protect her rights, and it just so happened that one of the witnesses perjured themselves? He also talks about the importance of the case from a mental health advocate standpoint, because it’s hard to realize how far psychology as a science, and our understanding of mental diseases has come in such a short time. Especially with the advancements in technology that allow us to actually view the brain of a mentally ill person, and this information often times will lead to more appropriate medication and treatment of patients.
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,218445,00.html
This link provides an incredibly detailed outline of the events surrounding the case. I want to focus only the part that discusses what the husband knew, and what he did. I find it eerie that he knew his wife was suffering from a mental illness that was causing her to be suicidal, and yet when her episodes started up again instead of taking her back to the doctor that had helped her in the past, he chose to find someone new. This doctor was not helpful, and after two attempted suicides and one month of a committed psychiatric stay, finally prescribed the same medication was on previously, but two days before the murders denied her the medication. Even further, he claimed to be unaware that she ever had auditory hallucinations, when those symptoms of her psychosis were outlined in the records and files of her previous doctor, and I’m sure that he had access to those records if he should need them for more accurate treatment of this patient.
Andrea Yates drowned her five children in a bathtub and told people that she committed this act in order to save them from going to hell. It was said by one of the experts who testified that Yates was insane at the time of the crime that she knew what she was doing was legally wrong but, in her mind, it was morally right. Under Texas law, however, the only way you can concluded as insane is if you did not know what you were doing was wrong. By Texas law, the first time around, Yates was determined to be sane at the time of her crime.
Competency is knowing what is going on in the trial process. The suspect will be able to help their defense and understands the consequences and can make informed decisions. Andrea Yates was determined competent because she know what would take place in the trial and she was order to aid her defense by giving information about the crime. She understand what was at stake and know what would happen if she was found guilty. She was able to tell the defense why she did the crime. However, during some interviews with her should would take minutes to respond to a question after it was asked. Although she was determined to be competent she still seemed to suffer from some mental illness at the time of her trial.
Determining whether Yates was insane at the time of her crime was a week long process and even after she was found to by guilty the defense appealed and she was later found to be not guilty by reason of insanity. People went back and forth on this decision because there is so much gray area when concluding if someone is sane. Yates did know that her actions were wrong but she did not do them out of spite or revenge she honestly thought that she was helping her children. Committing the murders were the right thing to do in her mind. So is this the thought process that is sane or insane? Two questions must be asked when determining whether a person is insane. Did they know the consequences of their actions, and did they know what they were doing was wrong. Only the second one applies in the state of Texas. However, Yates did know what she was doing was illegal but she thought it would save her children so did she really think her actions were wrong? Also, she did not fully understand the consequences of her actions. If she had been in the right mind at the time I do not think she would have committed the murders because she would understand the permanency of her actions.
http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/notorious_murders/women/andrea_yates/2.html
This link just goes into a lot more detail with the murder and the trial. It focuses on other aspects than just the issue of sanity. It has a section that describes the role that Satan played in her trail and I found that really interesting to read.
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,218445,00.html
This article gives more information on the court room and what went on inside it. It also talked more about the Texas restrictions on the qualifications for insanity, which made the case more interesting than if it had happened in another state. I think that this case is a prime example of why there should be overall guidelines for insanity in every state. I do not think that it is fair that a person can be legally insane in one state but not in another. Court rooms are supposed to be fair and serve justice. But how can they do that when the rules are different from state to state.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,143508,00.html
In this link I learned that during the time of her trail Andrea filed for divorce. I found this really interesting because throughout the trail much controversy was stirred around her husband Rusty. Many people thought Rusty was to blame because he knew his wife was having problems and he did not get her help and they kept having more children even though he knew that his wife had extreme postpartum depression. Some people even took is as far as to say that they were prosecuting the wrong parent. During all this time I could not help but think, but Andrea Yates was the one who drowned the children not he father.
Chapter 19 in 'Minds On Trial' describes the tragic and most controversial case of the mentally ill mother Andrea Yates and her ability to stand competent in her trial and her insanity plea. Andrea Yates ended the lives of her five young children by drowning each of them in a bathtub back in 2001. When she was arrested and put on trial she claimed in her defense in the murders was that she was insane at the time of the murders so therefore she pled the insanity plea.
Andrea Yates suffered from severe bouts of Postpartum depression, more so after the birth of her fourth child. But she had several mentral illnesses that she had suffered years prior to the murders. She gave birth to five children in the span of seven years and after each birth, Andrea's mental health took a drastic decline. She suffered from psychosis and took antidepressant medications on a daily basis. People claim she also suffered from Schizophrenia, a secere mental illness that causes one to lose touch with reality. After the birth of her first child Andrea would have visions of a knife and stabbing.
Later on her visions and Schizophrenia escalated, she claimed to have visions of Satan and she even attempted suicide not only once, but twice. I believe her visions of Satan partly play a role or motive in the murder of her children. Considering the fact that Andrea submerged herself in a 'fire and brimstone' religion, a very strict form of religion. She believed that by ending the lives of her children she was saving them from burning in hell, so in her mind she was performing a very altruistic act.
What I have trouble understanding is that in the state of Texas the only way one can be declared insane at the time the crime was committed is if one didn't understand the concept of right and wrong at the time of the crime. Andrea seemed to know that what she did was wrong, but why she eventually pled insanity but she also believed her purpose for murdering her children was higher than the standards of right and wrong. Andrea was later found guilty but eventually that would lead to an appeal. Some people in the media placed the blame of the children's deaths on Russell Yates, Andrea's husband and the father to her children. People came to this conclusion based on the fact that even though Russell knew she suffered through two suicide attempts and several mental disorders, he continued to have children with her. And with his field of work the family never really settled down in one place nad that was a stressor for Andrea. I feel that Russell 'Rusty' Yates is partly to blame for the murders because he should have opened his eyes to his wife's declining mental health and I feel if he acted sooner and gotten Andrea more help than she had previously received, he wouldn't have had to grieve the death of all his children.
The first link is to an article I looked up due to the curiosity of how Russell Yates is living all these years later. Russell remarried in 2006 and has a young son. He states that remarrying and having another child has helped with his grieving. Russell remains in touch with Andrea on a weekly basis. The second link tells more of the story that isn't fully explained in the book. The article tells of Andrea's confession of the murder of her children and how she feels she failed as a mother to them. When the police arrested her she had no hesitation of letting them know she ended the lives of her five young children. The third and final link I found is about Andrea's murder conviction for drwoning her children and how it was overturned by an appeals court due to the erroneous testimony given by a psychiatrist stating that Andrea got the idea to drown her five children in the bathtub from a non- existent epsiode of "Law and Order".
I think the readings assigned to us this week over the insanity defense and competency couldn't have come at a bette time because on Tuesday night of this week, I was channel surfing and I came across a news report about the trial of the theatre shooter James Holmes and how the court is determining if he will plea the insanity defense and I had just finished reading the chapter about Andrea Yates and thinking about her insanity plea. So I was just really excited that I made that connection and it helped me comprehend this weeks assignment.
Despite Andrea Yates mental health and whether she is insane or not, the idea of a mother killing her own children is very tragic and saddens me even all these years later.
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/t/story?id=6278872&page=1&ref=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.psychologicalscience.com%2Fpsylaw%2F2013%2F01%2Fandrea-yates-1.html
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,218445,00.html http://www.nbcnews.com/id/6794098/#.UUHfx4y9KSM
Key terms: insanity defense, schizophrenia, psychosis, postpartum depression, hallucinations, dellusions, competency
I remember hearing about Andrea Yates case when it happened, however I did not know exactly what happened and what the final verdict was. This case is so interesting in so many ways because it deals with mental health and how the court system deals with it. This chapter expresses how far we have come in dealing with cases like Andrea Yates, however there are changes that still need to occur that can help ensure the final verdict is accurate. Right away it is apparent that Andrea had severe mental issues that needed to be addressed. I thought it was strange how her husband knew she was struggling and needed help, and yet he wasn’t really helping her. He appeared to be very controlling and only adding to her stressors that influenced her mental illnesses. She expressed several warning signs to him that she was not ok and that she needed help. Before the murders occurred she was dealing with several stressors along with her depression. She was moving, helping her dad who had Alzheimer’s, and taking care of 5 children.
After ever birth she expressed symptoms of postpartum disorder and she did not appear to improve her mental state. Doctors also thought there was a possibility that she had schizophrenia due to hearing voices. Overall there have been so many questions as to why would Andrea Yates kill her 5 children. It is apparent that she had a long history of depression and possibly other mental disorders that led to her decline. The concept on if Andrea Yates was competent to stand trial was a huge part of her case. Before this occurred Andrea was evaluated by clinical psychologist, these individuals study and treat various forms of psychological dysfunction and mental illness. According to the text competency to stand trial is the ability to participate adequately in criminal proceeding and to aid in one’s own defense, this is only referring to her mental state at trial. Andrea was found to be competent to stand trial; the next question was if she was insane according to Texas law. Andrea was not basically because the law is extremely narrow and nearly impossible to meet. The M’Naughten test was done to decide if she was sane at the time of the drowning’s. For this to occur she would have been unable to know the nature or consequences of an act or know that the act was wrong. Andrea was not found insane at the time of the drowning’s.
http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/notorious_murders/women/andrea_yates/3.html
This article discussed an interesting idea as to how mothers are treated by a jury. A writer from ABC news predicted that Andrea Yates would not be sentenced the death penalty because jurors are more lenient with mothers. He was correct as she did not receive the death penalty. This is interesting because according to the article at the time 8 mothers were on death row and yet 180 children are murdered by their mothers. Obviously this does not add up correctly.
http://www.nndb.com/people/026/000085768/
This article discusses more about the religion that Andrea and her husband were involved in. Andrea and her husband met Michael Woroniecki and he preached the wickedness of Eve and of all women. He insisted that if a mother did not bring up her children in the ways of Jesus Christ that were bound for hell. Andrea followed this idea, and became very obsessed and involved in her new religion.
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,218445-2,00.html
This article contains some of the commentary and the questions that Andrea Yates answered during her court hearing. They are very interesting to read because they express how sick she really was during court and most likely at the time of the murders. Andrea really thought she was saving her children from Satan.
Terms: depression, postpartum depression, M’Nahten Rule, mental illness, stressors, Competency to stand trial, insanity, schizophrenia.
The first psychological aspect I’ll discuss is competency to stand trial. This legal term refers to the ability to participate adequately in criminal proceedings and to aid in one’s own defense. It has two parts: the ability to interact rationally with a lawyer, and the ability to understand how court processes work. A clinical psychologist evaluated Andrea Yates and her competency to stand trial within days of her arrest. He found that she was psychotic. Andrea was experiencing hallucinations, and was very inattentive. She could not concentrate or give attention to questioning, sometimes taking up to two minutes to respond to a question. She was treated in a jail’s psychiatric unit for three months until she went before a judge and jury to decide on her competency to stand trial again. It seems that she was still incompetent at this time. She believed that by being convicted and receiving the death penalty, she would be able to kill Satan. This shows that she was unable to rationally assist her lawyer in a defense, which is a key piece of being competent to stand trial. The legal system has come up with the definition of CST for the defendant’s own sake. Because their own liberty is at stake, it is important for them to understand what is going on at every stage of the criminal justice process. If the defendant can fully participate in his or her own defense, it is more likely that the verdict will be fair. Though she still seemed to be showing psychotic symptoms, he jury ended up finding her competent to stand trial, moving the case forward.
The most important psychological aspect of this case is the insanity defense. Insanity means that a defendant lacked moral responsibility and culpability when they committed the crime, and therefore should not be held responsible for their actions, or be punished. The state of Texas has one standard for a person to be held insane at the time of the crime: whether they knew right from wrong. This concept is a difficult and controversial one for psychology and law to intersect at. The expert witnesses for both the defense and prosecution agreed that Andrea was mentally ill. She had a long history of major depressive disorder, anxiety, psychosis, postpartum mental illness, and had tried to commit suicide twice. There were even speculations that she might be schizophrenic. However, insanity is a legal term. Clinical psychologists that evaluate defendants such as Andrea Yates must step outside their area of expertise. They cannot diagnose the defendant with any established psychiatric diagnoses that they are used to. They must fit the defendant’s mental state into the legal concept of insanity. They must decide if the defendant knew right from wrong when they committed the crime. The expert witness for the defense claimed that Andrea knew killing her children was legally wrong, but believed it was morally right. He used the information of Andrea’s religious delusions to back up his claim. She had believed that killing her children was the only way to save them from Satan. The expert witness for the prosecution argued differently. He claimed that Andrea knew her actions were wrong “in the eyes of the law, in the eyes of society, and in the eyes of God.” He claimed that she simply justified her wrongful actions because she felt she was “saving them.” He used some clever information to back up his claim. Andrea had indicated that her idea of killing the children was evil, and was directly from Satan. The expert witness said that this means she knew the action of killing her children was wrong. She also kept these thoughts to herself, probably because she knew the thoughts were wrong. After hearing these expert testimonies, the jury found Andrea guilty. Of course there ended up being some false information about he Law and Order episode, which probably influenced the jury’s decision. After the second trial and 13 hours of deliberation, Andrea was found not guilty by reason of insanity.
The first fact I discovered came from: http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,218445,00.html. This stated that Andrea’s hallucinations, delusions, and thoughts of killing her children had been documented in medical records in 1999 after Andrea’s first suicide attempt. This shocked me! She had told her first psychiatrist of the horrible crime she would eventually commit. Now there are obvious confidentially laws that psychiatrists must obey, but they do have an exception. If a person poses a danger to themselves or others, the psychiatrists can, and should, release the information. It seems that Andrea’s original psychiatrist did not do his job. He simply “advised” Andrea and Russell that they should not have any more children. Perhaps if he had shared with Russell the true danger that Andrea posed to the children, the crime could have been prevented.
The next fact I found interesting is from: http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2012/03/how-andrea-yates-lives-and-lives-with-herself-a-decade-later/254302/.
This was an article written for the 10-year anniversary of Andrea’s murder conviction (later to be changed to not guilty by reason of insanity). It said that Andrea is still being treated in a psychiatric institution, and that she now has a bipolar diagnosis. It also said that Andrea’s attorney is trying to create a discharge plan for her. This would gradually allow her to be released for short periods of time.
The previous article that talked of Andrea’s recent bipolar diagnosis really intrigued me. I searched for more information about this, and came across: http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/notorious_murders/women/andrea_yates/5.html. It turns out that she had a family history of depression, bipolar, and schizophrenia. I also found that the rare type of postpartum depression (where the mother attempts to kill herself or children) is likely to occur in women who are bipolar. I find it odd that the psychiatrists that treated Andrea never saw more evidence of bipolar. The common treatment lithium may have been more helpful to her.
This chapter on the trial of Andrea Yates was an interesting one and does a good job showing how the insanity defense is used in real life cases. It is easy to see why this trial was mentioned at the start of Chapter 9 in our Forensic and Legal Psychology book. I remember hearing about the case when it came up in 2001 but I didn’t pay much attention to it at the, mainly due to the fact that I was 10 and had other priorities at the time.
Andrea Yates was accused of drowning her five children in the bathtub at their home while her husband was at work. This obviously brought national attention to the case, with many people wondering why Yates would do such a thing and what could have caused it. The chapter gives many possibilities for why Yates may have been motivated to commit such a horrifying act. First off, the chapter explains some of Yates’ back-story. Andrea Yates had a history of mental illness, ranging at least back to 1994. During this year, Yates gave birth to her first son and shortly after she claimed to have had a vision of a knife that transformed into a vision of someone being stabbed. This confession didn’t come until after her arrest in 2001 but the vision that Yates claims to have had was an indication that she was likely suffering from postpartum depression. Andrea slowly became more isolates, lonely, and depressed as time went on. In 1999, Yates gave birth to her fourth son and also tried to commit suicide by overdosing. She also held a knife to her throat a few months later, which her husband wrestled from her. Andrea was diagnosed with severe depression and psychotic features. It was also questioned at this time whether she had schizophrenia. Andrea was put on antidepressants and saw a psychiatrist regularly until the incident occurred in 2001.
Yates had a competency trial in order to determine if she was competent to stand trial at the time. Shortly before this, she was diagnosed as psychotic by a clinical psychologist. The competency trial initially voted 8-4 in favor of Yates being incompetent to stand trial but eventually shifted to Yates being competent to stand trial. Yates’ trial hinged upon whether or not she would be deemed insane at the time of her crime. Her trial used an adapted form of the M’Naughten rule, in which she would need to fulfill the standard of being unable to know that the act she committed was wrong at the time she committed the crime. Yates was eventually found not to be insane and was found guilty and sentenced to life in prison. Due to errors in her trial however, her attorneys made an appeal to the Court of Appeals for the First District in Texas. Yates was eventually granted a new trial, in which the prosecutors said they would appeal also if their conviction wasn’t upheld.
I feel that this case best relates to clinical psychology. This is due to the fact that Andrea Yates clearly suffered from several mental disorders, which she was diagnosed with officially by clinical psychologists.
The first source I found has a more detailed back-story of Andrea Yates. One of the things it mentions is that Andrea would refer to herself at times as “Fertile Myrtle”, due to the fact that she had 5 children in the span of 8 years. I feel like this may indicate that her actions weren’t driven as much by a need to act out against her husband for burdening her with so many children as the book suggested they were. It also gives a slightly more detailed description of her first suicide attempt than the book did, saying that Andrea begged her husband to come home the day before and that he found her shaking involuntarily and chewing on her fingers.
http://crime.about.com/od/current/p/andreayates.htm
The second source I found gives a basic overview of the trial and her back-story. This source has more of a harsh view on the conviction of Yates, saying that the state of Texas is partly at fault due to their harsh, reactionary sentencing practices. It also puts forth some ideas for how the policies can be changed in the future to better deal with cases such as the Andrea Yates trial.
http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2002/03/yate-m16.html
The third source I found involves the final sentencing of Andrea Yates, after the end of the events listed in the book. The article states that Yates was found not guilty by reason of insanity and was committed to a mental hospital. The article also has a quote from Andrea’s husband who said that the court reached the correct decision in finding Andrea not guilty due to insanity. The article also spends some time talking about the previous trial mentioned in our book.
http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-201_162-1837248.html
This chapter on Andrea Yates begins with describing the events of the day she killed her children, and right away it is made clear that Yates had been suffering from severe post-partum depression and psychosis for two years already. After Yates committed this horrendous crime, it was puzzling to a lot of people as to why she could have done such a thing. This is where her competency to stand trial and her mental state come into play.
Not only was Andrea Yates suffering from severe mental illnesses, she was apparently heavily burdened psychologically at home as well in the form of her husband and his demands (he was also aware of her mental problems, yet continued to act as he did). Having an unstable mental state and then having unreasonable expectations placed on you by your husband would be a terrible combination. Feeling as if you aren’t good enough in the home would do no good for a person who has severe mental health issues, it would only trigger events like this one to occur if the circumstances got bad enough. Yates was also faced with having to care for her ill father in 2001 while she was suffering from her mental illnesses, and this would cause a lot more stress on her that would also aid in her reaching her breaking point.
It was pointed out in the chapter multiple times that Yates had been hospitalized on more than one occasion for her mental illness. In fact, she was released only a few days before she killed her children. This just doesn’t seem right to me. Clearly there was not enough attention placed on her and her condition if she was allowed to be released while in such a fragile and dangerous state of mind. While she was hospitalized, she was determined to be suffering from severe depression with psychotic features, post-partum depression and possibly schizophrenia.
In terms of her arrest, Yates was arrested and was evaluated by a clinical psychologist within days. All of the psychologists that evaluated Yates determined that she was in fact mentally ill and that she wasn’t faking her illness. What the question is at this point is whether or not she is competent to stand trial at this time and if she is eligible for the insanity defense. Yates apparently believed that if she were to be found guilty and was given the death penalty that she would be able to kill Satan. With her defense team being aware of her delusions, they strongly believed that she was not aware of the court process and that she would be of no help to them in creating a defense. Even with this being known by the jury, they came back saying Yates was competent to stand trial. It’s hard to say if she really was competent to stand trial or not when it comes down to it, but it sounds like she wasn’t in regards to her defense team.
When looking at her sanity while she was committing the crime, people had differing opinions. In Texas, the criteria for being able to use the insanity defense were stringent, and it’s really hard to be able to use it. It simply came down to whether or not she knew the drowning of her children was legally wrong when she was doing it. It came out that Yates felt she was saving her children from Satan when she killed them and that she killed them in their best interest. She even covered their bodies afterward which was thought to have been something she did out of respect. With this all being said, it is clear that she did not understand that what she was doing was morally wrong, but many did believe she knew that it was legally wrong. Because the testimonies in which it was pointed out that Yates knew that the killings were legally wrong, she was found to be guilty of capital murder and was therefore up for the death penalty. The jury, however, was in favor of giving her life in prison instead.
http://crime.about.com/od/current/a/yates_trial.htm: This website is focused solely on the trial of Andrea Yates. It is able to provide a lot more detail than the book was able to simply because the chapter was focused on more than just her trial and didn’t have enough space to go into as much detail. I like how it has different sections, such as “recent developments” and “psychiatric developments” that you are able to read in order to break down the information a little bit. There are even smaller subsections under these larder sections to help break it down even more for you. There isn’t a whole lot of information on this site, but as I said earlier, the detail is great.
http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/notorious_murders/women/andrea_yates/index.html: I like this website because it discusses the debate on whether Yates is evil or ill. These are the kinds of debates that could go on forever simply because you can twist and turn any information you get from the case and change the circumstances of why it happened and what was going through her mind if you really wanted to. It was nice how this website starts right from the beginning of the ordeal with the call that she placed to her husband and ends with a photo gallery so we, as readers, are able to get an actual look into the life of Andrea Yates. I said the previous website was detailed, but this site blows that one out of the water. The amount of detail on this site is amazing and anyone who would be interested in reading about Yates and her mental illnesses regarding her crime would love this site. You wouldn’t leave with any questions after reading it all.
http://crime.about.com/od/current/p/andreayates.htm: The last site I chose is about a profile of Andrea Yates. This site is interesting because it starts from when she was in high school and even talks about when and how she met her husband. Details like these in someone’s life who committed a crime of this magnitude and who suffers from such severe mental illnesses are crucial for getting a look at the larger picture of why it happened the way it did. A lot of times, the issues begin well before the crime occurred, so it’s good to get a well-rounded look at her life if you are really wanting to gain knowledge of her and the crime itself.
The chapter on Andrea Yates was fascinating. It was wrought with some horrible situations and many thought provoking questions on the ideas of just what defines the term insanity and its use as a defense in our legal system. Yates after suffering from post partum mental depression would drown her five children under the pretense of saving them from Satan. This would only set the stage on which her life and her previous “episodes” would be critically examined. Yates was tried initially under a modified Mc’Naughton rule which under the Texas revision stated that to determine whether Yates would be declared insane she would have to have known the difference between right and wrong at the time of her crime. A great deal of focus would be put on her life and why she would commit such a heinous act. The focus would be on several points of her life. The fact that the first warning signs would start after the birth of Yates first child, where she visualized a knife and heard voices commanding her to use it. As time would go on she would continue to have these auditory hallucinations and soon they would develop into delusions that what she was doing (harming herself and killing her children) was morally right in the face of combating Satan. This is a clear sign of her suffering from Schizophrenia and other psychoses. So the question remained that she clearly had issues and was clearly not sane. Even the prosecution acknowledged that she clearly wasn’t well. Yet still the question remained did she know right from wrong. A point acknowledged in the chapter was how difficult and narrow I believe the term that was used in how to use the insanity defense was at this time. This difficulty led what a jury that was sure of her insanity to be swayed to be able to stand a full trial. The chapter ended with mention of her counsel seeking an appeal and it being granted. She was to receive a new trial which is what I looked up for as one of my links. Her retrial found her Insane and she was remanded to a psychiatric hospital outside of San Antonio to this day. The real questions I wondered were what she is doing now. Her attorney started the Yates foundation which was to provide information and post partum depression and mental illness in general. Yates donates money by selling aprons and handmade cards online anonymously, and all her profits goes towards the foundation. In more recent news, about a year ago she made headlines by asking for a pass to go to church weekly for two hours. Her attorney believes she’s ready to re-enter society and get a job and this would be a good first step for her.
Links: http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2012/03/how-andrea-yates-lives-and-lives-with-herself-a-decade-later/254302/
http://www.chron.com/news/article/Jury-finds-Yates-insane-not-guilty-1857308.php
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/03/28/10910591-andrea-yates-who-killed-her-five-children-will-ask-for-pass-to-attend-church?lite
Drowning five children would a major case in any situation, because you must call into question the state of mind of the person. In the case of Andrea Yates she had an extensive history of serve mental illness that was never properly address. It’s so hard to believe that somebody that lived such a normal life would commit such a horrible crime. She lived a relatively normal life with until the birth of her first child. Her first sign of psychological problem was after she gave birth to her first child, when she started to have strange dreams. She seemed to be suffering from postpartum depression and it just got worse after giving birth to her next four children. From the reading we see that she underwent a lot of stress during the marriage which the husband never recognized. Mr. Yates seemed very controlling and never considered the stress his wife was going through when he chose to keep moving the family around. Having such a large family in home that’s not suitable for that size can put more stress on the main caretaker which was Andrea. Other factors adding to her stress was taking care of her father which suffered from Alzheimer’s and needed constant care. When Andrea started to show signs of depression she turn to a preacher that talked about evil things and the devil, this just added to her delusion she was suffering from.
Andrea Yates’s case sparked major controversy was it comes to mental competency in court cases. The case was held in Texas which one adopted one part of the M’Naughten test, which was the person, must know that the act was right or wrong at the time of the crime. This made it very hard for the defense to prove that Yates was insane and needed lots of help. It’s easy to see that Andrea Yates loved her children because she laid them in the beds and covered them instead of trying to cover up her crime. Because she suffered from religious delusions she was trying to protect her children from Satan and she felt she had no choice but to kill them. The question that needed to be dealt with was whether knew what she was doing was wrong. It’s believed that she knew what she was doing was wrong, but for she was doing it for the greater good. But suffering from extreme depression and not responding to any of the treats could have been a reason why she killed her children. Whether Andrea Yates was competent to stand trial was also a big issue. She seemed to understand what was happen and knew that she was facing the death penalty.
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,218445,00.html. I found this article interesting because in the beginning it gave us view from Russell Yates side of the story. He talked about how much he still cared about his wife. He also talked about how much he has changed due to everything that has happened throughout the trial. He use to believe in the death penalty because of his religious beliefs and now that has changed.
http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/decade-drowning-children-lawyer-claims-andrea-yates-ready/story?id=13883269. After years of treatment Andrea Yates could be released from to be put into a community-based outpatient facility. She seems to be showing signs of recovery and is now trying to re-enter society. She has been slowing working her way to lower security hospitals by showing improvements due to treatment.
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=6278872&page=1. I wanted to see what Rusty Yates was doing today and I was surprised how he has moved on. He has remarried and has a new child Mark with new wife Laura. He still talks with Andrea a few times a month and is still very supportive of her treatment.
Thirty six year old Andrea Yates was found guilty of murdering her 5 children. Shortly after, evidence from her first trial came to be found inaccurate. Her attorney’s fought for a new trial with the court of appeals. Yates defense for the crimes? Insanity. There were many different characteristics that were very clear in her case. One such characteristic is that Yates had a history of severe mental illness after having her first son (who was 7 at the time he was drowned.) She was diagnosed with a Postpartum Mental Disorder. Despite expert advice not to have any more children, Yates and her husband Russell continued to get pregnant. After the birth of each child, Yates’s depression got worse. Over the course of seven years before murdering her children, Yates was hospitalized multiple times for attempted suicide. Some of the practitioners she met with even suspected she might have schizophrenia. Along with trying to cope with her own disorders, Yates was left to take care of her 5 children in their home (which was a bus) while her husband was at work. Another stressor that led to Yates’s breakdown was the passing of her father. He had suffered from Alzheimer’s for several years before his death. Yates was also in charge of caring for him as well. On top of the already severe depression, the passing of Yates’s father threw her into a graver state. All of these factors contributed to her insanity defense.
While battling her severe depression, Andrea Yates sought the help of evangelist wife Rachel Woroniecki. The evangelical preacher and his wife attempted to help Yates with her situation. Woroniecki sent her several letters with passages from the Bible about how women should subject themselves to their husbands and children. After further contact with the couple, Yates began to be more religiously preoccupied, which concerned both her husband and her family. Upon Yates’s arrest, she stated she had saved her children from Satan. She also said that if she were sentenced to hell, then she would kill Satan for all the evil in the world. Some people have the opinion that Yates’s had brainwashed by the Woroniecki family and that she truly believed she was doing the right thing for her children in God’s eyes. However, some experts believe she knew right and wrong actions from each other, due to some of her previous thoughts she had kept to herself. One of these thoughts (a vision of a knife stabbing someone) was shortly after the Yates’ first son was born.
One thing I did not know what that Andrea Yates has taken a role in spreading the awareness about mental illness. Her lawyers have created a fund called the Yates Children Memorial Fund which goes to help new moms suffering from Postpartum Depression. Yates herself will make cards, aprons, and other things to sell anonymously to help donate money to the fund. She will often write letters to people who donate to the fund.
Another thing I did not know about Andrea’s case was that in December of 2007, Andrea Yates was found “Not guilty by reason of insanity”. After deliberating for thirteen hours over three days, the jury only charged her for the deaths of three of her children.
The last thing I found that I did not know was Russell Yates was not allowed in the courtroom during his wife’s trial. I did not know people testifying are not allowed to be in the room while a court proceeding is occurring. Yates’s family would update him during breaks, as he sat in the hallway every day of the trial.
http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2012/03/how-andrea-yates-lives-and-lives-with-herself-a-decade-later/254302/
http://articles.cnn.com/2007-12-11/us/court.archive.yates8_1_russell-rusty-yates-kaylynn-williford-joe-owmby?_s=PM:US
http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=130467&page=1
The Andrea Yates case deals directly with the competency to stand trial after she killer her five children. Competency is the ability to stand trial and aid in the defense of their own case, understand the court processes, and understand the possible punishments if they are found guilty. This case split opinions about personality responsibility, mental illness, the responsiveness of the mental health system, and the culpability of people close to Yates. It was found that that shortly after the birth of Andrea’s first son, she had a vision in which she saw an image of a knife that turned into a vision of someone being stabbed. She never told anyone of these images until after her arrest. This was a key event that indicated she might be suffering from postpartum mental disorder. This type of mental disorder can include severe mood changes (psychosis), and usually happens within four weeks after the birth of a child. To help the case against Andrea Yates, the psychiatrist who took care of Yates during the first hospitalization testified that she was “severely mentally ill, she would not have survived. She was not eating or taking in fluids.” Yates was then diagnosed as having severe depression with psychotic features because she was hearing voices and had concerns that she might hurt somebody.
After staying in mental health facilities and taking a lot of antipsychotic medications, she started to function well. Her husband and her had their fifth and final kid at the same time she had to take care of her father because he had Alzheimer’s disease. Many people believe that these stressors, that all took part in a short span, and her history of mental illness, led to the terrible acts she committed. Some said that Russell, her husband, to be equally responsible for the deaths of their children because of his controlling nature, desire for more children, and crazy religious belief.
After Yates was arrested, Dr. Gerald Harris evaluated her, and he found that Yates was psychotic. An example of her being psychotic was how she was seeing hallucinations where she saw Satan on the walls of her jail cell. Other clinical psychologists evaluated her and found that she definitely wasn’t faking her illness. She was then found the she was competent to stand trial, but the biggest issue in her trial was whether she was insane at the time she drowned her five children. The M’Naughten standard was used in Yates’s trial. This standard required that a person must know the nature or consequences of an act or know that the act was right or wrong. The evidence indicated that there was no rational motive for the drownings, but rather Yates believed by killing her children she was serving their best interests. Yates was found guilty of capital murder and faced a sentencing hearing to determine if she would receive life in prison or the death penalty. She escaped the death penalty and was sentenced to serve life in prison.
Another interesting aspect to the case was Andrea’s husband, Russell. Some said the wrong parent was being prosecuted, because he did not act upon the warning signs that his wife might be dangerous. He claimed that he never knew of his wife’s violent fantasies. The whole case is a study of how men and women behave according with their gender roles.
On interesting thing that I didn’t know about her case was that they found that she read the bible frantically, refused medication when she knew she needed to take it, and at long periods of time she would not feed her kids because her and her kids were bound for Hell. Yates testified that all of these thoughts and actions originated from a Michael Woroniecki, who was their preacher. Yates went on to believe his words, and followed up with actions. I also didn’t know that Yates had a previous miscarriage that worsened her mental state.
http://www.nndb.com/people/026/000085768/
I didn’t know that Yates single handedly testified that her extreme sickness and psychosis occurred only after she killed her kids. One of the creepiest things I found on this website was Yates telling defense attorneys that when she was drowning her oldest son, Noah, his last words were, “I’m sorry”.
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,218445-2,00.html
I found a biography of background information on Andrea Yates and found that before she was married, she graduated from the nursing school at the University of Houston. She then worked as a nurse at the University of Texas. I thought it was interesting that even though she had worked as a nurse, and probably witnessed psychotic people, that she wouldn’t recognize the signs in her self.
http://library.thinkquest.org/04oct/00803/Yates_Frameset.htm
Andrea Yates had postpartum, a mental illness and some of the symptoms that are common in postpartum-onset include fluctuations in mood, mood liability, and preoccupation with infant well-being, the intensity of which may range from overconcern to frank delusions. This is one of the characteristics, of many, of Yates' insanity. I thought it was interesting to see the biases of men and women when they commit a crime. I thought it was interesting because it had biological and psychological factors for women and situational factors for men. I don't think that is entirely fair because Russell Yates, the father of the five children Andrea murdered, got less sympathy than Andrea and she was the one who murdered the children. I fell terrible for this many who has lost all of his seeds. His children has died because of the actions of their mother and they blame him for what happened. I do believe that he could have done something to stop this because there were many things that happened that could have foreseen this event from happening. But he did not know about the visions that Andrea had and what her and her psychiatrist talked about because that information is confidential. I don't think they should have had that fifth child, know her mental stability and being told not to have another child after the fourth. That was another characteristic of Yates' sanity. Having all of these children and her husband being very controlling was another reason, experts thought sh had killed her children. The biggest reason is because of the postpartum, but her husband who got his family to move, home was not very stable, and wanting five children in seven years had an affect of her as well. Many people thought that Andrea was getting back at her husband for making her go through pregnancy and birth so any times and in a very little time period. I believe that is true and could have been a very big factor, but she was insane and they believed it sparked after they had their fifth child. The other characteristic of Yates' sanity was the dying of her father who had suffered from Alzheimer's. She tried taking care of him and actually tried to kill herslef with her father's pills. This was hard for her and was a catalyst for her insanity.
A reason why Andrea murdered her children like she had was because she thought she was a bad mother and her kids were not developing correctly. That is the strange part about this whole situation, she knew it was socially wrong, but she thought that it was morally right. Another reason she killed her children was because she thought she was protecting them from Satan so, in her mind, she thought she was doing the right thing.
http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/notorious_murders/women/andrea_yates/2.html
Andrea and Rusty Yates, both 25, met at their apartment complex in Houston. Andrea, who was usually reserved, initiated the conversation. Andrea had never dated anyone until she turned 23 and prior to meeting Rusty she was healing from a broken relationship. They eventually moved in together and spent much of their time involved in religious study and prayer. They were married on April 17, 1993. They shared with their guests that they planned on having as many children as nature provided.
http://crime.about.com/od/current/p/andreayates.htm
Andrea Yates is now trying to get acclimated with the normality of society. She makes cards and aprons and takes and active role in the Yates Memorial Fund, which helps inform people about mental illnesses. The money Yates' does make, goes to this fund.
http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2012/03/how-andrea-yates-lives-and-lives-with-herself-a-decade-later/254302/
The Andrea Yates case is a classic example of the insanity defense. Texas law states that in order for a person to be given the insanity defense, he/she must not have known that their actions is/are wrong. What is confusing about this case is whether or not Yates knew drowning her children was wrong. Dr. Park Dietz had a great quote in the chapter explaining his thoughts on the case. In short he said if Yates claims that she was saving her children from Satan by drowning them that she must have been competent during the crime because she knew Satan, not God had ordered her to do so. He claims she said nothing about God ordering her to kill her children. Thus she knew that Satan was bad and God was good. Also, another part of the case working against Yates was how she called her husband after the killings, acting calm and telling him to come home immediately. When her husband and the police arrived, she had already laid the children in bed next to one another. It is hard to say whether the act of dressing her children and placing them on the bed shows any sort of remorse for her actions or if she was, as one psychologist wrote, dressing them for their arrival into heaven.
I found the argument over who should be held responsible for the death of the children an interesting topic. On paper Andrea Yates should be the sole perpetrator because she was the one who actually did the drowning. On the other hand, digging somewhat deeper into the case and applying some psychology can bring about different perspectives. For example, Robert Yates knew his wife was stressed out after giving birth to their first son Noah. Compounding that fact with the reality of her husband being gone all day working for NASA and the constant moving that the family did somewhat shows Russell's lack of respect for his wife's well-being. Russell was only adding to the stress of his wife when they began to have more children. Andrea Yates was quoted as saying she would not like to have any more children, yet she still gave birth to her daughter. I can understand where some psychologists are coming from when they say Robert should be held equally responsible for the death of his children. He claims he did not know of the violent images his wife would hallucinate but he also didn't seem to have time to inquire about his wife's habits nor get her much needed help.
It is interesting how no one brought up the fact that she was being seen by different psychiatrists who had her on a variety of different medication but didn't seem to press the issue further. Sure it is easier looking back now and saying she should have sought better treatment. Although, one doctor did press her to undergo shock therapy which would not have been a bad idea considering her illness. They only reserve shock therapy for the deepest depressions and some forms of psychotic behavior and I believe Yates fell under that category.
http://lubbockonline.com/stories/062806/sta_062806066.shtml
This first link deals with one of Yates' cellmates testifying at her court trial. According to the article Yates told her cellmate she was surprised how long it took for the children to stop moving when being drown. Also claiming that her daughter was the easiest and her son the hardest. While disturbing, this article does shed some light on the situation by giving dialogue between two cellmates instead of people in the courtroom.
http://lubbockonline.com/stories/062806/sta_062806066.shtml
I was hoping to find some photos of the crime scene as disgusting as that may seem, but instead I found some family photos of the Yates. It is worth noting that Andrea Yates gave birth to five children in seven years meaning the age differential between each child couldn't be more than two years.
http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2012/03/10-years-later-the-tragedy-of-andrea-yates/254290/
This article was the best because it detailed how Andrea and Russell were doing ten years after the tragedy. Apparently Rusty has remarried and has one child. Andrea on the other hand remains under the care of several medical staff. She is still on medication and was said to have been doing better hoping for a release in the near future. It was also stated in the article that Andrea will be doing fine and have spurts where she had vivid flashbacks of the crime and breaks down.
Andrea Yates had many mental and psychological problems; some of which we as a society don't even understand yet. The major psychological problems Andrea was diagnosed with were severe depression, postpartum mental disorder, and a type of mental psychosis. After being arrested she also admitted to illusions of stabbing her children with a knife shortly after ones birth. She also mentioned on separate occasions of hearing voices.
To better understand Andrea Yates and her horrific crime, we must first better understand her psychological make-up. Many thing could have contributed to Andrea's psychological condition; and many of those living and relationship conditions, I'm sure, were not released to the public. Andrea's living conditions while her husband worked on the road, her personal relationship with her husband and children, and also her confused religious belief in evangelicals all effected her psychological condition.
The importance of understanding Andrea Yates psychological condition is important on many levels. It will better benefit research and understanding why one would think of committing such a horrific crime if acceptable. On the other hand, understanding Andrea's mind is important on a legal stand point. The courts and criminal justice system need to decide if Andrea was insane at the time of the crime and if she was mentally competent enough to stand trial. Does her diagnosis of postpartum depression make her insane at the time of the crime? Would her psychotic voices effect whether or not she was competent enough to make personal and legal decisions? As stated in the chapter, Andrea believed that receiving the death penalty would give her the opportunity to kill Satan. Her main motive in killing her five children was to prevent them from being taken by Satan later in life. Is her main psychotic defect due to her religious beliefs and some type of evangelical brain washing? All of these questions are what we as the public need to depict. In my opinion all of these variables, including other we may not know, contributed to Andrea Yates drowning her five children. There is no one psychological issue with Andrea that we can pin point and put full blame on for her actions. From my research and reading on the Andrea Yates case and her background, her mental capacity and intelligence is standard as an individual, however her religious and psychological beliefs in God and Satan is where the problems develop. Andrea's personality, family practice, and motive to killing her children were all based on some sort of religious mission.
Focusing more on her psychological conditions, Andrea was on medication for over two years; medication to help her depressions and symptoms of schizophrenia. I think the psychiatric and medical counsel fell short in Andrea's case. Andrea could have received better mental health for her psychological problems She could have been lacking in medication or counseling. I think it is a reg flag that Andrea was on antidepressants for two years as her condition did not improve. Her medical professionals, her husband, and even Andrea can be at blame for not receiving the right medical attention Of course this is all speculation, but one can only wonder if better, more appropriate medical attention could have prevented the loss of those five young lives.
Psychological conditions of Andrea Yates-
http://lostangelesca.tumblr.com/post/24970837081/on-andrea-yates-what-science-can-and-cant-tell-us#_=_
http://www.psychohelp.at/h/college/abnormal/postpartum_depression.shtml
http://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(06)69789-4/fulltext
The Andrea Yates case was a dark and saddening example of competency and mental insanity in the courtroom. Andrea Yates was on trial for the murders of her five children, whom she had drowned in the bathtub. Defenses objective was to receive a lesser sentence due to Andrea being incompetent or insane. Competency is the ability to stand trial and aid in the defense of the trial, understand the court proceedings, and participate in the trial evaluation. Competency is all about the suspects mental state at the time of the trial. Initially, the jury voted that Andrea was incompetent by an 8 to 4 margin, however they later revised this and deemed her competent to stand trial.
Subsequently, the defense's next action was to attempt for the insanity plea. Insanity has to do with the suspects mental state at the time of the crime, whether they knew their actions were right or wrong. It was previously known that Andrea suffered from postpartum depression, psychosis, loneliness, and anxiety. She had multiple stays at mental health facilities, where she received anti-psychotic medications, suffered religious delusions after the birth of her first two kids, and attempted suicide twice. She had even told her doctors that she was afraid that she was going to hurt someone.
Andrea's trial took place in Texas, where the revised M'Naughter rule was in effect. This rule states that the suspect must know the nature or consequences of an act or know the act was right or wrong. However, only the second part of this rule was in effect. They only had to prove if she knew her action was right or wrong. The defense stated that Andrea's psychosis had prompted her to kill her kids because it was in their best interest to protect them from Satan. She knew it was legally wrong, but thought it was morally acceptable. The prosecution stated that since she knew it was wrong and illegal she could not receive the insanity plea. Andrea was then found guilty and sentenced to life in prison.
However, the defense later appealed for a retrial on the bases of an erroneous testimony by the prosecution's psychiatrist. This expert testimony had had a large effect on the jury's decision, so Andrea was granted a retrial in 2005.
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/03/28/10910591-andrea-yates-who-killed-her-five-children-will-ask-for-pass-to-attend-church?lite
Since our book left off at the granting of Andrea's retrial, I looked up what had happened since then. This site stated that the murder conviction had been overturned by reason of insanity and that she was serving her time at a state psychiatric hospital. She had even asked for a 2 hour leave period in order to attend church. Her lawyer said he believes she is ready to leave the institute for at home care and even have a job, which I think is just crazy.
http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/notorious_murders/women/andrea_yates/index.html
One interesting thing I learned on this site was that when Andrea was being interviewed by investigators directly after the crime she said that she was a bad mother and expected to be punished. This seems to me that she had known what she did was wrong and therefore shouldn't be able to receive the insanity plea.
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,218445,00.html
Another interesting thing I found from this site was that prior to the retrial, Andrea actually faced the death penalty by lethal injection. I also read about the erroneous testimony by forensic psychiatrist Park Dietz. Dietz had been paid $500 an hour to dispute the defense's insanity claims. However, he admitted that he had mixed up facts that prosecutors wound up emphasizing to the jury.
Andrea Yates told the public that she had had a vision in which she saw an image of a knife that transformed into a vision of someone being stabbed. Clearly, she has a mental disorder, if this is in fact true. A person who has visions like this is clearly disturbed and should be declared unsuitable to take care of herself, let alone her children. She and her husband moved around a little bit, from a trailer home to a converted van, and into a real home in Texas. Having such a life where there’s no consistency and her feeling so isolated was detrimental to her psychotic state.
She also tried to commit suicide and diagnosed with severe depression. Then a few months later she has hospitalized yet again because her husband had to struggle with her to stop her from cutting her throat with a knife. The doctors said she was diagnosed with severe depression with psychotic features and she was hearing voices and had concerns that she might “hurt somebody.” The doctors were skeptical about whether she was schizophrenia as well.
Yates having this many incidents with several attempts at suicide, even stating that “she may hurt somebody” were a clear indicator that she was competent but insane. Having somebody share these feelings and doctors being open about their professional opinion saying she was diagnosed with more than one mental disorder is a clear sign that she, was in fact, insane. I believe her being able to recall all of this to put her in the category of being competent to stand trial. She was obviously aware of what she had done, calling the police and then her husband. If she weren’t competent I believe she would have acted differently after murdering her 5 children.
There was another story about a woman who murdered her children in a similar way, she drowned them in their bath tub and she also plead insanity. However, the difference in this woman’s case was that she killed her children in chronological order. From youngest to oldest or youngest to oldest, I can’t recall. I don’t remember the details of the case but I do remember that she got charged with murder or manslaughter (She got convicted) because she did it in chronological order. They said that doing it in order like that was intentional and that she was neither insane nor incompetent.
Psychology and law are two similar, yet different practices. I think that they join together for incompetence and insanity in the most obvious way. Those terms are psychological viewing of a person’s mental state, either at a time of a crime, or the time of a trial. Obviously joining in the obvious way it also joins together to determine a person’s fate. An extremely well known psychologist was hired to determine Andrea Yates’ case in order to determine whether or not she would spend the rest of her life in prison or a mental institution. Or even the death penalty.
http://crime.about.com/od/current/p/andreayates.htm
I didn’t know that she stopped taking her medication when she got home which lead her to self-mutilate. She then also stopped feeding her children because she felt as though they were eating too much. She also had hallucination that there were cameras in her house and people were watching her. She said that characters from television were then talking to her and her children. I also didn’t know that she had a period of time where she got better and then her husband convinced her to stop taking her medication and to have another child, after being advised that she shouldn’t do that. Her father dying was her next trigger. She became depressed, stopped doing a lot of things!
http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2012/03/how-andrea-yates-lives-and-lives-with-herself-a-decade-later/254302/
I was unaware that in her appeal the defense argued about something that the prosecution had told the juror’s. This article stated that the prosecution had said that Yates had watched an episode of Law and Order in which a mother had drowned her children in the bath tub. This was part of their case because they believed that this was evidence of premeditated murder. Although this was their case, it failed because no episode had ever aired. How they got the information to be taken in to consideration or even to be true, are beyond me. The defense should have caught this in the first trial.
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,218445-2,00.html
I didn’t know that she had gone on record saying, “I killed my kids” when the whole time she was saying she did this to save her children. She should have said “save” instead, making the connection that it wasn’t murder it was an act of a loving mother. I would have never thought of a single word would make a difference in someone’s testimony. I think that this crime was something horrible and psychology and law join together in such cases.
The case of Andrea Yates was the case everyone was talking about in 2001. Andrea suffered from postpartum depression which people believed caused her to go crazy and murder her five lovely and innocent children. Her condition had been going on for years, after each child was born her husband wanted another one even though she knew she could not handle it. He pushed for more and her depression got worse, with the more kids that were being born their socioeconomic status began to plummet.
Some psychological characteristics that I found in this case would have to be her mental illness of suffering majorly from her postpartum depression, believing that Satan was out to murder her children, and the thoughts of suicide. All of these play a huge role in her case to figure out if she was insane or not at the time of the crime.
For her to believe that Satan was out to kill her children is a little sketchy, to have those voices in your head and to actually think that there must have been something wrong with Mrs. Yates. This is one of the reasons why people think she was insane; anyone who thinks that Satan is out for their children is pretty crazy in my eyes. Along with these thoughts, the thoughts of suicide crossed her mind a few times before, this to me does not make a person insane but it does raise a few questions.
http://crime.about.com/od/current/a/yates_trial.htm
This website talks about how Andrea Yates knew everything she was doing was wrong. She knew that killing was a sin and she knew that what she was going to do was not okay according to the bible. The website also states that she was psychotic and she believed that characters on cartoons were telling her that she was giving her children too many sweets etc. and that she was evil. This is quite odd to hear honestly.
http://www.nndb.com/people/026/000085768/
The second website shows the same evidence and story that every other website states but this website stated that she refused to feed her children and even herself and that she claimed that she was a bad mother, that is why she needed to kill her children.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=389198&page=1
The last website states that she tried to hide her plans of murder, which clearly states that she was sane and she knew that what she was doing was wrong. All of these websites state the same thing but small information that no one really reads into is put into these sites, which I am glad that they did so everyone could figure out the little details.
On June 20, 2001 Andrea Yates drowned her five children. Over the years of her life, Yates was social, she was valedictorian, she had friend by once she started having her children she became dedicated to them and was isolated. She started having postpartum depression, and it grew over time. It started with her first son and after that it grew. I think her life and mental state changes show characteristics of developmental psychology. Another characteristic of Yate’s case show clinical psychology, mental disorders, before her crime Yates had several failed suicidal attempts, and she was taken to the hospital where she was diagnosed with psychosis. Before that after her fourth son was born Yates was diagnosed with postpartum depression. The characteristics of biopsychology is the medication Yates was given to take in order to control her depression, the doctors prescribed her antidepressants and other drugs. During her trial, her attorney tried to show the court that she was mental ill and should be not guilty by reason of insanity. The trial had a huge controversy deciding whether or not Andrea Yate was mentally ill. According to Texas law in order for a person to be held insane, he or she must have been unable to know that the act the committed was right or wrong. Andrea’s trial had finished an the jury found her guilty, the jury was still deciding whether or not she was to receive the death penalty. After the trial Andrea’s lawyer had did some more research and it seemed that Dr. Dietz had given false information to the jury altering or persuading their guilty verdict. Here one could suggest that a characteristic in this case was cognitive psychology, because the jury minds were manipulated when deciding if Yates was insane or not. The chapter claimed that after interviewing the jurors after the trial, they revealed that they were persuaded by Dietz’s testimony. After this information was leaked and there was no Law and Order episode Yates had another trial where she was not guilty by reason of insanity.
The first article is about second trail, where she was found not guilty for reason of insanity. It talked about the reaction everyone had when Yates’ verdict was read, her ex-husband and his family cried, she hugged her lawyer and the prosecution could not believe it. The one thing I found interesting in this article is Yates was only charged with the deaths of only three of the children, Noah, John and Mary. http://articles.cnn.com/2007-12-11/us/court.archive.yates8_1_russell-rusty-yates-kaylynn-williford-joe-owmby?_s=PM:US
In the second article, this article was published last year marking the 10 year anniversary of the sentencing of Yates. This reporter stated that he had been part of this trial since the beginning. He never missed a court date. He also mentions when the prosecution made their argument they asked everyone to wait for three minutes and after that the told everyone that’s how much time Yates needed to drown each of her children. One thing I learned from this article was Yates’ final sentencing, we have read that she was not guilty for reason of insanity but did not know where she was sent. Yates was sent to a state mental hospital and that is where she remains today. Now her lawyer and a friend say she is doing really well and want to get her released. http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2012/03/10-years-later-the-tragedy-of-andrea-yates/254290/
The final article talks about the first trial; it mentions testimony’s from Rusty Yates, her husband, and Dr. Dietz. One thing new in this article was the prosecutions closing argument. . The article mentions when the prosecution made their argument they asked everyone to wait for three minutes and after that the told everyone that’s how much time Yates needed to drown each of her children. I think this tactic gave the juror time to think about the actions of Yates. He also mention at the end of his argument, he said that Yates told officer that she “killed” her children not that she “saved” them. http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,218445-2,00.html
The Andrea Yates case has always been interesting to me, even though it is a tragic story. When I read chapter 19 in minds on trial there were many facts that I didn’t know about the case. For example I knew that Andrea Yates had post partum depression, but I didn’t realize that her husband pushed her to have more kids, as well as their living situation. I feel that her mental health was pushed aside, and her husband didn’t do what was best for her. She had multiple suicide attempts and she was on antidepressants, but they clearly didn’t work. I also didn’t realize how intense her delusions and hallucinations were when she was in jail. The first article was a narration of the story; I didn’t know that she was so calm and collected when she called her husband. The second article talks about how Andrea is dealing with everything now. The final article is about her kids more specifically.
http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/notorious_murders/women/andrea_yates/index.html
http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2012/03/how-andrea-yates-lives-and-lives-with-herself-a-decade-later/254302/
http://www.oprah.com/omagazine/Andrea-Yates-A-Cry-in-the-Dark
Unquestionably, Andrea Yates was mentally ill. There are many different psychological characteristics involved in this case and in the crimes themselves. For instance, Andrea Yates committed maternal filicide and infanticide which is something that may occur with severely depressed woman and in this case psychotic ones, too. Throughout the reading it describes in detail the many times and different people who diagnosed her multiple times with similar psychological problems as the first. When it comes to psychology and law this is as twisted as it gets and the characteristics just double because of the fact that it is all about whether or not Andrea was competent to stand trial or was insane during the time of the murders. From the several psychiatrists some forensic that evaluated her to simple therapists who got absolutely nothing from her Andrea Yates was depressed and admitted several times that she was having delusions and hearing voices. Because Andrea was diagnosed with postpartum mental disorder, depression, and having psychotic hallucinations that should have been enough for the legal system to identify that she was ill and that there may have been other underlying circumstances to why Andrea Yates did what she did and it had nothing to do with being intentional.
To be totally honest I couldn’t stop googling after my first search. I was fascinated by all the different facts and aspects that I did not read from the chapter 19 and from what I remember about the case. Being a little older and from Texas that I have to admit I remember it well all too well. My first revelation came from the 1st that I listed. It was from a consulting expert for the prosecution in State v. Yates. She was the only legal academic to assist in the first trial. According to the website she observed the trial in its entirety. Her belief just astonished me and it was something that I had not read anywhere else. She believed that Andrea Yates was mentally ill but she consistently argued that Andrea Yates was a victim of psychological and sexual abuse. She killed her children to escape that abuse of her husband.
Secondly, Rusty Yates divorced Andrea during her incarceration in 2004 and remarried in 2006. I found that very interesting too and I began googling about his life as well because of this finding fact in the second website listed.
Finally, that Andrea Yates did not belong in prison because that was what I initially believed before reading all different articles, websites, biography and different evaluations from the different forensic psychologists
http://works.bepress.com/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1000&context=shelby_moore
http://www.biography.com/people/andrea-yates-235801
http://articles.cnn.com/2007-12-11/us/court.archive.yates9_1_andrea-yates-case-psychosis-post-partum-depression?_s=PM:US
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/crime/2012/09/03/exp-ng-snapped-andrea-yates.hln?iref=allsearch
http://murderpedia.org/female.Y/y/yates-andrea.htm
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Andrea Yates
The case of Andrea Yates was by all means, a terrible and horrific event that ended the lives of five innocent children. Not only were lives of these young ones lost, but also a family, and the nation torn. However, there are many psychological factors that lead up to before the death of the Yates children. The first major component was the fact that when Andrea married Rusty Yates they immediately began to have children. After eight years of marriage she already had five children. After her fourth child was born, Andrea’s post-partum depression began to become increasingly worse, leading into sever major depression. Even from a personal perspective, I understand how hard it can be to be home with your children all day, and just feeling absolutely overwhelmed. My mother for instance is a stay at home mom, and she is home all day with three children, one of her own, and two that she babysits all under the age five. My mother does suffer from mild depression, and has been medicated for many years, and has been doing sensational. But in the case of Andrea Yates, it also seemed that she never had the right support to feel that she could overcome her depression. In fact, Andrea had tried to commit suicide twice. Other aspects that influenced Andrea psychologically, not only being home with her children, but also the aspect that she felt alone, that she was alone. From the information that I had gathered from the Minds on Trial, I felt that Andrea had minimal support from her husband. Andrea was a very educated, successful woman, but her husband was the only one that got to go outside the home and work. Lastly, the major component that influenced Andrea Yates’s psychological thought is how in depth with “religion” she was. I’m not sure which what religion her and her husband shared, but the fact that the husband felt the family should live a “simpler” life style, with a four children on a converted bus as a home completely influences the isolation, and loneliness that Andrea Yates felt. Along with that I felt that the “Woronieckis” that Andrea went to, to suppress her loneliness I feel strongly impacted Andrea with feeling guilty, or that the way she was trying to raise her children was wrong, and that she was a bad mother, and that she was making bad children. I don’t blame the Woronieckis couple completely, nor do I completely blame Andrea’s husband Rusty, but I do feel that these people held a portion of responsibility that enabled Andrea’s depression.
When I went to look for more information about the Andrea Yates case I came cross, About.com, Time.com, and Oprah.com. All provided information that I had read about in the Minds on Trial text, along with other information I had not read before. On the About.com website I read that when Andrea and Rusty met at age 25, that the both frequently spent most of their time praying and studying religion. This article also stated that Andrea and her husband told people that they planned to have as many children as nature provided, and once she became pregnant she became isolated from her friends. Andrea referred to herself as “fertile myrtle”. She then began to home-school her children. When the couple moved to Florida, Andrea miscarried, which then lead to the couple embracing the Woroniecki’s ideas. Apparently, Rusty did not agree on everything, but Andrea fully embraced the extremist sermons. Mr. Woroniecki preached “The role of women is derived from the sin of Eve and that bad mothers who are going to hell create bad children who will go to hell.” Next I looked at Time.com website. I read that during the time in court, the jury listened to Andrea Yates’s confession of why she had to kill her children, then looked at the photographs of the bathtub that she drowned her children in, and the bed she laid them on. One of the photographs showed that in the oldest boy’s hand, was some of the Andrea’s hair that he had pulled during the struggle. The article then talked about how Andrea didn’t speak of the “devil” inside her until she was put into a jail cell, completely naked, and put on suicide watch. Andrea spoke how she wanted to kill her children in order for her to be executed and to get rid of the devil. Lastly, I looked at Oprah.com website that was titled, A Cry in the Dark. This article brought up new information about how people thought that Andrea must have drugged her children before she drowned them, because it must be hard to be able to hold down a seven year old boy. However, there was no evidence found that could be used against Andrea Yates. Lastly, this article stated that before the deaths of the five Yates children, Norma Tauriac, a social worker described that Andrea was “unwilling” or “not able to identify any recent life stressors.” And also stated that Rusty was “aware and accepting” of his wife’s problems and was more comfortable calling her condition “postpartum depression”, rather than major depression. It’s strange to think how a husband was so aware of the struggles his wife was having, but yet continued to leave her at home alone, and continue to have children with her in such a short period of time. I feel that much of what fueled Andrea’s major depression was the increase of loneliness, stress with constant isolation from friends and family, stuck at home, and lack of support she felt she had. Cases such as hers are ones that would instantly anger, and upset people. But once you really dig deep into people’s lives, you might have a change of heart, and sympathize.
http://www.oprah.com/omagazine/Andrea-Yates-A-Cry-in-the-Dark/3
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,218445,00.html
http://crime.about.com/od/current/p/andreayates.htm
Andrea Yates, a mother of five boys, high school valedictorian, nurse, and wife to a man who worked at NASA seemed as if she had it all. Lurking however, in the depth of her mind, was a deep seeded mental illness that stemmed from what psychologists thought was a mixture of postpartum depression and religious beliefs. After several attempts at suicide, Yates was hospitalized and diagnosed with severe depression with psychotic features. She was prescribed several different anti-psychotic medications, one of which her husband made sure she took the morning before she killed all of her children. On June 19th, 2001, Andrea Yates drowned each of her five children in a bathtub and then carefully laid them side by side on a bed covering them with a sheet. After killing all five children, Andrea calmly called the police and stated that she had just killed her kids and subsequently was arrested. Days after her arrest, Yates was evaluated by a clinical psychologist to determine her competency to stand trial. Dr. Gerald Harris, the evaluating psychologist, found Yates to be psychotic and also found that she had some problems with attention and concentration. During Andrea’s trial to determine whether or not she was able to understand the court proceedings, she revealed that by being convicted and receiving the death penalty she would be able to kill Satan. Satan was one of the main reasons she believed she needed to kill her children; she wanted to save them from Satan. The delusion about Satan leads her attorneys as well as psychologists to question the matter of insanity at the time of Yate’s crime. The State of Texas’s standard for insanity has been characterized by extremely narrow circumstances and is nearly impossible to meet; you were deemed insane if you were unable to know that the act of committing a crime was wrong. Through Yate’s testimony during trial she expressed that she knew that killing her children was legally wrong however she believed that it was morally right because of her religious delusions.
Psychological aspects to Andrea Yate’s case are associated with clinical, social, developmental and cognitive psychology, as well as, sensation and perception. Andrea Yate’s clinically suffered from depression and psychotic episodes of delusions regarding Satan. She was eventually prescribed antipsychotic medication after several suicide attempts in hopes of altering her perceptions and sensations in everyday life to better her well-being. Socially, her husband Russell influenced her in a way that made her feel as if nothing was wrong and that she should just continue to take her medication and go on with life. He never once suggested that she should be hospitalized or that she should not be left home alone with the kids. There were several people, after the death of Andrea and Russell’s children, which believed that Russell was every bit as much responsible as Andrea. Developmentally Andrea was not always as mentally ill as she was. She attended college, was valedictorian at her high school, was a swimming champion and possessed a degree in Nursing. During the first four years of marriage to Russell she worked full time and didn’t have any associations with mental health issues. It wasn’t until Andrea became a mother, a role that socially, physically, and mentally changed her, that she started declining mentally into a state in which she felt it was necessary to kill her kids.
Links that I found that relate to Andrea Yate’s case are as follows:
1. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2005922/Ten-years-ago-today-Andrea-Yates-drowned-children--freed-end-year.html
2. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrea_Yates#Russell_Yates
3. http://www.chron.com/news/article/Doctor-s-reputation-takes-a-hit-in-Yate-s-1948489.php
The first link is a recap of what Yate’s case was and described what she is doing now. Her lawyer George Parnham, was confident that she would be released after her recommitment hearing in November of 2010 and that she would be able to leave her minimum security mental hospital in Kerrville, TX. It was expected that she would attend a regimen of therapy in a community-based outpatient facility. Parnham states in this article that he thinks that she is no longer a danger to society and that her mental condition is stable. Since Yate’s trial, Parnham and his wife have campaigned for more awareness regarding women’s mental health issues.
The second link, through reading quite a bit regarding the trials as well as background information on Yates, gave me information that I didn’t know about her husband Russell Yates. Russell Yates was advised by Dr. Saeed, before the murder of his children, not to leave Andrea unattended. Weeks before Andrea drowned her children, Russell began leaving her alone for short periods of time hoping to improve her independence. It came out during trial that Russell expressed his views on people with depression as just needing a swift kick in the pants to get them going. It was also suggested before the murders that Andrea quit having kids in 2000. Shortly after being discharged however Andrea became pregnant with their youngest, Mary, and gave birth to her later that year; the murders happened shortly after.
The third link is in regards to Park Dietz, the California doctor whose testimony in the Yate’s case took a big hit. People generally view him as very professional and an unbelievable expert. However during the Yate’s case his reputation definitely took a hit. Dietz mistakenly made a testimony to something that wasn’t true regarding a law and order episode. What I didn’t know was that he has been the center to a lot of very high profile cases such as Jeffery Dahmner, John Hinckley, Ted Kaczynski and more. He has testified in all 50 states and helps develop shows like law and order and different movies.