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The last day of trial was very interesting. As a Juror I went into it with an idea of what my verdict would be but I came out with some totally different. I didn't feel that the murder was premeditated because I believed premeditation to be planning the murder out and thinking of exactly how you were going to do it. However the law states that if you think about it even a second before then you are premeditating it. I believe that for Blake to pull that knife out of his bag he had to be thinking about killing Brionna. There was no evidence stating that he premeditated it otherwise but after the trial we found out that he had confesed to doing so. Which puts my mind at ease as a juror because i know that I made the right decision.
My experience with the last day of trail here was the biggest and most important to me. I was part of the jury and I had the duty of deciding if the defendant was guilty or not. I felt as if us jury members did a good job at deliberating over this case and coming up with a verdict. We didn't just all agree to get out of there, we truly deliberated about what we thought and our ideas on the case. We each spoke our opinions and made sure that we all came to an agreement on the case. We talked about all the different scenarios that he could have done rather then using a knife and that is what really helped us all to come to an agreement. I felt like this mock trail was a wonderful experience and it has really opened my eyes up to the workings and experiences in a courtroom. You don't understand all the time and effort that goes into a case until you participate or become a character of a courtroom. I would love to do something like this again sometime.
I was just like to say again the both sides did a great job! I thought they did a superb job getting into role. I also thought the perp. did an amazing job. You could tell he really got into his character. He made a couple of mistakes, but like was pointed out during our class discussion, confessions happen... So I thought everything that went "wrong" ended up adding another level of authenticity to the project. One interesting comment was from the detectives who made it obvious they were clearly on the prosecution side. I think this situation is often the case in these types of trial, and shines some light on possible biases that can be present during the trial and pretrial events.
Today was the last day of the trial. I was part of the jury and we took a long time to deliberate. It took a lot longer than I thought because all the jurors had so many different opinions and we all had to settle on a unanimous verdict. Finally we voted guilty because of the premeditation (even if it was only for a second). I thought it was interesting that the perpetrator actually confessed to the whole thing but none of us jurors were aware of it-- guess we should have paid more attention to the media.
All in all I think everybody did a great job-- especially the attorneys!
The last day of trial was exciting and dilberation did not take very long. The verdict was guilty and it was really funny to hear the true story behind everything when the trial was over. Such as Blake had planned to kill her so i'm glad that I helped to make the right decision in finding blake guilty or murder. During our dilberation the biggest parts that we focused on was about the knife being so big and excessive force being used to defend himself. One of the other big issues we had was the crime being premeditated. Even if the defendent thought about killing her for a second with the knife then it was premeditated. This trial was very exciting and it is something that I would do again if I had the chance. It was interesting to find out that Blake had confessed to the media that he went to meet the vicitim and kill her. Well even if I would have been nice to see this evidence I did my job by not watching or listening to the media to make sure that my opinion would not be changed. I think that the attorneys did a lot of work and they should be respected for their efforts and making it a very real trial.
I must say I was very pleased with how the last day went for this project. I feel that throughout the entire thing everyone did a great job of playing out their roles. Without the work of each individual/group involved in the case it just wouldn't have been the same. I also give extra kudos to the defense attorney because she was so dedicated and didn't really have a lot to work with in this case. It was pretty interesting to hear how the prosecuting attorney prepared for her role. Gotta love some Law and Order! I must also say how fun it was to get to look behind the scenes at what was going on inside everybody's mind. Of course this isn't something you get in the "real world" and so it was very exciting. It really showed the defense's ability to work on the spot and put something together out of nothing. It also gave us all some insight on what the jury was going through as they deliberated. I just think being able to ask each other questions really helped tie everything back up. It goes without saying how happy I was to hear that he was found guilty of first degree murder. It would have been fun to see what kind of sentence he would get for it. Overall I would have to say that the trial was a success and that no one should be disappointed in how they did. I also have to give out some Kudos in Blake's name. He did a pretty darn good job and it was fun seeing him try and play out this story that had been created for him. I must also point out that it was great working with those who were involved with the police department. I only wish I could have done more. You guys were all fantastic!!
I thought today was really exciting! I loved hearing the guilty verdict! Finally all our hard work paid off! I wasnt completely sure what the jury was going to decide, but I was really happy it was guilty. Both sides did an amazing job!! The defense had a really tough job trying to defend her client with all the evidence against him, but she did a really good job defending him. I really liked finding out about the backstory of how Blake did it and the story behind the defenses descisions. Overall, I thought this experience was awesome. Throughout the whole prcoess, everything just seemed so real; especially the trial. I thought everyone did very well with staying in character and everyone did a very good job with the case! I think we all learned a lot about the different roles and how things don't always go perfectly smooth like they're pertreyed in crime shows.
I am so glad that this is all over! This was one of the most stressful things that I have done in a long time! I thought that Beth did an amazing job with the defense, I consider myself to be pretty adept at 'reading' people, but I honestly had no idea what the jury would come back with, all I could do was present what I thought was relevant and leave it up to the jury. I'm please with the verdict, obviously. This whole thing felt very real, especially the frustration of it all. Overall, I had a really great time with this project. Thanks to everyone who helped me, gave me ideas and insights, and listened when I bounced ideas off of them.
Guilty. Well I can’t say I’m surprised. I would say the moment I realized that I had not adequately presented my reasonable doubt was when Judge Nathan was talking about the meaning of ‘premeditation’ and what it really meant to be guilty. I realized that we had not totally and completely made it self defense. So I would say I agree with the jury’s verdict. It is a relief to have things all wrapped up today was much less stressful, especially with the class discussion at the end. Like Alyssa, I would like to thank everyone who helped the defense, including Alyssa who was a huge help!
Alright.... Now I'm ready for that drink.
I thought the last day of trial went really well. I was glad to see that everyone's hard work paid off! Hats off especially to the Prosecution and Defense Attorneys how they handled a lot of stress and work in such a short amount of time, and did so well with it! I was especially surprised with Blake. I was impressed with how he handled himself and how he got so engrossed with his role in the project. Overall, I loved this project and I wish more classes did something along these lines, I believe you learn more by doing something like this rather than listening to a lecture for an hour and fifteen minutes. Good Job Everyone!
The last day of trial was a good wrap up and i totally agree with the Jurys decision. I would have been pretty shocked if they had come back with a not guilty verdict based on the evidence that i heard in court. I want to say that both sides did an excellent job and it was obvious that they spent a lot of time on their roles and it really showed. I thought the trial was a great way to learn hands on about the law instead of learning from straight lecture. Seeing everyone come into their different roles was really cool.
Day three of trial finally came!! I felt very relieved to hear a guilty verdict from the jury--I would have been very surprised to hear not guilty. I thought the discussion afterwards was pretty interesting as well. I was really shocked that not a single jury member looked at the media blog recently and therefore had no idea the media had taken a picture of Blake's confession that was previously thrown out of court. I think the jury members were happy with their decision maybe even more so after they found out that Blake had confessed to going to the Union to kill Brionna which would be considered first degree murder. I thought the defense did an excellent job thinking on the fly and coming up with a story line. I was personally sold on the roommate coming in to testify which turned out to be one of Beth's good friends...I didn't even think to question it because he had all the right answers. Overall, the project was a great experience for me and I hope next years class has as much fun as I did!
I didn't think I would be nervous about the verdict until I came back and found out the jury had reached one. I wasn't surprised that Blake was found guilty, although I thought he might be guilty in the second degree or not guilty by reason of self-defense (probably because I helped the defense). However, after hearing Blake admit that he planned to kill Brianna, I was glad the jury came to the decision they came to. I have to admit I am really glad I didn't decide to be a juror. I think I would have had a much harder time coming up with a verdict. I also, like just about everyone else here, give huge props to the attorneys. I also thought the police department did an amazing job in getting that confession out of Blake. I must also say that I thought jury instruction took forever and was boring to listen to.... however, this was totally NOT the judge's fault. He actually read pretty quickly through it. It did make me wonder if a judge ever memorized any parts of the jury instructions. The debriefing at the end was great, and it's too bad it can't happen in real crimes. I hope that I'll be able to help participate in this next semester; I enjoyed it so much this time around!
The final day went pretty much how I imagined it would. I'm surprised how quickly the Jury deliberated. I think Beth had a really difficult job concerning the circumstances of Blake (confession, knife submitted, testimony iffy), not to mention playing a man (chick) down. Well done Beth!
The Alyssas did extraordinarily well compiling a very convincing case and I think the verdict proved this. In the future, I think if there were multiple victims (2 would even be sufficient) there would be a lot more involvement. Twice the CSI, twice the investigation, twice the coverage, twice the fun! But seriously, it seemed like the murder happened and then (with the exception of a few roles) everyone laid low for over a month.
Overall, great experience, very exhilarating, and will never look at crime/court dramas the same way again; would have loved to spend another few days in court!
The last day of trial was really good! As a member of the jury the deliberation went really well! We had a great discussion and we all came to the same conclusion that Blake was guilty of first degree murder. After the sentencing we discussed the case and project which was really cool to see what everyone thought. It was interesting to hear Blake talk about the case and things he had messed up on, but this would really happen in the real world. It was also interesting to hear the attorneys discuss the work that they put in to the project. They did a really great job preparing, and it was displayed well throughout the trial. This was overall a really great experience, I learned a lot about the way a court works and everything that goes into it. It really tied everything we had learned in class really well.
I really enjoyed the last day of trial. Deliberation was somewhat short and I loved the discussion afterward to see what everyone thought about the trial and their roles. It seemed very realistic overall and the experience of seeing this whole murder play out will be unforgetable. It was interesting to hear about all of the attorneys thoughts and how they just came up with things out of thin air. They did a really good job at researching thier roles and getting into their parts. I thought the defense had an extremely hard case to prove, seeing as Blake confessed to the crime and turned in the weapon, but she did a really good job! The prosecution was really well prepared and did a very good job at getting their point across.
I really enjoyed our discussion at the end of class to hear what everyone thought. I found it very interesting to hear Blake's thoughts on what he made up on the spot and how he felt about the whole thing. It was very cool just to hear the little msitakes of the attorneys and the police department and how well they covered them. I really enjoyed this hands on experience and overall really enjoyed the class and I hope that next year is just as much fun!
Day 3 down. I was a tad disappointed that the verdict was guilty. I say this only because I realized the terribly hard time that Beth had with the defense and I thought that she did a great job with what she was given. Alyssa rocked the prosecution job, but I thought that the underdog story was inspiring. :P Apart from the inspiring story, the jury made the right call, and the trial was epic. I felt as though the judge stole the show though. He had a sense of wit and charm about him that was just irresistible to deny. As the judge it was nice to be looked upon as a figure of reverence, with a sort of power. I felt as though everyone did a great job with the case. Blake was a very good murderer/victim that played his role very well. I would love to participate in this activity again in the future, only this time as the perp. I felt as thought Blake probably had the most fun out of everyone in this activity, and for good reason. Touche to everyone for the entire trial as a whole. Now for the drinks!
This whole mock trial and crime situation has been wonderful. I had a lot of fun and felt like I learned a lot as well. This last day went well, the jury was right on in finding him guilty and the deliberation seemed to have gone well. The discussion/q&a after was really good, too. We got to find out other aspects of the case we hadn't known before and see behind the scenes. Basically just a great experience that I would love to be part of again, just not in a real life situation! Even as a mock trial everyone was so into their parts, there was a lot of expectation and emotion involved. Good job to everyone!
The mock trial experience has been fun. i learned a lot from the mock trial. I went in thinking he was completely innocent due to the evidence...but the more i thought about it the guitltier he seemed. The main point was who would carry a knife around campus that they would not intend to use. It was a great experience that got everyone involved into their parts.
The last day of trial was interesting. I was on the jury and hearing everything i had my mind made up that the defendent was guilty. But after hearing the deliberation of some of the jurors it made me think more critically. But if someone doesnt oppose you it doesnt make you dont think critically. But, all of the evidence points towards a first degree murder. It was pre-meditated, so therefore counts as 1st degree.
I was part of the conviction of the murder. As the jury i feel it is my obligation to explain why i chose guilty. There was no clear reason to have that kind of knife. He obviously had intent when he reached into his bag and grabbed the knife before stabbing the victim.
What a suspensful day. Well at first it was a little dull when the judge was reading the instructions to the jury on how they should deliberate. That was a lot of reading...well done judge. When the jury called us back into the courtroom to deliberate, I was sure they would find the defendant guilty. Sure, I might be biased since I was an eyewitness and actually saw the defendant committ the crime, but I still thought that the jury's decision wasn't too tough. Alyssa was amazing and yes, a little scary at times which made her all the more better at being a prosecutor. Beth did an awesome job as well. I really thought that she would have absolutely no case (especially now that I know the defendant confessed), but she really surprised me. Oh man, and way to go with that closing statement. Being one of the lawyers would have been tough; they did a ton of work and were both great. Anyway, I couldn't help but laugh when I found out that they defendant not only confessed, he wrote it that he was going there to kill her, and that he willingly gave Alyssa his weapon. She must have just asked too nicely. Plus, it took him a while to ask for a lawyer. But I guess thing like that happen all the time in real life. The best part of day three was asking questions. It was a good day and I didn't even realize we were there for the whole hour and a half.
Day three of trial was pretty much what I thought it was going to be. I figured he'd be found guilty of 1st degree murder, it was just a matter of time! But overall, I thought it was fun. It was nice to have questions at end because it cleared up some thoughts I've had floating around all semester. So many funny things, though! Regardless of the many "mistakes" the students had claimed they made - it was an awesome trial! If no one would have brought up the mistakes, I don't think I would have noticed half of them. Anyway, I want to commend Beth for her amazing work! She didn't have much to go off of, but I don't think that wasn't apparent to the rest of us. She really made a great case! And to Alyssa as well. I had no idea she was extremely sick last Thursday during Day 2, but she pulled it off very nicely!
I was rather nervous while waiting for the jury to come back with their verdict especially after listening to the jury instructions which in many places could have swayed the outcome. It was very exciting to hear that the prosecution had won, it was like a giant pat on the back for the work that the police department put into finding the perpetrator. Personally I'm thrilled we got the right guy in the first place, but winning the case was the icing on the cake for the project. I must commend the defense on building a pretty solid case with not much to work with and very little time it was truly interesting to watch the whole thing.
This day was probably the least interesting day of court for me. At the beginning it was pretty dull when the judge was reading the instructions to the jury. Then we all had to leave for around 40 minutes while the jury deliberated. I was sitting outside the courtroom during this time and found it kind of cool that I could watch the jury talk and figure out the verdict. This made it very suspenseful. I personally thought the defendant was guilty but of course couldn't tell if the jury would think so or not while they deliberated. But when they delivered the verdict of guilty I was very pleased. I thought both of the attorneys did an amazing job. They stayed so much in character throughout the whole trial that they were completely convincing. I never really thought before about how much work they had put into it until afterwards when everyone was asking questions. It sounded like there were definitely some mistakes made, or things that typically wouldn't be made in a regular case and trial. But still it all went really smoothly. For the most part. Before this project I never really understood how much work goes into a trial.
This day was interesting when the jury read their verdict, but until that point to was really boring. When the judge had to read all that to the jury, it kind of made me wonder if jurys ever are able to pay attention the whole time, but if you do it had a lot of important information. I think the verdict of murder one was expected, but I still think that the defense did a really good job considering all the work she had to do after her client sort of gave everything up.
I thought the last day of trial was very intersting. I would have loved to be able to hear the jury deliberate, because I think everyone was taking this case really seriously making the decision fairly difficult. I was very pleased to hear that the State had come out victorious, and that the defendant was indeed the murderer of the victim.
I also thought the Q&A was fun because it was interesting to hear a little bit about what all the different roles people did. I know for a fact I never could have been a lawyer, both because I wouldn't have had the time to do the amazing work these lawyers did, and because I would have been absolutely terrified to get up in front of the class and present a case. I was in mock trial in middle school and I was nothing but a bundle of nerves.
Reflection Eternal:
Memoirs of a Judge
Some time ago, back when I was a tad younger, a woman came to me and said, “Hey, I noticed you had a knack for thinking logically and that others seem to look up to you and respect you. Have you ever thought of going into the judicial field?” I remember this day very well. It was the last time that I felt as if I was confused about my life. For the next semester of my college career, I was hailed as a prodigy in the judicial field, having seemingly bypassed every major stepping stone in an aspiring judge’s career. Apparently, someone had the faith in me to thrust me, immediately, into the Honorable position. Over the course of the aforementioned semester, I banged out a few smaller cases; guilty and a couple pleas for lesser sentencing. It was a grueling half year, I wouldn’t lie about that. However, later on that year, a trial appeared in front of me: Murder One. This is, in its own right, the single most frightful and exciting case to be presented to a young judge. If it goes well, I’m a hero. They'll say, “Judge Dahlhauser, that guy can preside over a court.” If it goes bad, however, my career could be over. In any event, I had no choice in the matter and I prayed every night that it would go smoothly. I won’t go into much detail about the details of the crime and trial at this time, but I will say that he was found guilty, and rightly so. I was in awe watching the attorneys dancing to the sound of justice. It appeared clear who was leading the other, then it would switch and you would wonder why you ever thought that the other was leading, only to have it be flipped again. I had seen attorneys work before, in prior cases, but never like this. They were so impassioned. They were caught up in their work, and neither appeared to have any interest in the well-being of the other. Outside of court, however, was a different story. Seemingly best friends laying out enough, but not too much, of their own cases, helping one another, making slight of the crime or the defendant at hand; they were professionals, and it was clear. The trial, naturally, was a grueling process and it was stressful for all involved. I found myself leaving the courthouse on any given day with a desire to drink the night, and the terrible images in my head, away. I would think to myself, “Six years sober and this job is going to drag me back in.” I would visit my sponsor regularly and voice my fears to her. The more I thought about it and the longer it went on, the more I felt as though, for my own sake and that of my wife and children, I needed out. I voiced this to my Honorable Superior, but they insisted that I had shown promise and would like to see me through this one. He told me that if I could make it through this trial, (one in which he called the “Breaking Trial”) then I would have a better idea as to what I really wanted. I think he was full of shit, not wanting to take the trial himself. Regardless, I obliged. By the end of the trial, my mindset had been altered only slightly. The verdict was a relief and I felt pride in knowing that I had been a piece to the puzzle that put away a vicious murderer. The pride wore off, however, and I realized that this could not continue, or risk alienating and eventually losing my family. As I sat at that bench, reveling in knowing the world was a tad safer tonight, I looked out over the emptying courtroom. The defendant had been taken away. The attorneys were back to laughing and carrying on with the media and the others that had attended court that day. I knew that this would be the last time.
That day was the last that I ever took part in the judicial process. I have attended court a few times since, but only to enjoy the clever wordplay and ballet of the attorneys at hand. Every time, I stay in the courtroom after everyone has left and just gaze with a loving smile at that bench, once my bench, and know that I went out on top.
- Nathan Dahlhauser
Reflection Temporary
Memoirs Of A Geisha:
Once upon a time, when I was a naive young lady, my heart broke when I thought about all the injustice in the world. When I thought about all the innocent men who have been incarcerated and murdered. I made a vow to myself. This is how I would change the world. This is how I would make a difference, and when I leave this Earth, people will say "wow. She was fabulous."
To achieve this dream I went to the one woman I knew could help. "Kim, Kim MacLin" I said. "Kim I want to save the world. I want to make sure that no further injustice is served to great men like Charles Manson, Ted Bundy, Christian Bale, and Steve from Blues Clues. Kim I want to save them"
Kim Helped.
When I received a case, clearly a self defense case I dove in. My client was hypnotized and convinced that he did it. It was a calamity. A great judge once said that lawyers "dance to the tune of justice." and dance we did.
However, this is when the REAL tragedy struck. While dancing a particularly difficult waltz with Mrs. Nolte, I realized something. And as i realized this my world fell down around me. I could feel the sky falling, along with my heart- right into my stomach.
After a complicated procedure to replace my heart in its proper place, I was able to process this information.
It was I that was hypnotized.
These men were guilty.
This realization came as the Honorable Judge read his well thought out definition of "Guilty"
And then I knew.
My heart literally broke that day, and my dreams came crashing down. But tonight will be different. Tonight, I will take shots for my fallen comrades. And these shots will be to a tune, just like the dance I once did in the place where justice is served... "Shots."