
For this assignment, listen to the full shows of the This American Life episodes #487 & #488 called Harper High School Parts 1 & 2. If you have a smartphone or tablet, the easiest way to listen to this, and all the other radio shows for the class, is to download the This American Life app. Once you have the app you can quickly find shows (by title or episode number) and listen right then and there. You can also go to the website www.thisamericanlife.org and search on episode number. I've found it for you here: http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/487/harper-high-school-part-one and http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/488/harper-high-school-part-two click on launch player and listen to the show.How did these episodes make you feel? According to what you know about scientific aspects of social psychology as presented in your textbook, which social psychological principles are operating at this school and in this community?
Provide the psychology terms you used in your response at the bottom of your comment.
This article was very shocking and sad. It’s hard to believe that 29 kids were shot at and 8 of them died without even making that big of news. I feel really bad for the staff at Harper High School because they are trying so hard to fix their schools, but as soon as it starts to get a little better, something bad happens again. My impressions after listening to these episodes was that the school is not the problem, the community is. The principal and counselors really want to help these students and truly believe that they are not bad kids, but don’t even get the chance to show it. I was very upset at the end to hear that they are losing 1.6 million dollars of turn around money. This money they desperately need in order to fix their problem with gangs and shootings. I can’t imagine what those students go through everyday that witnessed their friends die and get shot. I think that the homecoming game and dance is very important to the students and that having it is necessary for the school to move forward and have some type of normal life.
Throughout these two episodes I noticed many social psychological principles operating this school and community. One principle is social norms. Social norms are expected standards of conduct which influence behavior. At the beginning of the episode they talked about how Harper High School was a normal high school. The freshmen were nervous and the seniors were confident the first few days of school. The first day consisted of a pep rally, rules and introductions. The only thing that was not a social norm was a moment of silence to remember the ones they lost the past year from gang related shootings. One of the main aspects presented in these episodes were how people let others influence them. These students that were apart of gangs were forced to retaliate in order to protect their gang. This can be known as compliance. It is the tendency to agree to do things requested by others. These gang members altered their own behaviors and opinions to match those of others or to match other people’s expectations, also known as conformity. I thought it was interesting how many students on the football team were apart of different gangs, but were able to work together as a team to play the game. This is similar to deindividuation, where people are not self-aware and therefore are not paying attention to their personal standards. There were also many stereotypes. One student described that they often had guns pointed at them as a threat because some gangs thought they were part of another gang all because of where they lived and that they looked of age, when really they didn’t belong to a gang at all. This same student talk about how even though some teachers, parents, and police knew what was going on they never tried to stop it. So these students were forced to “fight fire with fire” and were driven by fear. These teachers, parents and police officers can be accused of bystander apathy, which is the failure to offer help to people in need. Devonte, a student who accidently shot his brother, said he could tell his sister, mom and classmates didn’t care about him anymore because of their facial expressions and body language. There term ‘thin slices of behavior’ descries how having a few seconds to read body language can provide sufficient cues for us to form general impression about people. One of the principles not operating at this school is obeying authority figures. The students in the gangs obviously do not care about obeying the police who are the main authority figures in a community. They are not afraid of their consequences because they instead obey their promises to their gang. I really hope things change at this high school and in their community.
Psychological Terms: social norms, authority, obedience, bystander apathy, facial expressions, body language, deindividuation, conformity, stereotypes, compliance,
All of this is crazy to me as I am from northwest Iowa from a little farm town. Everyone is friendly and there are no gangs, or any mentioning of a gang. There are no shootings ever. But the start of the episode talks about how there are numerous shootings. Gangs are nearly impossible to avoid, and usually you have no choice. They cannot walk around without friends, because it is extremely dangerous. However you are also not supposed to walk with other friends. This was mind boggling. The students at Harper high school have a list of rules they follow to stay as safe as possible. I could never imagine growing up in this environment. The stress of just surviving with this danger would be enough to drive me crazy. So many stimuli to create conditional responses. As a gun is shot, which apparently happens daily there, I would flinch and contemplate running for cover. However, that is another rule there, do not run when being shot at. As the kids grow up they learn through modeling. It may be from what is going on outside, and the danger that they face each day. The principle and other people in the school system are trying to change that, as they try to change that. Hoping that there is something that can do to keep them safe and grow up and get out of the area. They encourage them and show each individual student that they care, as they get to know each one and what they're going through. There is a lot of stereotype threats as everyone is scared of someone. They see something or hear something that may be dangerous and judge it to be bad and they get scared. Referring back to stress, what many of us consider a major life stressor, these people are used to. That being said, the shootings and muggings could almost be considered a daily hassle stressor to me. This means that its just a small disruption on a daily basis. Their stress responses are no doubt extremely different. I could not imagine being shot at and being able to stay moderately calm. The fight or flight response may be triggered more often in this area. That will definitely add up to give the people a higher risk of health problems. The principle uses positive psychology to try to change their outlook on life. The amount of prejudice and discrimination that occurs between gangs just because they don’t like each other for no reason is ridiculous. I believe a large portion of the kids perform self-fulfilling prophecy. For this the people act in ways that others expect them to act. It would be very beneficial to help change the kids attitudes. The principle is trying to do this as well. One of my favorite terms from the social psychology chapter is deindividuation. An individual is more likely to do something and care less about if they are doing it if others are as well. This is something that I assume can be observed in gangs. I doubt a person is just as likely to go to a shooting without his friends than with. It helps to have backup and support from others. With more people you are less likely to care about your individual self. The social norm is just to be in a gang and follow their rules. Like I stated in the beginning, this is a completely different world than I grew up in. It is mind boggling to even hear these tragic stories. How can they still have hope after they have been through so much? Either way, what the principle is doing to help them out is awesome. I wish there were more people in the world like her.
terms: stress, conditional response, stimuli, modeling, stereotype threats, stereotypes, stressors, major life stressors, daily hassle, stress response, fight or flight response, positive psychology, prejudice, discrimination, self-fulfilling prophecy, attitudes, deindividuation, social norm
Right off of the bat I felt sad while listening to this podcast. The staff member mentions that three current students were shot and it was said that twenty-one former students were shot that year. She tries to hold a moment of silence, a reasonable request of the students, but many of them don’t quite down. I think this might be because the social norm is to ignore authority figures, or they the students are deindividualized. The student are all part of the large assembly, so maybe they don’t feel as responsible for their actions. There is also mention on how if that number of shootings happened at a more upper class school that the school would be national news. This too doesn’t make me feel good. The whole situation sound a lot like discrimination to me. It really just isn’t fair or just at all. I think in America and American media there is a prejudice against minorities and low income peoples. That the reason for the discrimination.
When we meet the assistant principal he talk to a new student associated with a gang. I never did realize this until now, but gangs are just an extreme form of ingroups and outgroups. Most of the time I think the gang members only have location as a common factor. That is what separates them from the kids down the block after all. So just by social exposure the kids are put into gang. Knowing it or not when they move into a house on a certain block the kids are expected become member of the gang that runs that particular area. It is simply the culture. I think it is a pretty bad situation when even the police department acknowledges the fact that nothing can be done about having to join a gang. It is sort of gross to think of. The whole community has been conditioned to think that gangs are normal and that there is nothing wrong with them. This leads kids into a bad self-fulfilling prophecy. Kids involved in that type of thing become accustomed to that type of life style. They learn to believe that that is all there life will be throughout the years.
The rules really confuse me. One states that you should never walk alone. The very next one says not to walk with others because it highlights affiliation and make you a vulnerable target. This has to be a source of some major cognitive dissonance. These two ideas are exact opposite yet the students try to follow through with both.
Facial expressions and thin slices of behavior are really demonstrated by Devonte. He was the one that had accidently shot his brother. He had a sad face all of the time. His voice was muffled and inward. On the other hand the principal had the opposite features. Almost everything that came out of her mouth was positive. Even when a student said the only positive thing about his summer was that he stayed safe she was overly joyed by the news.
terms used: individuation, social norms, discrimination, prejudice, ingroups, outgroups, social exposure, conditioning, self-fulfilling prophecy, cognitive dissonance, facial expression, thin slices of behavior.
The first episode was a surprise to me, I had never thought about the fear that some kids have face everyday going to school. How some kids don’t want to go back to some schools because they don’t feel safe. I have never had to worry about this because I attended a small school in small town Iowa. I never knew the extent of the gang wars. There is no neutral anymore, if you are not part of one gang, it’s like you are against them. It doesn’t matter if you want to be in a gang, it matters where you live. Whatever street you live on determines which gang you are a part of whether you like it or not. It made me feel bad for all of these kids who have to wake up and deal with this 365 days a year. What also hit me is when they said no one is safe. You can walk alone but then you run the risk of getting jumped. You can walk with someone then it looks like you are in a gang. It’s a lose lose situation for everyone involved.
The second episode also had an impact on me. 82% of murders in Chicago take place in public places. The amount of things that these kids see is heartbreaking. These kids have a lot to deal with and I could not imagine all of the stress they are under. Nowhere they go are safe, not even the school. I believe that these kids just need someone there for them , someone who will listen and support them. That is why Thomas always visits Anita. He may not always seem like he likes her, but he has to if he always comes to visit whenever she is at the school. I feel like Anita will always be there for Thomas and that’s what makes him feel comfortable.
Both of these radio shows largely relate to the chapter on social psychology. Social norms are standards of conduct that influences behavior. In places like this in Chicago, I feel like the social norms are gangs. Everyone is in a gang. Conformity which is changing your behavior to match other peoples expectations has a big impact on gangs. Like what was mentioned before, not everyone wants to be in gangs, however, you have no choice. These kids just conform to the their gangs because they have no other choice. I believe compliance runs the gang. From what I learned from this show, people just comply to the higher up in their gangs. The comply just not to get in in more trouble themselves. Obedience is very similar to compliance and everyone in the gangs are obedient to the person higher then them.
Terms: Social norm, conformity, compliance, obedience
Harper High School blog response
This is tragic, the fact that people have to live in such fear is so sad. It just goes to show, that even within the United States an area really does affect the social norms. At this high school in Chicago, gangs are something that has become unavoidable. Even the teachers and the police officers understand that kids have very little choice in whether they are in a gang or not. They said that you were basically in the gang if you lived within a certain area. The one high schooler, which refuses to be in a gang and not conform to the social norms, has to watch his back all the time. He cannot go outside, because it is so unsafe for him because he is such a target for not being in a gang.
The kids of Harper, as well as the staff are scared. The teachers have no power over what happens, they can only try to get through to the kids, and try to make the violence stop. They hear and talk to the students to try getting news of what is happening, but in many situations, even if they know what will happen, they are powerless to stop it. I feel like the facility and students have started to develop learned helplessness. We see one teacher break down because for her own safety she must leave the school early, and she feels terrible for the students left behind. She’s also upset because she knows the violence is building up and that somebody is going to get hurt but she is powerless to stop it.
An observation that I made is that these students don’t seem to have viable motivation for all these shooting and killings, yet they continue to do them, on the show they talk about how many times it is something petty that starts a fight, and after a spark is ignited, gang wars can continue back and fourth for a long time. So why do they continue to risk their lives and do bad things over such petty subjects? I think this goes back to social psychology. They are in group settings, and have different social norms and this causes them to not think properly and do that thing that are terrible. There social norms is already what they are used to, but add deindividuation into the mix and these students find themselves really losing a sense of who they are, as well as the standards they have for themselves. Another thing is that for them, conforming is not just trying to fit it; it’s a way of survival.
Going from this, if we believe in Maslow’s Hierarchy of needs, they are unable to be normal teenagers. Most may have their bodily needs covered, but that’s where it stops. According to Maslow’s theory, since they are worried about their safety and security, they don’t have a ton of time to be healthy, make friends, or improve them. The boy who was not part of a gang said that he wished he had friends, but in that area, it probably would’ve been too dangerous to be friends with someone like him. It could be dangerous and heart breaking to be friends with anyone actually because there is a definite possibility that they could get shot, or into a fight with someone, which would cause them to shoot down your friend and whoever is with him.
Terms: Social Norms, Learned Helplessness, Motivation, Social Psychology, Deindividuation, Maslow’s Hierarchy,
The people who live in this type of environment are stronger than most people who live in my environment. There are no words to express the emotions I felt while listening to these podcasts. Their world is so different from what I see every day. Harper school’s faculty and students are trying really hard to make it better, most of the students who attend the school are nice kids who are just trying to survive, a lot of that has to do with fundamental attribution error. The kids try and act tough in their gang, but really they are just people trying to stay out of trouble. We stereotype everyone, and when we see someone from a specific area we tend to think of the stereotypes before we get to know them. Sometimes a person may act a certain way so that the rest of the people they hang out with won’t discriminate them or make prejudices against them. It’s called the self-fulfilling prophecy. The mere exposer effect also does not help with behavior, when you have lived in a certain environment your whole life, it tends to create certain behaviors that are hard to get rid of. The people who talk to the students about their problems are trying to help them, and while talking to them the students are unknowingly persuaded to change. A lot of the new behavior unfortunately comes after it is needed, and after someone has witnessed something extremely graphic and horrible. Many of the students comply with their environmental influences, even though deep down they are good people and really never would have done that if they were in a different environment.
The terms I used was: fundamental attribution error, stereotype, discriminate, prejudice, self-fulfilling prophecy, persuasion, compliance.
This American Life episode was very informative about gangs and how they actually are in some parts of the world. Where I grew up I never thought stuff like this actually happened, the number of gangs, how young the kids were, the fact that every kid in a gang had a fun, and how strict the rules were. I’m from Dubuque, Iowa which is only three hours away from Chicago and i had no idea things were this bad. The fact that you could move into a house and automatically that determined what gang you would be apart of, you had no option but to be in one of these gangs so you're automatically sentenced to a life in fear. I really liked the part of the american life episode where they talked about the lady named Crystal. She would walk around and let people know how important they are and say cliche nice things to all the people at Harper. The counselors and social workers really wanted to improve the living conditions, It’s so sad that things got this bad.
One of the terms used in the book that is relevant in this American Life episode is stereotyping. The principal called the young african student in to find out what kind of gang he lived in. What led him to believe he was in a gang? The way the neighborhood that the boy lived in was set up so whichever block you lived on decided which gang you were in. Another term I noticed was social norms, the different cliques have different rules. The gangs had rules like, don’t walk alone, don’t walk on the sidewalk, if they shoot; don’t run, don’t go outside, and plenty more. Social norms can be different throughout any society and in this case for their own safety. Compliance and conformity is also relevant in this situation because if you disagree with somebody or refuse to do something, this can lead to being hurt; even shot. With conformity you must change yourself to fit into whatever block you live on and you must follow the rules, otherwise you may end up hurt. Obedience is extremely relevant in this story as well due to that fact that, again, they must follow the rules of the head of their block otherwise you will end up hurt; no matter how big or small the incident you did. With these gangs you also notice aggression; these young kids are fighting each other and shooting people for the simplest reasons such as saying something to the wrong person or giving the wrong facial expression. Prejudice is shown between the different gangs, they all have negative thoughts towards each other and it is considered wrong to associate with people of the other gangs. Social facilitation can be noted when there is more people around in a group setting things can get more aggressive, this can be risky behavior so it would enhance people to be safer and stay armed. With the story about devante, after he accidentally shoots his brother I noticed deindividuation. He has trouble sleeping, he looks at pictures of his brother every night, does not really focus on himself.
Terms: stereotyping, social norms, compliance, conformity, obedience, aggression, prejudice, facial expression, social facilitation, deindividuation
Jacob Clark
psych
11-4-14
Harper high school
The first thing that came to my mind when i saw the question “how does this make you feel”, was the concept of being a victim of circumstance. If you know anything about me, i am very gung ho about taking responsibility for the direction of your life. But these kids that grow up in these inner city areas, they honestly don't seem to have much say. Granted, i still think given their unfortunate circumstances, that they can rise above it and move forward with their lives in a productive manner. Having said that, Their geographical location isn't doing them any favors. Just as well, being a white kid born in the midwest, i don't feel i have the right to make assumptions about someone growing up with the hardship of living in inner city chicago.
Of the social aspects in the textbook, i believe the show about harper high hit all sections of chapter 11. However, what stuck out to me most was its connection to 11.3: How do other people affect us. The whole concept of “gangs” and the the negatives associated with them occur because of the nature of social psychology. Some standout principles are social facilitation, social loafing, and deindividuation. Obviously when you're surrounded by a group of your friends you conform and behave in a certain way that you know is deemed acceptable to them. That illustrates social facilitation. Just as well when you're in a group, you feel the responsibility does not fall entirely on you, and are therefore capable of some pretty twisted stuff. This is the principle of social loafing. Also, deindividuation can occur when you lose your sense of self to the group you are with. Again, people have done some horrible things when stripped of their standards.
I had some thoughts that connected the radio show to section 11.2 as well. I hear these stories about high school kids that appear to be shy, timid, unambitious, narcissistic, etc. Chapter 11.2 states that our attitudes are shaped by experiences. If their experiences are pre determined, ie. living in inner city chicago, are their lackluster attitudes a characteristic of circumstance outside their control? I am very torn on this idea. It just so happens to be a direct contradictory to what i believe. Makes it all the more interesting i suppose.
Terms: Social Psych, social facilitation, social loafing, deindividuation, conform, attitude.
This week’s radio post was about Harper High School and the many gangs consuming their students’ lives. I thought the stories in the two posts were incredibly shocking as well as heartbreaking. The fact that this school has several teen gangs, countless shootings within the neighborhood, and so many students with mental problems, is hard to wrap my mind around. The way these students are growing up is completely different from my experience being raised. I was raised in a small town just mentioned as one of the safest places to live in Iowa and I can’t imagine seeing someone being shot in my own front yard, like many of the teens in this story have.
There are many aspects from chapter eleven and social psychology that are seen within the context at this school. Many social norms and stereotypes were seen throughout the entire show. The stereotype is that these because these kids are in a gang, they are horrible people, which isn’t true. These kids have no control over whether they are in a gang or not. Many of the students undergo many mental problems from the situations they are put into everyday. The town’s culture creates these stereotypes. Almost every kid in the school system is in a gang and each gang has rules. Some of these rules include not walking alone, not walking in groups, not walking on the sidewalk, etc. These are rules or social norms. The gang activity is a social norm in general, for this town as well as many neighboring towns. People driving in cars know to go slow because kids will be walking in the middle of the street because they aren’t suppose to walk on the sidewalk. Everyone in town, teachers, police offices, parents, and many others know that the gang activity is happing, and can’t do anything to stop it. The violence, aggression, and shootings are completely normal for this town; they expect it to happen. Everyone lives in a constant state of fear because they know something horrible is going to happen next, but don’t know when, where, or to who.
If your mom got a job in this town, bought a new house, and enrolled you in school, you would be in a gang. You have no control over what gang you are in or whether you participate or not. This is like cognitive dissonance. This is when you have an uncomfortable mental state due to a contradiction between two attitudes or between an attitude and a behavior. If you don’t want to be in a gang and think gangs are horrible, but you participate in one, this is cognitive dissonance. These kids are not choosing to be in these gangs, but there is still a mental state in which they do not want to be in, which is conflicting. I think obedience also works into this. Because these kids live in a community where gangs rule, they must be obey them, if they want to live. Everyone knows, if you go against the gang, you will be shot, another social norm.
One of the most interesting parts of this chapter was the story about the homecoming game and dance. Because there were multiple shootings, they were thinking about cancelling the two events. If there had been a shooting anywhere near my school, it would have been on lockdown and the two events would have been cancelled immediately. This kind of thing happens regularly for this community and instead of taking these things away, they really have to think about the students and how much they want to have normal lives. I thought it was interesting that the school has to plan and work around shootings. This town is consumed with gang activity and violence and the social aspect of the community needs help.
Psych Terms: social psychology, stereotypes, social norms, aggression, cognitive dissonance, attitude, obedience
While listening to this, I was just really shocked. I couldn’t believe that that many people died and were injured and it wasn’t even broadcasted on the news to be that big of news to the world. But really, it’s not their school that is a bad thing, it’s the community that their school is in. It is in a very bad community that contains a lot of gangs, which then leads to a lot of violence. Being a witness of a shooting like in a school or in a mall has always been a fear of mine. You never know what kind of crazy people are out there these days, and lately, shootings have been more and more common around the country, which is really sad to say. But on the news, there has been a lot of school related shootings, and also threats set to the school. I just couldn’t imagine having to go through that, and I couldn’t imagine being a part of that community and witnessing your friends get killed right in front of you, and having to live with that the rest of your life.
A major social psychological principle used in these two episodes was a term called compliance. This is where you agree to do things requested by others. So if you want to be a member of the gang there and to be able to stay in the group, then you are required to do what the gang members say, or else you’ll be kicked out of the group. Which could be a reason why gang members, and violence rates are increasing, because people are doing what other people tell them to do just so they can stay in their “group.” Another factor would be a term called prosocial, which is acting in ways that tend to benefit others. This could also tie into being a part of a gang, and wanting to do what they say just to please them to stay in the group. Lastly, another term that could be used is altruism. This is the act of providing help when it is needed, with no apparent reward for doing so. This is a major help when it comes to a community that has a lot of gangs and violence. The community needs people to step in and help those who are in trouble, not because of a reward, but because that is the right thing to do, and because it is one step closer to putting their community into the right direction.
Psychological terms: compliance, prosocial, altruism
Right at the beginning it took me off guard that there were 29 students that were shot. I live in Waverly, Iowa where the population is about 10,000 people. In my high we loose at least 1 person every year so i was able to relate. But i am not used to school shootings. I only hear about them on the news and not actually experience them personally, but i am glad that i never had had too. I think that it doesn't matter who you are listening to this has to touch you in someway. Something that also stood out to me was that the narrator made a comment about how in old schools this would be national new. But this is a Chicago school so it is excepted and people don't really think about it. Gangs are so prevalent there you honestly expect this to happen on the daily without thinking twice. Its weird because from where i am from a town where there isn't gangs so to me this touches me even more people i feel for these people so much. It really touched me that administrators pick up kids before school just so that they feel same.
This school shows many things from chapter 11 like stereotyping. People think that just because you are from Chicago you are in a gang, carry a gun, and do drugs. When in a lot of the cases that isn't true at all. People say you're obviously in a gang because you’re black and from Chicago that means you're a terrible person. The kids that are in gangs do have social norms or rules. Like sticking together, don’t go out alone, walk with someone to school. In Chicago this is their social norm.
The motivation is present and not present hear. The staff and community members are motivated to stop violence and shootings by making student aware of the consequences. But the shooters really don't care and aren't motivated to listen and to not kill. There isn't even valid reason to shoot people most of the time. The kids social psychology cause them to think different ways than we do. They are in an environment of kids that is constantly provoking killing and gangs. Which is all they know so they think that it is okay. Which is no excuse. This podcast made me so much more aware and makes me want to make a difference and helps kids in these situations.
Terms; stereotype, social norm, motivation,
This show made me feel somewhat upset, sad, angry. I could not imagine having gangs at my high school or even being a part of a gang. They talk about how if you live close to Harper High School, you will most likely automatically put you in a gang and you have no choice. It freaks me out that a lot of the gangs have guns, and they walk around with them. I would not feel safe. It’s sad that someone can not even choose to not be in a gang. They said that the police even said that the kids do not have an option of being in a gang, and they say that the cops should have say in it, but said that they all out number the police. It’s not a fairytale, and just because people do not think being in a gang is okay, it does not mean they are going to go away.
I would not want to grow up in a community where you did not feel safe anywhere you were, not even at school. I also would not want to follow rules like, know your geography, rule number two, never walk by yourself because it’s a way to not get jumped on or shot. No one will mess with someone walking in or with a group. Rule number three is never walk with someone else because you are highlighting your affiliation, which pretty much puts a target on you. Rule number four is do not use the sidewalk because there is just less going on by walking on the street. A student explained that it means the shootings and gang bangs that are happening, and so you can keep a broad view of the things going on around you. Rule number five is, if they shoot do not run because you will probably get shot in the back. A football player from Harper High School says that he just falls to the ground. Rule number six is you can be shot for reasons big and small. Rule number seven is never go outside. Kids say to stay away from your block for as long as possible, and get involved with school activities.
According to what I know about scientific aspects of social psychology presented in my textbook, the social psychological principles that I think are operating at this high school and in the community are that we make snap judgments about people. This one works because if you walk in a group then people in Harper will automatically think you are apart of that gang and the same thing goes if you live on a certain block. Stereotype and self-fulfilling are big issues within Harper. Stereotype is when we tend to create mental stereotypes because they are a fast, easy way to think about social information. This happens all over Harper because people are assuming things about people that they want to fight, and want to be in gangs, or just because they live on this street then they are apart so-and-so gang. Self-fulfilling prophecy is the tendency to behave in ways that confirm our own or others’ expectations. Also, this is appearing all over in Harper because although there are people that absolutely do not want to be in a gang, they’re still apart of one and have to participate or risk being shot or shot at. Another example of this is the gangs really living up to the name and meaning of what a gang really is.
I am so happy that my high school and community never had this issue with shootings and gangs. I can honestly say I felt safe to walk anywhere in school and in my community.
Terms Used: self-fulfilling prophecy, stereotypes, psychology,
Listening to this episode was an eye opener, to say the least. It’s crazy to think that we haven’t heard of this in the news at all, meaning there are most likely other problems in our world that we do not hear about. 29 shootings and 8 dead seems like a pretty big deal to me. I felt very bad for the students that were interviewed in this episode. It’s crazy to think how different a school in a bigger city, like Chicago, could be from a school in Iowa. The kids do not have to keep their gangs a secret at all, when asked they would tell teachers or principals. Their rules show what a dangerous place they live in. Rule #1 look at a map; where you live determines what gang you will be in and the worst part YOU HAVE NO CHOICE. If you do not want to be a part of a gang you can not avoid them. Rule #2 never walk by yourself, you risk getting jumped if you are by yourself. Rule #3, never walk with someone else because walking with a big group makes you a bigger target. #2 and #3 seem pretty contradicting, they walk with people but they will stay a ways behind one another. Rule #4 do not use the sidewalk, they walk right down the middle of the streets so they don’t have to walk by the trees and they have a better view if they need to run. Rule #5 if they shoot, don’t run because if you run you you will probably get hit in the back, you should fall to the ground. Rule #6 you can be shot for reasons big and small; the students reported that there are shootings over girls, money, or just rivalry shootings. Rule #7 never go outside the students said the best way to stay alive was to get involved and stay at the school as late as possible, and do not go on your porch. I couldn’t believe that they didn’t even feel safe to go out on their own porch! From listening to this I could tell how much the schools faculty cared for their students and wanted to help. I especially saw this with their student, Devonte. Devonte had accidentally shot and killed his own brother, after the incident he trasnferred but then came back to the school. Devonte said he didn’t feel the same about his classmates and teachers anymore because he could tell they didn’t care about him by their body language and facial expressions. Devonte regularly met with a counselor in the social work office and she put a lot of thought into how she would connect with Devonte. At some points I thought the faculty could have been more of authoritative figures instead of friends, but they were just trying to connect with their students. They really wanted their students to feel safte at school. In the episode we listened to an interview with a boy and the principal. The principal asked him what gang he was in, and he openly told him, then the principal asked him if he would come to him with any problems so that they did not carry over into their school building. The student said he would try, but he couldn’t promise anything. They want th problems these kids have outside of the school to stop, but that is probably out of their reach so they are making sure the problems do not come into school as well. It would be very difficult to see your friends/people you know being killed all around you, but having these teachers who care and aren’t just worried about punishing you would be somewhat helpful I feel. Since we learned about the environment you grow up in has an impact on your learning I am just going to predict these students are not highly successful in school. They have too much stress and things to worry about outside of school to give their best focus. Stress has been proven to make it hard to develop cognitive and non cognitive skills. I think it was easy to see that this school is most definitely not focused on just the cognitive aspects; they genuinely care about their students. I could also see that there was definitely a consistent stereotype going on here. When in most high schools there are “cliques” here their cliques are gangs. And when their is an outsider here you can about guarantee they will have a negative stereotype of this area. It looks dangerous and scary. These students have their in groups and out groups; they would do anything for those in their groups and wouldn’t for someone outside of their group, unless they were allies. Their environment is much different than the social norm; they have struggles and things to worry about every second of their day. It would be hard to focus in such circumstances like this, but it is nice that they have faculty at the school who really care and are so positive even in times like this.
Terms used: Cognitive, non cognitive, ingroups, outgroups, social norm, stereotypes, stress, learning, body language, facial expressions
These episodes made me feel extremely grateful for the schooling I’ve received throughout my life. I’m so lucky that I can feel safe here at UNI. I could sort of relate to this episode. The school I attended second through eighth grade was in a bad part of town. We had high security and were on lockdown numerous times because of gang fights outside. So listening to this episode really made me feel for this kids. Not being able to fully enjoy high school because of violence and aggression is terrible. It also angered me that this high school hasn't receive national attention. Look at all of the things these kids have been forced to go through. There should be awareness for these kids. They deserve to be respected and protected. I found this to be very prejudice against African-Americans. It’s discrimination and it’s wrong. If this was a predominately white neighborhood, it would be all over the news. News stations would be covering this story like there was no tomorrow. But since it’s a African-American neighborhood, there’s been no major news coverage. I personally had never heard of Harper High School before this, and I watch the news everyday. So to sum up my attitude towards this episode, I felt extreme sorrow for this kids.
There are many social psychological principles that are present at Harper High School. There are many gangs present around the high school’s area, and almost every young male is apart of one. In the episode, they said that many parents and teachers would tell kids to not join gangs, but in reality, they never asked to join, it just sort of happened. They said that if you lived in a certain area then you were automatically considered to be in a certain gang. As the young boys grew, their obedience and compliance for their gangs would grow. These young men would conform to the gangs after much persuasion from peers. One woman discussed certain “rules” that every student at Harper High followed as a result go situational attributions. Some of the rules were to not walk on the sidewalk, but instead the road. If you walked on the sidewalk then there was a better chance of you getting mugged or shot. If you were in the road you had a better view of your surroundings and had a better chance of escaping if you were attacked. Another rule was to never walk alone, because your chances of being mugged or shot were higher. But that rule contradicted itself because the next rule was to never walk in groups, because you would become an easy target and could easily be associated with a gang therefore becoming more likely to be attacked. The rule I found to most interesting was to never go outside. Ever. These kids said it wasn't safe outside, not even on your own porch.
The kids who were in these gangs experience deindividuation. Because of the group, they slowly lost their self values. They conformed to the group and became apart of it. There viewpoints diminished to the groups. They complied to what the gang wanted. They had lost their will to fight back. They experienced social facilitation. Everything they did was for the gang. They would shoot people for small things, like not paying money back, or for stealing someone’s girl. People were being shot for petty reasons, and the shooters were doing it because they felt it was right. That’s what they were conditioned to think. It was sad to listen to this episode and to see how violence has effected so many innocent people.
Psychological terms I used were discrimination, situational attributions, prejudice, attitude, persuasion, deindividaution, social facilitation, compliance, conformity, obedience, and aggression.
This episodes of This American Life were extremely depressing when listening to the stories of these people and how they have to grow up in fear for their lives and how they have to grow to become accustom to the violence that they live around. All of these students in the school had to live knowing that many of them may end up living in prison in their lives and that they do not know how they will live their lives in the way they are now or if they will even live long enough to go there. The norms that they had to grow up with would be completely different for many other people that would grow up in a area that is considered “safer” for the students and how their life would be completely different to how they live normally. All of the students that went to Harper High School had lived around gun violence for so long that many of them it was nothing new when another shooting took place in or around the area that they lived in and many times they would just continue on with their lives and make sure that they were able to survive another day.
This type of growing up and interaction with society would change many people when it comes to acting with their social norms and how their attitudes in other parts of life would be affected. In the broadcast it stated that many of the students looked like they were always tired and ever had the energy to do things in school. With growing up around all of this violence and knowing that many that they cared for were killed it permanently changed their attitudes towards other people and how they acted in different situations and became more prone to violence because of this. All of these different types of violence that some of these students lived around gradually shifted over to themselves when some decided to join gangs to make their living and their cycle of violence continued with them.
I thought it was great that many of the councilors and social workers that worked at the high school were really trying to give it their all when trying to help the students get over either the gun death of a student that they knew or trying to help them get back on the right track if they were in trouble. All of these teachers really cared for the students and wanted to make sure that they are able to function in society when they leave high school as well as make sure that they try to stay out of prison when they do finally leave.
These episodes made me feel mostly sad, and also kind of mad. This is because shootings should not have to be a normal occurrence. A lot of the students of Harper have no control over certain aspects of their own lives; they cannot choose whether or not they are in a gang, they cannot really go anywhere without being at risk or feeling afraid. The fact that they cannot choose whether or not to join a gang particularly angers me. Being in a gang is obviously extremely dangerous; they could literally die just because they are a member of a certain gang. No one should have to do something they do not want to do, especially if that something puts their lives at risk. Another thing that both angers and saddens me is that the constant shootings prevent them all from having a normal childhood and a normal high school experience. For me, the worst part about high school was just the petty drama. That is nothing compared to the things the students at Harper have to go through. One of the most important part of the year, homecoming, was almost taken away from these students because of a shooting and the typical gang events that typically follow. One thing that I think is admirable and amazing is the attitudes the administrators have despite all of the history and other things that go on. The principal especially tries to make school a safe place, and she tries to make every student feel important and good. She also tries to give them as normal of a high school experience is possible. She fought for security so that her students could have a safe and happy homecoming game and dance. The entire faculty of this school seem to all go above and beyond to help the students; this could be considered a type of altruism. Altruism is the act of providing help when it is needed, with no apparent reward for doing so. I think this could be considered altruism because the faculty really do try to help the students, especially the ones who have gone through a lot. While it is their job to help the students, they reach out to them and bond with them. This is mostly because a lot of those students do not really have anyone to talk to, and by experiencing all that trauma can be really damaging. If the faculty did not care about the students as much as they did, then their students would probably struggle even more so with their grief and other emotions caused by traumatic experiences. Another thing that I realized is that gangs are very stereotyped. Basically, most people outside of Chicago think that gangs are super violent and everyone in them are bad. However, this is not true. Most of the students in gangs, at least at Harper, are said to only be in gangs because they do not have a choice. If you live in this area, you belong in this gang, no matter what. Social norms are another thing mentioned in this show. Mostly, the social norms of gangs. It is one social norm to basically be loyal to the gang and obey any possible orders. It is another social norm to stay inside and stay in your own territory, otherwise you could risk getting shot.
Words used: attitude, stereotype, altruism, social norm
From this episode, it was shocking that so many students died, or were injured. From the description of the pep rally in the beginning of the show, one would not be able to tell that the school had experienced such a tragedy. This episode made me feel sorry for the kids and staff that have to deal with the “gangs” surrounding and influencing the kids throughout the neighborhoods by the school. To make matters worst, it is terrible that half the kids in the school are bound to die young.
Throughout the two episodes of the show, there were many social psychological principles mentioned. As soon as the first episode began to talk about gangs and death, I thought of actual gangs that sold drugs, had a leader, etc, but to my surprise it was the opposite. The gangs did not sell drugs, or have a central leader, but it was just a neighborhood and cliques. Cliques are common throughout high school, but not to this extent. Most of the gangs fight and kill over small things like: dating, rumors, etc. Due to these gangs and shootings the students fit into the term social norm. Social norms are expected standards of conduct that influence behavior. The violence within the students and neighborhood cliques, especially in Chicago, lead people to think of stereotypes. Although some of the stuff the show said did seem stereotypical, some of it is just confused and scared teenagers in cliques due to the safe feeling they get. The obedience some of these kids have towards their gangs, cliques, etc is as if they were all best friends. Due to that, their consequences don’t scare them, for they are obedient members in the gang. The school is doing as much as they can to lower the risk of their students dying young, but one can only do so much.
Terms: social norms, behavior, feeling, confused, scared, obedient, consequences, stereotypes.
How did these episodes make you feel? People get shoot at either from the simplest reason or nothing at all that is just messed up. I love Chicago because it is a beautiful city, a city that never sleep, but crime such as shooting happen all the time that my stepdad stop me from go to Chicago for holiday break. I get mixed feeling while listen to the blog radio. From sad to angry, disappointed and then confused. Shooting in Chicago is something the gangs or people who own a gun do for fun? The police should figure out a way to settle this down instead of let things be the way it is otherwise more people will get kill imagine how the family of the victim feel. I feel so bad for the people that live in this area. Teenagers did not get to go out because they are afraid of getting killed, parents are worry for their kids and refused to send their kids to school due to the same reason. From this episode of radio blog, these information linked to chapter 11, Social Psychology in the text book. According to what you know about scientific aspects of social psychology as presented in your textbook, which social psychological principles are operating at this school and in this community? According to what I have read and know about the aspects of social psychology as presented in your textbook, the social psychology principles are operating at this school and community through biological factor and social and cultural factors. The social norms also is being mention in the episode. Also, this blog radio is related to the topic “We comply with the requests of others”. The kids in the school are showing compliance by following the rule so they have a higher chance to survive in that community. The gangs are pretty much holding control over that area, they are the ones have powers and required the obedience from other people that want to live longer. These gangs are having a high aggression toward their victims through the biological factor.
Terms: Compliance, obedience, aggression, social norms
This episode is rather shocking and upsetting. It is just scary and sad of how Harper High School’s life is. There are many gangs in high school, at the beginning of the episode, it talks about how 21 students got shot and 5 students dead. Regardless of how much the school is well taken care of and how the staffs like the kids, parents still transfer their kids to a different school for their safety. Principals event drive over to the kids and pick them off and drop them off every school day to keep the kids. It’s just sad to see how principals try so hard to keep the students to enroll in Harper High School. Every staff at Harper tried their best to socialize with the kids to make up for everything that ever happened at this school.
At the beginning of the episode 487, the assistant principal convinced the kid to come to him if he got in any trouble. There are tons of street gangs around the block. You don’t have to sign up to be in a gang, you automatically be in a gang, because a gang is cover almost everyone. For example, if you live on a street whereas the gang cover, you’re in that specific gang. You don’t have a choice to be a gang affiliated. There are rules around the block if you don’t want to get jump on. They said, if you walk with a group of people or walk alone, the risks of being jumped on is the same. It is crazy how the gangs have gun and everything. It’s more like the gang is taking over Chicago.
The most shown social psychological principle in this episode was stereotype, both prejudice and discrimination. That’s how many conflicts happen at Harper High School. Because stereotypes can make the students feel in a certain ways. Related to stereotype, I could see ingroup and outgroup bias. It just how the gangs work. Each gang could affiliated with another gang or could hate each other. And will do anything to protect their gang members or could harm other gang members if they have to. And at the beginning of the episode, the stereotypes can also affect perception of how people look at Harper High School. I even see some of the self-fulfilling prophecy in the episode by how the kids around the block have to join the gang and behave like their gang’s expectation.
In concluding, the gang was taking over Harper High School. Everyday, the Harper High School staff try their best to keep their students safe and have the best high school time like any other kids in the country. But they never know what’s coming and it just sad to listen to this long episode about their stress lives. Not only the school staff, but also the family members and the students. Everything they do is just not enough to stop the gun violence.
terms: prejudice, discrimination, ingroup bias, outgroup bias, perception, self-fulfilling prophecy, stress, violence.
I am almost speechless after listening to these episodes. It is crazy to think about kids in high school being involved in so much violence. I went through my entire high school career without even hearing a gun go off. The kids in these episodes would hear shots every day. Life is so much different in a place like that. I feel lucky to live where I live. I feel really good about my life right now. Some of those kids were getting killed at 14, 15, and 16 years old. I am 19 years old right now, and to think that so many kids from that area didn’t even get to make it as far as I have is sad. I feel like I need to do something to help those kids in such terrible lives. There is so much violence there that I never realized was going on. I spent four days in Chicago just two weeks ago, and to think that there is a good possibility that a kid from Harper high school could have gotten shot while I was there scares me a little bit. Luckily I was in a pretty nice part of the city while I was there, but just a few miles south around where I was there was probably tons of violence occurring.
I believe one social psychology aspect that is huge in this area is the self-fulfilling prophecy. These kids are doing everything that we stereotype them to. All of the violence and the gang affiliation is falling directly into the stereotypes that people give them every day. Social exposure probably has a lot do with why people are continuing to be so violent in these places. It also probably has a lot to do with why people are affiliated with these gangs at such young ages. The people are learning that this is the attitude they should have based on everyone around them doing the same things. They are all constantly exposed to the gang violence, and that exposure causes them to have attitudes that they should do the same. This also relates to social norms. In these neighborhoods it is the normal thing to do. Where ever you live correlates to what gang you are in and everyone old enough is in that gang. People in these neighborhoods don’t want to mess up the normal thing to do, because that might be a good reason to get shot.
Key terms: self-fulfilling prophecy, stereotypes, social exposure, attitude, and social norms
This article was very shocking and surprising. Being that I am from the suburbs of Cedar Rapids, I cannot imagine what there life is like. I couldn’t imagine what I would do in this situation. The fear that those kid must have could give them so much stress and anxiety. I never knew how bad gangs and gang violence was until this told me that in there town depending on the block they live on they have to be in that particular gang. These kids must be so much stronger than the average person because of the thing they have to witness and go through every single day.
Attributions are shown in this episode. Devonte is the young high school boy that shot his brother on accident. Because of this he now goes to his counselors named Anita and Cristal. Anita and Cristal talk to Devonte to make him use personal attribution meaning his explanation for why events and actions occur and the make him talk about situational attributions in which make him explain why events and actions occur that refer to external events. One example of attribution could be, after Devontes brother dies his Family doesn’t say anything about the incident like it never happed but they don’t understand that sometimes talking about things can make situation much easier to understand and cope with.
Subtyping could be seen in this by one that says all African Americans are in gangs or are violent instead of saying that these kids are forced and that not all African Americans approve of the situation there in like Deonte. Deonte live in the Harper community and he is anti-gang. One thing he does is he has bible study in his home. Not all kids are strong enough to say no in the circumstances they are in.
Terms: Stress, Anxiety, Personal Attributions, Situational Attributions, Subtyping
This was a very sad show, but not necessarily surprising. As my brother would say “people have to fill the statistics.” What was surprising is that this is not how I imagined a Chicago school in the grasp of gang violence. These gangs did not fit the stereotype at all. There was no initiation, no decision to join the gang, and no hierarchy. Kids were simply put into gangs based on where they lived. These groups simply became a tool for safety. A kid walking alone to school was in danger.
There are huge elements of conformity going on in this community. Literally everyone is in a gang (except for the one student they mentioned) simply because it’s the thing that everyone is doing. The student who is not involved has to stay inside of his house all day in order to stay uninvolved in gang activity. If you are outside in a gang’s territory, then you will be involved somehow. It is nearly unheard of not to be involved in a gang.
All of this conformity results in a lot of deindividuation. The students are not really individuals, just members of a gang. The social work lady at the school tries to combat this feeling by telling every student she sees how important he/she is and that he/she matters. It was really inspiring to see what these school faculty members were working towards. They were all incredibly friendly and caring with the students, even in such a hopeless environment as Harper.
The social norms in this community are really off from what I am used to, coming from Cedar Rapids, Iowa. If someone gets in a fight, then they get back at each other through a shooting. If someone spreads a rumor, it results in a shooting. Sometimes shootings happen or no reason. It is simply the way it is there. The social norm is basically to treat all of one’s problems with aggression. The one student repeatedly said that he felt like he was going to hurt someone, even that he needed to hurt someone, to feel better.
Overall this show made me feel very grateful for my own schooling experience. I went to a decent high school. Sure there were a few fights every now and then, but not shootings nearly every day. Not only that but it is mind boggling to think that this type of a community even exists. Coming from a middle class suburban neighborhood, it is really hard to imagine the lives of these kids. They have no choice, I believe in the episode they put it as if your mom decides to move to this street, then you are basically forced to participate in the gang that runs that block. It is really strange to think that this is a reality for some people. It was also just strange to know that this is how a lot of gangs work, some of them do not even sell drugs or anything. They are basically just groups of people that stick together to survive and use violence to solve their problems.
Terms: social norms, stereotype, deindividuation, aggression, conformity
Listening to this article was not very shocking to me because I am actually from Chicago. This is not just a thing that is at Harper High School but it is all over the city of Chicago. Many children do not have a chance at life having to live and go to school in these areas. It is very heart breaking that children have to not only get shot but die amongst going to school trying to get an education. It is nothing that is new or even shocking to the people that are around. I don’t think any child should have to ask their parents to take them out of school because they are concerned that they are going to die. This is unfortunate. Many of the children that do get shot or die are really innocent. After listening to the episode and really hearing what they have to say made me realize that I don’t think enough is being done to prevent this. Chicago is a big city with a lot of communities. The communities and the school system needs to get together to fix these problems. Much of the problem with the Harper High school is the gang violence. This has to do with ingroups and outgroups for many gang members. It is said that everyone has to be in a gang or affiliated with a gang. This is a social norm for all of Harper High. This is outrageous. This turns innocent children that want to learn and move out of the ghetto into gang juvenile delinquents. Listening to this tape it said that the number one rule is to never walk alone. You have to walk in a group of people that are in the same group as you and you are never allowed to walk with someone else. That is sad to me. That you can’t even feel safe in the environment that you have to call home. Looking over your shoulder, watching what you wear, watching what you say and how you say become everyday norms to these children. The second rule to never walk on the side walk. This is because they feel safer walking in the streets so you can keep a broad view and have a bigger area to run. The next rule is, if people do shoot do not run! If you run then you will probably get shot in the back says one of the students. The next rule to this community and harper high school is that you can be shot for anything! Girls, money, fighting, or saying something wrong. Finally, the last rule is to stay from outside. I think this is like being in a prison. Many of these children are so scared that even the principals and teachers pick them up from home and drop them off every day.
Many of these children that go to Harper High School cannot be friends with people that they think are nice or with people that they want to be friends with simply because of the neighborhood that they live in. This can cause stress for many children wondering everyday if they will live to see the next day on their way to school. Although this school is out of control in my eyes the school is trying to do many things to try to prevent violence. Social workers are available in the school that helps children to cope with things like shootings, killings; being scared etc. many stereotypes are put on children in this school by other children and by the staff. There is many staff that are trying to help these children like psychologist, social workers, and even a big brother program. Even though children have problems at school many children have problems even at home. This one boy that was brought up in the show named Devante accidently shot his brother and has had to carry the weigh on his shoulder throughout school and every day of his life. Deindividuation was seen in Devante’s character. He had a picture of his brother on his shirt that he seen every day and he has to drink Nyquil every night just to get sleep. To Devante and to many children at Harper High there are two choices that they have. They have the streets and school that is much like the streets.
Psychological terms: Stress, Stereotype, ingroups, outgroups, social norm, Deindividuation
This unit of social psychology really helped me to understand what was going on in the minds of the students and community members featured in the Harper High School segment of This American life. The show focused on several elements of gangs and why kids join them, but from my reading I learned it really comes down to the desire to be a part of the group. As said in the show, everyone at Harper high school is affiliated with some form of a gang or clique based on where they were born and, as one boy in the interview said, they inherit the gang’s problems. In this town, they feel that no one is looking out for them or cares for them besides their gang members. They said their gangs protect them and give them a place in the school and ultimately the world. As said in the book, people conform to the group so they will not be ostracized, or in Harper’s case killed. They feel pressure to go along with the others even though they know what they are doing is wrong and hurts others. In such states they can experience deindividuation, a state of reduced self-awareness and attention to personal standards, or cognitive dissonance, a state of mental uncomfortableness due to contradictions between two attitudes and/or behaviors. While in their gangs, they are pressured to conform in order to appease the other members and can lose themselves in the gang’s purpose, such as in the tragic outcome of Terrance Green’s death. TG’s followers went overboard with giving him justice and began to hero-worship this gang leader. His birthday and death became key days of the year for partying, violence, rioting, and wars. It became so bad that the gang members began to even forget why they were upset in the first place, chanting “fight fire with fire”, changing their names Green, and raging a never ending war on the gang responsible for his death. Such behavior can also be linked with the frustration-aggression hypothesis which states that people are more likely to act aggressively when they feel frustrated. When questioned why this was still a problem after all this time the boys did not really know, they said they just inherited it. Because of all these horrible things the members do while in a gang, they tend to justify and change their attitudes about their behaviors. They go through so much pain, anger, a discomfort when part of these groups that they tell themselves it is worth it to be a part of the group, to be a part of something bigger. They direct their anger, usually from their bad home life, towards the rival gangs and blame them for their problems. This cycle of pain and hate has no end or definite beginning when looked at from this prospective. One boy, named Devante, even said that fighting makes him feel better. These boys use gangs and violence as an escape from the pains at home, making it more and more likely that they will commit crimes and stay with their crews. Another aspect of the show that coincides with the chapter is what Devante mentioned in his interview with his social service worker. Devante accidently killed his younger brother while the two were playing with a gun they presumed was broken and it really tore him up inside. But what was worse was that his friends and family do not believe it was an accident. No one came out and told him this directly (except when he overheard his mom say so when she was drunk) but he could tell they accused him and hated him by their body language and expressions. They communicated to him with their behaviors that he was no longer welcome in the family. His social service worker tried to tell him he was over analyzing what was going on, the fundamental attribution error, but he says he knows they hate him and that he’s starting to hate himself too. These feelings of self-hate led to him committing crimes, such as states in the frustration-aggression hypothesis, and he ended up fleeing from the police. Though much of the city has bystander apathy towards people like Devante, there are some good people who look past the initial actions and try to understand what is really going on in these kids’ lives. It is through such sociological and psychological observations that we can come to understand and help these suffering teens.
Social psychology, deindividuation, cognitive dissonance, attitudes, behaviors, fundamental attribution error, frustration-aggression hypothesis
After listening to these episodes I felt sick to my stomach. It is hard for me to imagine living in a place so violent, much less going to a school in an area like that. I grew up in a small town, and went to a somewhat small high school. My graduating class size was average, and I knew almost every person by name, so it is hard for me to visualize a place where things like this happen. I feel extremely safe in my community and even more safe when I’m at school. This Chicago high school lost eight students due to shootings and had twenty-one students who were wounded. The story that touched me the most was Devonte’s story about his brother. Devonte accidentally shot and killed his fourteen-year-old brother. His story is about how he dealt with the guilt and what his home life is like after the death of his brother. His mother was interviewed and informed them that her daughter, Devonte’s sister, was no longer speaking to him. His mother said, “the house was like hell.” This story touched me because I can’t even imagine what Devante had to go through. It would be hard enough to lose a family member, but to be the person who caused it would be unimaginably painful. The second part of the radio show talked about how most of these shootings happen in public places. To me that is the scariest part of all of this. My parents always told me that if I feel unsafe I should run to a public place, but in this area that is not the case. I can’t grasp how it would feel to be afraid to walk to school or even to go to your mailbox to retrieve your mail. This part of the radio show also talked about how most students have either witnessed a shooting, or been apart of one. They describe a boy name Thomas who has seen more than his fair share of violence in his neighborhood. When he was only ten years old he witnessed the shooting of one of his friends, and he said that he saw her lying on the floor, with what appeared to be her brains lying next to her. He witnessed his brother get shot three times and was there when he was paralyzed. The violence in this area was so bad that they debated whether or not to cancel homecoming. This radio show relates to our textbook chapter about social psychology because it is all about the way we interact with each other. In this case, the students made judgments on each other based on where they live, and categorized each other into specific gangs. Rather than judging each other on the way they look, they judged each other by the streets that they lived on. In a way, they stereotyped each other, because even if a person didn’t want to be apart of a gang, they were anyway. People automatically associated you to a certain group, and there was no going back from it. The chapter also talks about social norms, which you can easily point out in this radio show. Every student who was interviewed said that is wasn’t safe to be outside, and their reasoning was because, “you could get shot.” It was normal for shootings to happen in this area, in fact, people expected it. If you were to walk alone, you could expect to get jumped or even killed. These are all social norms of this particular area. Then of course, the chapter that we read about social psychology talked about aggression. Aggression involves the intention to harm someone else. Aggression played a huge role in this community, and it seemed to be the only way that anyone solved their problems. After listening to these episodes, I am very grateful to have grown up in the community that I did, and I cant imagine having to grow up like these young kids.
Terms: violence, stereotype, social norms, aggression
These episodes make me feel as if life is too short in order to be not social with other peers. Violence is a major event in every school, town, and country, and is getting more “popular” in schools nowadays than it should. Gun threats in schools are very serious because so many have died in school shootings in the past. I can relate to this in a way because my junior year of high school there was a gun threat at my school. It was had a very strong social impact on our school because there were police in uniform, and undercover cops all around the school for a couple of weeks until the rumors died down. Some would think it is the social norm to follow a violent crowd, and to fit in with that crowd you have to be crude to others who don’t deserve it. People go as far to judge on color of skin, what you wear, who you hang out with, etc. It’s also known as being prejudice against a certain type. Being prejudice, having stereotypes, and other ideas is what high school nowadays is. If you don’t “fit in” then you obviously stick out, therefore will get bullied. It is sad to think that what we do, and how we do it would make us who we are, because some of the kids do things just because they think it is what is needed to fit in.
Some other things I got from these episodes is the body language and facial expressions we use daily, that can change or determine some ones perspective on us. Body language is important in the social world because if we are doing something wrong such as standing a certain way, doing something out of place than others, than we stick out and others will judge. This relates back to the episode as well. Many schools have those who stick out because of their body language. Body language can be good in the aspect that if you are just standing still, having a conversation, hands on your side, everyone would think that everything is going smooth. Body language that would make someone or a group feel uncomfortable would be someone who is swaying back-and-fourth, moving their hands a lot, or making odd facial expressions. Body language and facial expressions go hand-in-hand. Facial expressions in my opinion tell more on the social aspect because it is usually what people see when they first look at you. Different facial expressions such has smiling, crying, mad, etc. tell the different types of moods you could be in at a certain time.
Terms: social impact, prejudice, rumors, social norms, body language, facial expressions
Cassandra Rutledge
Harper High School
11/5/2014
These episodes made me feel aweful because of all the shootings have happened have not happened in the school, but they were outside of school. When the shootings happened nothing was said on the national news, even though their were twenty-nine students injured and even dead. The shootings were not important enough for the president to announce like Shady Hook Elementary. I believe that every shooting is important and should be made noticed, we as citizens of the United States need to know how dangerous things are for the safety of our kids.
Social Psychology is involved with gangs because with gangs when you are a part of a gang you have brothers who will have your back. You are given a certain gang when you live in a certain area, and you do not have a choice whether or not to be in the gang. Gangs are the defining social structure of the school, and are not necessarily the bad kids in the corner. The seven rules are know your geography, never walk by yourself, never walk with others, do not use the sidewalk, don't run if you are getting shot at, you can be shot for reasons big or small, and never go outside. The affiliations of this is to not make a target on yourself and not the give a reason for being jumped or shot. They advise you to stay off of your block as long as possible, just stay in the school as lon as possible. Gangs really shows that social psychology is really not important because no matter what you do you cannot go out and make friends with whoever you want because there are rules that you cannot change.
Terms: social psychology,gang, affiliations, important,
In the news we hear about school shootings and it’s always a very big deal with lots of mourning and sadness. But after listening to the stories of Harper High School you can see that those shootings are not the only ones going on in schools throughout the country. Harper High School is located in the South Side of Chicago and is subject to a lot of gang violence. During the first episode one of the kids talks about how there really is no way to not be in a gang growing up in the area around the high school. He says that you are labeled for what gang you are in based on the neighborhood that you live in. That’s just how things are in that area of Chicago the kids are in gangs whether they want to be or not. This really surprised me, because growing up in a town that had very little gang violence we didn’t have to worry about walking to school through certain neighborhood’s and being shot at by people who thought that we were in other gang’s. This show’s the ingroups and outgroups that are in social psychology. The neighborhood that you live in regardless of if you are active in the gang are part of your ingroup because those people are the ones that give you the greatest chance for survival. Those that are in other surrounding neighborhoods are part of the outgroups because they pose a threat so you may have a like of trust or a dislike towards those people. I think that students also had a complex attitude towards violence and guns. I think that they didn’t agree with all the violence and the shooting that was happening at and around the school, but they realized that if they wanted to have the best chance of surviving in this area they needed to find some way to be able to protect themselves and for them that means using guns and violence to protect themselves. In the second episode Boogie talks about this when he is explaining what his friend Terrance Green said about the only way to stop the other neighborhood gangs from harassing them. He said that they needed to fight fire with fire, because the only way that those gang members were going to stop was if they had some way to retaliate and in that area of Chicago retaliation meant getting a gun for yourself.
Terms: Complex Attitude, ingroup, outgroup
This episode made me feel lucky that I come from the area I do, but it also made me feel really sad for the people who live in that area. The reason why so many kids have been shot in that school district is not because of the school itself, it is the area that the schools and what surrounds it. I do not think it is fair for those kids because you cannot help what your born into, those kids did not choose to be born into that life or that area, a life of constant gang rivalry and shootings. I think it is really cool that Harper school has social workers that want to tell them and reach out to the kids because people in their homes lives do not help them. It was crazy to think that you weren’t allowed to walk around the neighborhood with certain people because it will lead to their deaths. It amazed me that at of all the people they interviewed and talked to there be just one kid who stayed in his house all day and was not affiliated with the gang life. This school and community have no help either. It made me feel really sick to my stomach because if this ever happened to a mostly white school in the middle of Iowa, where kids were getting shots on the streets and out of one school twenty-seven kids had died it would make national news, but just because it is a mostly black school in Chicago it is normal. Which is not ok because then the problem is not noticed and it keeps on going and getting worse and worse. It is also made me feel sad that the school is losing funding and the positions that are helping the students are being let go. It also amazed me the kinds of thing the kids did not have, like a warm winter coat, or even laundry soap.
One social psychological principal that is shown in this podcast is personal attributions. Personal attributions are people explanations for why events or actions occur that refer to people’s internal characteristics. This is people blaming just hating each other and being in rivalry gangs to they kill each other. They explain shooting people with just hating each other and being in different gangs from one another. In-groups are a very big part of this school. In-groups are groups you are so connected with that you cheer them on and would do anything for them even die for them. The in-groups at Harper School are the gangs, they are very strongly connected with one another that they kill for each other and would die for each other. Also out-groups go on at this school, each person has their own in-group and it usually only one in-group and the rest of the gangs to all the other people are out-group because they do not belong within that group. The mere exposure effect is also very seen in the Harper school district. Mere exposure effect is the increase in liking something due to repeated exposure. This is shown with people at this school seeing more and more violence going on within this school and people pick up the violence shown within this school and create a liking to it and participate in it. This school has different social norms than a school I would attend. The social norms at this school are be a part of a gang, own a gun and not being afraid to kill people. The normal thing in a community like this is being in a gang and not caring about school, and in many other parts of the country those are very far from social norms. People at this school have no obedience. They do not like authority and do not listen to teachers when they are trying to help with their outside problems. This school has a lot of aggression and let it out through gun violence.
Personal Attributions, In-groups, Out-groups, Mere Exposure Effect, Social Norms, Aggression
While I was listening to these two audio recordings, I was thinking to myself about how these types of things could happen around a high school. Experiencing shootings can be a traumatic thing and no should have to go through it. School is supposed to be a place where children can go and don’t have to worry about being harmed. It was said that Harper High School was placed right in the heart of Chicago where there were a lot of gangs. First thing I don’t get is why there is a high school in the middle of a bunch of gang establishments. It’s just a matter of time before there is a bunch of school shootings and everyone is in danger. It made me a little uncomfortable to listen to all the shootings that had happened and every student that had passed away.
As I was listening, I noticed a couple of social psychological principles that were within the community and school district. One principle that I recognized among the gang members is compliance. Compliance is defined as agreeing to do things that are requested by others. The recording talked about how a lot of the football team was part of gangs and how they came together to still play as a team. This is an interesting thing that they do because people usually can’t come together for one thing and then be foes for another thing. There is also the concept of social norms that are used within the school and the community. These are standards that influence the behavior of everyone. Within every school, there are social norms that everyone follows and is expected that there will be no misunderstandings. I find that the social norms of Harper High School are always interrupted because of gangs and shootings around school. In the recording, the school talked about just wanting to have a normal homecoming football game and high school dance afterwards, but there were school shootings and they were questioning the safety of the students. Students should be able to enjoy their high school experience without any disruptions and feel safe at the same time.
Terms: social norms, compliance
This episode was very shocking to me, yet it was very intersecting. It was eyeopening. I was exposed to something very different and new. I grew up in a complete different environment than that. I come from a small town in Iowa where people are very nice and friendly. There are no gangs and no shooting. I can not imagine going to a school where there are gangs and crime and violence around the block. I would be very uncomfortable going to that school knowing that my classmates are part of a gang. I have never lived or been to a rough neighborhood. Living in middle of crime and violence how can they have a safe environment to study and focus on school while get good grades. They are just focused on surviving and not getting shot. What shocked me the most was that they are part of a gang not because they want to, but because of where they live. The kids do not go to a bad school, they just live in a bad neighborhood. They can not walk around be them self, they have to go in a group. Principles, teachers and security guards are all trying hard and doing there very best to provide good education and a safe environment for the kids to learn. It is not their fault. What shocked me the most was that they can not even have homecoming without security. That stuff is meant to be fun. I remember in high school we had homecoming and our community participated in it and had a huge role in. That part for me was heartbreaking, but in the end I was happy that they had a good homecoming dance and football game and had fun.
In the second part for me was even more heartbreaking. I had not idea that 82% of murders in Chicago happens are in public places. I can not image witnessing a murder, let alone that many murders that Thomas had witness. I was surprised to hear the fifteen year old has a gun and they know people who can get them gun. They knew so much about a guns, like they knew where to get them, who much to pay for them. They know about guns inside out, I do not know that much about a gun as that fifteen year do. I am glad that they are working with a social worker to improve their community. I like the social worker, she seems really caring and is impacting the students in a good way. She said that nothing has changed in last twenty years it is the same.
Some of the social psychological aspects that are present is stereotype, that someone is sacred of someone else. When the principle called the kid in his office and just thought that kid is part of a gang, he just assumed that he did not even asked him any question or anything to find out if he is part of a gang. Also prejudice and discrimination is also part of social psychological is if this was some rich white school kid media and people all-around the country would be talking about this and this would be a big issue, but it not the case and so not many are taking about this. Social exposure is also part of this, these kids are part of a gang because of where they live. I think that the parents should also standup and get there kids out of that community and move somewhere else or if they know that their kid is part of a gang they should put some sort of restriction on the kids. Conformity is also part of the social psychology, if they are part of a gang they have a symbol to represent their gang or a name for the
gang. Social norm it was part of their community, if someone is part of a gang it influenced other people to be part of the gang and get involved in crime. It put pressure on other kids to do that. Aggression also plays a main part, having a lot of anger and hatred, I think that it is like that because many of them have seen a lot of murders and crime and they just need something to get rid of that frustration so they get in fights.
Psychological terms- Stereotype, discrimination, prejudice, social exposure, conformity, social psychology, aggression
Listening to this episode of This American Life really had me sympathetic. I was sympathetic for the school administrators and teachers, along with all of the students. The prologue of part one was very surprising. 29 kids had gotten shot. Not all died, but this is a huge number for me. The only thing I know about gangs were what I have seen on TV. They were all older kids fighting over territory and usually associated with drugs and weapons. This is not how they actually are for these kids. They are predestined to be in a gang weather you want to or not. This is what I found disturbing. That even if you didn’t want anything to do with gangs or violence, you are still in harm just because of where you live.
When I was listening to this the first connection I made to the social psychology chapter was conformity or compliance. This is obvious. The groups would conform to the expectations of everyone else. The kids would only hang out with other kids in their gang, even if they weren’t actually in the gang. They would also do some weird things like walk down the middle of the road. This was said to be because they felt safer, but I think it was more with doing what everyone else was doing. This makes it even harder for the school to fix some of the problems. These unset rules are deeply engrained in the lifestyle and it is almost impossible to change.
Another social phycology connection I made was about in-groups and out-groups. These are also very obvious. Each in group is everybody who lives within the gang territory. These kids only hang out, each lunch, and walk home with. There are many in groups within the school. There are 15 within the school district territory. The out-groups are all the other gangs. These make for a lot of problems with the kids. Each has witnessed their fair share of horrible things. The school tries to help each student at the social service office. This is always a packed room and they are very helpful to the students.
The last connection I made was cognitive dissonance. There was a rule that they explained most kids live by. It was don’t walk alone. Then the next rule was don’t walk in a group. This is contradicting statements. The actions of the students was the opposite of what they were doing. Everybody walks with a group. The reporter went to one that looked like he was walking alone, but he said he was walking with people just a little behind him. Walking as a group defies the rule that they have not officially set but I expected.
Key terms: Cognitive dissonance, in-groups, out-groups, conformity, compliance, social psychology
Listening to the Harper High School radio show really made me feel shocked and sad for these kids. In the first show it talked about how these kids couldn’t relax because just walking down the street or sitting outside their house could get them killed. I was extremely shocked hearing the police officer talk about how they cant avoid being in a gang because this wasn’t a fairy tale where that was an option for them. It was extremely shocking to hear about all the violence and aggression between gangs how some of the students turned to being in gangs as a way to gain more safety and security. I just thought it was so strange that everyone in that school was technically part of a gang just because of the street they lived on. The amount of stress these kids have going on in their life is tremendous. Not only do they have the basic daily hassles as any normal teenager such as dating, school, money, and sports but they have special ones such as being shot, hurt, or bullied by the various gangs in their area. Many of the kids that they had on the show talked about some major life stressors such as seeing friends and family be shot and killed. One of the students actually had to dead with the stress of accidentally shooting and killing his 14 year old brother. I honestly think if I was dropped or transferred into that high school I wouldn’t be able to handle the stressors these kids live with in their everyday life. When they talked about all the times people have been shot at and how to react I was just so shocked to hear their answers. These kids had dealt with being shot at enough times that they had been conditioned to just fall to the ground when presented with the stimuli of being shot at. When they posed the question I figured they would say something along the lines of fight and flight responses but they simply just said if you ran away you would definitely get shot. The students aren’t the only ones affected by all the gain violence though as we can see from this story because the social worker, Crystal, mentioned how the stress of the job and the worrying for the students actually got to the point where she thought she was having a stroke. She described her bodies stress response to be causing her numbness throughout her body. At the end of the show the student who accidentally shot his 14-year-old brother actually fell into a social norm from his community. He had fallen on rough times with family issues due to his brother’s death and was literally giving up on life. He fell into the social norm though because he got a gun and was picked up on gun charges and stopped going to school. For this community to join a gain or get stuck in the cycle of all the gain violence seems to be a social norm. Crystal on multiple occasions refers or brings up the idea of helping the students “get out” or people that “got out”. This to me seemed life she was seeing those people as getting away from the gang violence or by simply putting it breaking the social norm.
Terms Used: aggression, stress, daily hassles, major life stressors, stressors, conditioned, stimuli, fight or flight response, stress response
This episode was very shocking and sad to me. I can’t imagine having that happen around me everyday. I grew up in a very small town, I know everyone I went to high school with. There are no gangs or talks of gangs where I’m from. The episode talked about the different ages these kids were killed at, fourteen, fifteen, sixteen. Those kids had their whole lives ahead of them. But it was cut short because of this. It’s crazy to me that gangs are unavoidable, and teachers and police officers understand that everyone is in one. These kids can’t walk home alone; they don’t want to go out after dark. They live in constant fear that something could happen to them. The episode did talk about one boy, Deonte that is anti-gang. He doesn’t have anything to do with that, he instead holds bible study at his home. Although he can stay away from it not all of these kids are able to do that.
I believe that the episode talked a lot about stereotyping. I didn’t know that gangs were just a neighborhood and cliques. And gang fights and killing aren’t due to drugs or things like that; they’re over rumors and dating, thing of that nature. These students fit the social norm for that area. That’s what these students are use to, they really don’t know anything different.
Terms: stereotypes, social norms
When listening to these episodes I felt remorse for all of the kids because of the hardships the kids had to go through. I grew up in Northeast Iowa and there was nothing to the extent of school shootings. The closest area that has those would be forty-five minutes away. The kids at these schools could have lost a friend or someone special in their lives. In the episodes there were examples of kids that went through traumatizing experiences that alter the way they act. The main example I’m going to use is the when were student accidently shot and killed his younger brother. He thought the kid was someone else but later learned that it was his own brother. This kid lived in a life where guns and violence were a common thing. In a way it was like a part of their culture because no matter where you lived or what you wanted, you were a part of a gang. In school people organized themselves into gangs because it was a way of making friends and getting help if you were in trouble. This kid was a part of a gang like all the other kids and thought he was in danger so he acted. This kid now knowing he killed his brother has changed his ways and does whatever he n to not get involved in gangs and to excel in school. He has changed mentally and is haunted by how he shot his brother so he can only sleep in his brother’s bed to feel better. People form their attitudes through experience and exposure. Once these things started on the school, they leaked to other people in the school. When they all were exposed to being in a gang they all became a part of one because it was the thing to do. This is called the mere exposure effect because this increases the liking due to repeated exposure. They do not see a problem with this because they are exposed to it throughout their life. The kid that shot his brother now sees something wrong with this because he lost someone in his family.
The first episode was a huge surprise to me. I have never really thought about the fear that some kids experience everyday going to school. It’s just too bad how some kids didn’t even want to go back simply because he/she didn’t feel safe. Fortunately, I never had that problem at my old school, which is in Parkersburg, IA. It is a very safe, small town with a population of about 2,000. As a result, I never knew about gang wars, and I think that’s a good thing. When it comes to gangs, if you aren’t apart of them, then you are against them in their eyes. It ultimately matters where you live as to what gang you are apart of, whether you like it or not. This just disgusts me that kids have to put up with this. It just isn’t fair that they have to wake up everyday and deal with this. The other thing that furiated me too, was that if you walk alone, you running the risk of getting jumped. If you’re walking with a group out on the street, it looks like you’re in a gang. You can’t win either way, and that is just unfair on many levels. Insurmountable amounts of stress and anxiety must take place for many people in neighborhoods like that.
The second episode wasn’t much different than the first in my eyes. It was equally surprising. 82% of murders that happen in Chicago take place in a public place, which means that these kids must see and experience some terrible things. Not only are the streets not safe, but the schools aren’t even safe either. There’s nowhere they can go to be completely safe.
Attributions were shown in this episode. Devonte is the young boy that shot his brother on accident, which resulted in him now going to counselors named Cristal and Anita. They talk to Devonte and make him use personal attribution meaning his explanation as to why actions and events occur, as well as situational attributions which make him explain why actions and events occur that refer to external events. Another term that was used was stereotyping. One could say that all African Americans are in gangs. This obviously is not true, and Devonte is an example of that. He’s anti-gang and does bible study in his own home.
Overall, it was just upsetting to know that this is how a lot of gangs work. They’re basically just groups of people that stick together as a unit and use violence to solve most of their problems. That’s some lifestyle.
Terms Used: stress, anxiety, attribution, personal attribution, situational attribution, stereotyping
These audios made me feel extremely happy about my high school and how non-violent it was. Growing up I thought my town was not the best place to be. I mean this as in there were “gangsters” but they were not toting guns and there was no shootings. I would definitely want to move if I went to this school because my education is not worth my life. I think that it was interesting how they handled shootings and the aggression of gang life in general. I thought that they were extremely smart how they handled each individual incident; how they didn’t have a strict rule that applied to everything. The way they handled things made it seem like they actually care about the kids involved; as if they were family. This is probably why the kids were so obedient during school. The main girl at the school (blanked on her name), was very respected and could talk to most of the kids. I think that without the attitudes from the staff of the school these kids would really be destined to young pointless lives. If the staff was any different I think that the school would probably be shut down because they would label the students and they would be on the long path of self-fulfilling prophecies. I mean this because if they don’t get the nurture from school like they do now; and teachers look at them as gang members then they will end up becoming just that. I think that the problem for this school would be the social norms. The way they said that just the neighborhood you lived in was your “gang”. If they would eliminate this and the other “rules” I think that the school would be much better off violence wise. I also think that once most of the kids start to go this path then the rest would conform and follow in their footsteps. The kids aren’t bad; they just need some leaders to help stop all of the “rules”. Once we stop the cycle of being mad and having to act on that aggression (frustration-aggression hypothesis) I think that the town can have a normal social environment.
Psychological terms that I used were; aggression, attitudes, self-fulfilling prophecies, social norms, conform, obedience.
This week’s radio show made me feel sad and depressed but also helped me remember how lucky and privileged I am to not have those same worries or fears like the ones the students at Harper High School have felt. I can’t imagine having to always watch my back and be careful not to break any of the unwritten rules which some meant life or death. It’d be so stressful and exhausting to be in that hostile environment 24/7, after listen to both radio shows I learned it was just that, stressful and exhausting.
The social psychological principles that I found to be apparent in both the community and school were the fight or flight, tend-and-befriend response, and major life stressors. The examples where I saw the fight or flight principle was especially when the students were describing how they don’t get to choose if they are in a gang, they are forced in just because of what block they lived on. This way they don’t really have a chose, they have to fight because if they don’t and they decide to fly they’ll end up shot and dead.
The other principle I found was the tend-and-befriend which is when you feel the need to talk to someone or a group about a traumatic experience you had. The example that I found from the radio show that demonstrated this was when Damion was introduced. He used to be the kid who was known as a trouble maker at school until the day he accidently shot and killed his own brother. After that he explained, to one of the staff members at Harper High School, that the reason why he came to school more and wasn’t as much of trouble was because he just wanted and needed someone to talk to. After the accident some of his family shunned him, his only time of relief was at school when he could talk to one of the staff members, Crystal.
Instead of having just normal everyday daily stressors, the faculty, staff, students, and community all face more major life stressors every day and they never seem to let up. It’s not that the Harper community didn’t experience daily stressors such as getting cut off or waiting in a long line, because I’m sure that they did, it’s just their main type of stressors fell under the major life category unfortunately. Major life stressors can be anything from a natural disaster to you seeing your friend die. So you can see why people in Harper would be stress. Being stressed is not only very unhealthy for a person but it can make you sick physically, emotionally, and mentally.
Terms: tend-and-befriend, major life stressors, fight or flight, psychologist, physically, emotionally, mentally
This American Life episode made me think about how lucky I am. I thought I had a lot of stress here in college at UNI, but I can’t imagine what kind of stress these students have on them by just attending high school everyday. They have daily hassles that impact their lives greatly. The numbers really got to me in this show. The fact that there was twenty-seven shootings at one point in the year really shocked me. It put this into a new perspective. I thought to myself, my graduating class had forty-four people. This would mean that more than half of the students in my class would have been shot. The amount of violence and aggression that takes place in and around the neighborhood of Harper High School is more than enough. What would it be like to go to a school where ultimately everyone is a gang? I have thought of gangs before but not in this kind of situation. For them this is all they know. In their eyes it’s socially normal. For them if they stand on their own porch they have a risk of getting shot at. For me, I’ve slept on my porch under the stars and not felt even a little bit scared. I wonder what these students’ attitudes toward life are. What really are their goals in life? To try to live without being shot at? The people that really made me believe why some of these students wanted to live were those who put in the extra effort and gave real compassionate love to the ones who really needed it. Both of the social workers in the radio show, to me, showed some type of act of altruism. Even though they were obliviously getting paid to work at Harper, I feel as if the got an even bigger reward out of their job then most. What they did for the students like Devonte was more than what they were getting paid for. At the end of it all Devonte did end up running from his problems, but when he looked in the mirror he saw the ‘good’ Devonte. That said, I think Crystal, the social worker, did her job and more and made him believe there was some good in himself. The health and well-being of the students in this community were and still are affected by social psychology. The judgments and stereotypes formed influence people to think wrongly of those who live there. Even though living isn’t considered great in this area there are still good people such as the staff members who are there not to discriminate, but help those who aren’t emotionally and mentally stable. Like I said before this episode shocked me, but it also made me realize how fortunate I am to be here today. The psychological terms I used were stress, daily hassles, aggression, social norms, attitude, goal, compassionate love, health, well-being, psychology, stereotypes, discriminate.
These episodes made me extremely sad. It is so crazy to think that those are hidden rules that those high schoolers have to live by. All of the rules contradict themselves, don't walk only but also don't walk in a group. To those kids that is just another day to them but to us here in Iowa that's taboo.
Majority of those kids are just going with the flow and sticking to norms so they don't die. Devonte was the only example they gave that was against gangs. He has true dedication to go against the norms of Harper High School. It seems that the kids living like that are just trying to survive and to them that's normal. I wonder what would happen if one by one they all stood up against this gang violence and said no this isn't the way. If I went to this high I would follow the norms of surviving. I would be in gang with out actually being in a gang. The fact if your new to the city and just moved in and someone approaches you saying your apart of this gang? That is crazy because you would have no idea and not want anything to do with it but that doesn't matter because that is a norm living in that kind of neighborhood. Those kids need those positive social workers and teachers in there corner every step of the way or they will be lost without them.
After listening to Acts One and Two of Harper High School I feel very uncomfortable and a little upset. I think it is sad how much influence gangs or the need to be accepted has on kids today. At Harper High School, you must be accepted somehow some way, and if your not you still lose. In part one it was talked about how if you walk alone you risk being jumped and if you walk with people you risk becoming a target by being affiliated with those people. Gangs and violence are being taken too far. Twenty-nine kids being shot, and eight dying is just sickening, especially because they are being shot for nothing. Part one mentioned how kids are shot for things such as girls, money, and other small feuds that have been taken too far. The only thing worse than the fact this stuff is happening, is that we never heard about it. Maybe we would have heard if it was a richer place or nicer city. However, 29 shot and 8 dying over the course of a year, all kids, has become normal in places like this, and that is the worst part.
As far as the homecoming still happening, I think it would be a good thing for the school to cancel. I know many people think it would be good to go on with normal activities, but I think thats the problem. These types of things are becoming too normal. It has to stop. I really think the idea of normal needs to be changed before anything else can change. These kids no nothing more tun gun violence. They need something greater in their lives to lean on. They need to learn values, and ways to deal with problems without looking to violence. Today kids aren't developing friendships. They develop cliques and build brotherhoods. They stand up for each other and are used to protecting each other no matter what the cost. These things are good traits if they are used the right way. However, in the case of TG being killed, gangs thought they needed to retaliate in honor of TG. These things are very sad to see, because you know there will be revenge after the revenge, aggressions will become more serious and it will just keep carrying on. Places like Harper High school need something to live for.
I think everything happening in this school is practically all of chapter 11 section 3 of the textbook. The section is how other people influence us. The first way it relates is talking about social facilitation. This is when your performance is enhanced around others. In the school, gangs will stop at nothing to make sure they keep their “people” pleased. Whether it is stealing, or even killing. Another way I can relate it to the social aspects of psychology is through deindividuation. This is when phenomenons occur because people are not aware of themselves. These kids are so into the things they do they don't take the time to stop and realize what they could become. They think for the moment and hope they can do what needs to be done at the moment, no matter what it takes. These kids conform to the ways of others to make sure they stay safe with the protection of others. They take sides and exhibit compliance and become a part of these tragic events that have become social norms. They have more obedience to their own social groups and kids their age than adults. It’s not that they don't listen to or rebel against adults, they are just more so influenced by kids their age.
It is a lot easier to see why these things happen and where the influence comes from after knowing the things previously mentioned. Unfortunately, knowing why it occurs isn't creating answers to the problems. Kids are still getting ahold of guns, and in the end, kids are still shooting kids. Hopefully we reach a point in time where this can come to a stop.
Terms Used: Social facilitation, Deindividuation, Conformity, Social norm, Compliance, Obedience, Agression,
Ricardo Garza
Growing up, I was raised in a dangerous neighborhood. I attended a private Christian school but my friends on my block did not. I heard all of the stories that they had to tell from their experiences with gangs and trouble that they had gone through at school. I heard stories about how their best friend or brother had been stabbed or shot or beaten up in the bathroom. I heard about how they were scared to leave the house or even go outside to feed their dogs because they were afraid of being killed or “smoked”. This video related to me in the way that gangs and violence were surrounding me and my family.
These episodes made me have this feeling of fear, not only for myself but for the people in the situations. The one part of the episode where they were announcing candidates for homecoming king and queen and one guy stood up on the stage and another went up and without a whisper or anything, he told him that his best friend had been shot. I thought this was interesting because I know that if they can say something like that without a single emotion or feeling of sorrow, then that means that that kind of stuff must happen often enough for them not to be effected.
The social psychological principles that are seen in the high school and homes of the individuals from the episodes are compliance, social norms, conformity, and social facilitation. Compliance is seen in the schools of these kids by how where you live is what gang you are in. The administration try to form this compliance with students that if the y comply with them then they can protect the student while they are in school. In the home or in the streets, compliance is seen how the people in the gangs comply. For example if a gang member were to ask something from another member, then they are complying with them. Social norms are seen also in the streets and also in the schools that these students attend. The idea that the way that these students are living is an example of a social norm. They wake up every single day with the knowledge that they may be hurt or killed, or maybe a friend of their may be stabbed or beat up that day. The social norm for these students is not a good one. Conformity is also seen in the lives of these students. In the street the students try to change the way that they act around certain people and follow particular rules that are known in the streets for their own protection, this is a form of conformity. Social Facilitation is another social psychological principle seen in the lives of the students. This is seen usually around a group of gang members. When people see a group of these members walking around, they know that something dangerous is about to happen and that they should stay away because violence is about up rise.
Terms: Compliance, social facilitation, conformity, social norms,
This episode made me sick to my stomach. I cannot believe how harsh people, especially students, are to each other. Never have I ever heard of such a scary community to live in. It’s terrible that it is a normal occurrence to have students killed and shot. I am happy, however, that they have a nice teacher staff to help their students be safe and feel protected. It was mind boggling that since the principal has been there, twenty-seven students have been killed. At my school, my principal has been there for thirteen years and since he has been there maybe one or two students have passed away due to natural causes or car accidents. We have never had a shooting or an act of violence so major like this school has. I realize how blessed I am to live where I do live. I didn’t have to be afraid to walk to or from school everyday. I didn’t have to worry about my friends or classmates being gang bangers. It’s even worse that these shootings are silly stupid ones done for little arguments or nothing at all.
I love how teachers are so supportive of the students and the school. They want to be in the life of the students to make sure they feel safe and they are comfortable. They want to make sure the students can graduate so they can have a better life somewhere besides there on the streets. They were especially really nice to a boy named Devonte. Devonte accidently shot his little brother. His mom and sister did not believe he did it accidently. The teachers knew his home life was not good and the other two places where Devonte would go would be school or on the street. The teachers made sure they saw him a couple times a day to make sure he was doing all right throughout this horrific experience. It is nice that the students who feel like they have no one actually have someone they can trust.
Student at those school who shoot others are affecting other students because of the consequences it has on them. The students who didn’t cause the act but is affected by them can become aggressive due to frustration-aggression hypothesis. Aggressive is any behavior that involves the intention to harm someone else. Frustration-aggression hypothesis is the more frustrated we feel, the more likely we are to act aggressively. Thomas, who has seen lots of shootings, felt like this and because of this her wanted to hurt other people to take our his frustration and make himself feel better.
They have terrible stereotypes about one another. If you are in one gang that means you are uncool and they will shoot you or if you live in a certain neighborhood they will beat you up. They had so much prejudice against each other even though they never really knew each other. They would go out of their way to hurt one of the other gang members whether it was their family, friends, or that person alone. The hurting of another person because of prejudice is called discrimination. This is getting so bad they have to walk in the middle of the street just in case they get mugged. Teachers have to pick them up because they feel unsafe. When they get to school they feel safer. Their attitude toward school is welcoming and protected place. They want to go to school and stay as long as they can because it is an implicit attitude they have toward feeling safe.
Key Terms: Frustration, frustration-aggression hypothesis, stereotypes, prejudice, discrimination, attitude, and implicit attitude
First I would like to say that we live in a very privileged society. For the people that live within the suburbs of chicago and go to this school seem to be accustomed to people getting shot every day. These stories that were told made me feel for these people. People getting shot was an everyday experience. Now if that happened within our community, that person would be found and brought to justice, or if that person was killed, the community would come together as a whole and have a funeral service for this person. I do appreciate what the people that work there do to try to improve the overall moral within the school. The principal is going into the heart of the school, the hallways, and saying that she appreciates them and like that they are there. While most of the students are part of group or clan and is known as deindividuation. The staff combats the violence of gangs by attempting to monitor all of the students and their overall well-being. Now these gangs, they aren’t joinable, people are assigned to these gangs. Now whether or not you want to be in a gang, you are automatically in that gang. It is a social norm within the community for everyone in the gang. Being in a gang can lead to conformity, where the attitude of the student is usually shared between the rest of the gang. Now not every member of the group has to comply to the thoughts of the gang, but those that do follow through with these thoughts and act on these thoughts have obedience towards the gang.
Terms Deindividuation, conformity, social norms, compliance, obedience
This episode was so interesting, shocking, and depressing all at the same time. I really enjoyed listening to it because of the interest I have in people that have to live with these day to day problems and scares. I can’t even imagine being a high school student and seeing multiple shootings like these students that are being interviewed at Harper High School in Chicago, Illinois. In the 2011-2012 school year, there were 29 shootings. 21 students were wounded and 8 students were murdered. This is unheard of in my hometown. Where I am from, shootings happen in places elsewhere, so I never had to worry about my own personal safety just living where I live and going to school whereas, this is a constant worry for these Harper students.
I think people like Anita and Crystal are very helpful in these areas. They bring positivity and encouragement to these students. They bring such optimistic attitudes into these areas. Without these women, alongside the other staff, I believe that these students would be so unbelievably helpless. They don’t have much support outside of school because many are in unstable households. The way that Crystal walks down the hall, supervising, and basically cheering on the students. She tries to get their excitement up about school and it works a lot of times, but a lot of students also see it as forced. In the first and second episode, they focused on one specific student, Devonte. When he was 15 years old, he had accidentally shot his 14 year old brother. This has obviously haunted Devonte ever since. At the beginning, he just couldn’t sleep. One night, his mother had drunkenly said, “Devonte shot my baby boy.” Soon, his sister wouldn’t even talk to him. This hurt Devonte so much. He blamed himself a lot for the accident, so much that he couldn’t even sleep at night without some sort of sleep aid. Harper High School’s administration advised Devonte not to come to school for a while because they were worried about Devonte’s safety. After some time passed, he returned and went back to being a full time student at Harper. He was interviewed again after getting back into the routine. During the interview, Devonte vocalized that he hates himself for what he has done and even more so because of the way people were acting towards him. He said that his family members didn’t act like anything had changed except for the fact that they hated him. “They look at me stupid”, were his exact words, explaining how his relatives look down on him and give him the cold shoulder. A few short weeks later, Crystal noticed that Devonte had been absent from classes for about ten days. She had been hearing rumors from his peers, but she wanted to get the true facts, so she reached out to Devonte’s mother. Mrs. Grant informed Crystal that Devonte had been picked up by the police on gun charges and went to court. After going to court, Devonte ran away and is still, to date of February 22, 2013, nowhere to be found. Crystal spoke to him once and reminded him to keep the good in him.
I think this story is so incredibly sad because Devonte’s life just spiraled out of control because of the gang life he was involved in. I think for him, what really got him was deindividuation. Underneath the gang violence he was and still is involved in, I think he was truly a nice, good kid. It was so obvious that he cared and loved his brother, mother, and Crystal. I just think he was just so conformed in the negative social norms that he lost the positive side of his personality. Based on what I just said, I think the way Devonte is, is based on his situational attributions. Whereas if he was taken out of the situation (living in a gang filled area, such as Chicago) he wouldn’t be in such compliance of violence or even aggressive towards others. I’m not saying that he was a violent person, because I don’t know him personally, but I do believe that if he was raised elsewhere, he would be a different person.
Psychological terms: Attitude, deindividuation, situational attribution, conformed, social norms, compliance, aggression
After listening to these episodes I found myself dumbfounded. After hearing how many kids had been shot and how many actually passed away I couldn’t believe this wasn’t found to be a bigger deal than it was. Also, the fact that children have to go to school in fear of gangs makes me realized how blessed I am to be living in the community I do, but still makes me aware of my surroundings due that I live close to Chicago. Another thing that shocked me was how young the kids were when they joined these gangs and how it was just a part of their lifestyle. There was no questioning they just listened to the rules told to them. In the end though I thought how it was sweet how the one women would go around the school and told the kids how important they were and made them feel like they meant something.
Knowing what I read from previous chapters in our book, I saw many examples of what was being talked about in the book to this community. For example, since many young men join the gangs because it is what they are use to seeing and growing up with this would be called conformity because they want to be like everyone else. Also, self-fulfilling prophecy was very evident when listening to the talk show. Since kids grew up seeing that everyone else joined gangs them, themselves thought this was the way of life and wanted to form to people’s expectations. Another would be social exposure. Since the kids living in this neighborhood were always around the gangs that was what they were use too. Also the people in the gangs had many negative thoughts toward them from far away cities or people close to where the gangs were developed which is an example of people being prejudice.
Key Terms: conformity, self-fulfilling prophecy, social exposure, prejudice
This episode about Harper High School, makes me very sad not only because it would be terrible to lose your classmates as much as they do, but also because of how much attention this doesn’t receive. No, the shootings are not occurring at school like others we hear about on the news, but they certainly should not be overlooked. Harper High School is in Chicago in the neighborhood of Englewood, and it is unlike any other school in Chicago. It is said that the school is very well taken of, looks nice and well put together on the outside and Leonetta Sanders takes good care of her students on the inside. There are 16 bodyguards in this school and the students are loved and well appreciated, some administrators even pick the students up for school to make sure they arrive and are safe. However, the neighborhood around doesn’t act as well as the school does. Dozens have been shot within the past year with 8 being fatal (according to Act 2). The social structures of this school are unlike any other I’ve ever heard. There are certain “cliques” and stereotypes in high school as everyone knows, but in Harper High School these “cliques” are known as gangs. The gang affiliation is well known by the school and throughout the neighborhood, because you don’t have to want to join a gang, you are assigned one by the location of where you live. Even a Chicago police officer says that the kids don’t have a choice.
Social psychology is presented many times within these two acts. A shocking one is about how gangs are considered to be a social norm at this school. Social norms are expected standards on conducts that influence behavior. The police, school officials, families, students, etc know how gangs run in this neighborhood, even though it isn’t okay, it is what it is. Another example is the usage of ingroup and outgroup bias. Ingroups are the people you fight for, you love, and die for, that can relate to how gangs work. But in this particular situation, ingroups may take it as far as killing others or shooting others who aren’t apart of their gang (outgroups) to stick up for one of their own gang members.
I found it interesting when the certain “rules” were brought up. There are seven rules that people who attend Harper High School follow. Rule 1, look at a map, this is used to know what gang you are apart of. Rule 2, never walk by yourself, because you are at more of a risk of getting jumped. Contradicting to rule 2, rule 3 is never walking with someone else, because you don’t want to see like you’re trying to start something. Rule 4, never walk on the sidewalk, walking on the street is safer for extra time to run and not having to worry about people jumping out from behind trees. Rule 5, if they shoot don’t run, falling to ground will decrease risk of being hit by shots not meant for you. Rule 6, the shots are fired for reasons big or small, like girls, not paying money back, or even over paintball. It’s meant for retaliation between gangs. Finally, rule 7, never go outside, not sit on the porch, not walk around the block, and it helps to stay at school as long as you can. Those rules to me are mind-blowing, and I can’t imagine living where I’m afraid to stand outside or even walk on the sidewalk. There are always risks living in a neighborhood like this, and that is eye opening.
The psychological terms I used were: stereotypes, social norms, ingroup bias, outgroup bias
This week’s episodes humbled me. I always took going to school for granted. I can’t imagine always living in fear of being shot, even in your own yard. The violence in Harper High School’s neighborhood is all gang related. That is one of the biggest obstacles the school faces. The students join gangs out of fear or because it is the norm. The consequences of the gang violence surround them, but most of them have no choice. This idea is totally foreign to me. The town I grew up in was a very safe community. We left our doors unlocked at night, and we never worried about someone getting shot. In fact, there hasn’t been a murder in our town since it was founded over 250 years ago.
Harper high school almost seems to be a safe haven for its students. It’s a place where the teachers and staff care about the students. I’m sure for some of the students, it is the only place where someone cares about them. That’s why I think it’s sad the school was losing funding. In the need hierarchy, the most important psychology need is safety. Without the safety of the school, the students could struggle with things like esteem, belonging or love.
The other thing that surprised me was the difference in the social norms. I was learning about how these can differ in my sociology class a few weeks ago. Around campus we like to make connections to people. Some of the first things we do when we meet people is to find mutual friends. In Harper, that is a really bad thing to do. Alliances can be crossed between gangs, which can lead to more violence. Each block has different rules to follow, just to stay alive. I can’t think of any norms in this area that are life or death. (Except for text and driving.)
Harper high school really broke my stereotype of inner city schools in Chicago. From stories I hear, I always assumed that most of the kids in the schools didn’t care about their education. I am so ashamed by this. I was amazed by the relationship between the students and teachers. Go Harper!
Terms: norms, need hierarchy, stereotypes
After listening to the Harper High School; This American Life Episode, I was not only surprised but I was petrified. I am fortunate enough to have grown up in a small and safe school district with extremely rare violent acts. Wherever these Harper High students lived, they were considered to be a part of a gang even if they wanted zero affiliation with them. They lived by social norms just to survive the day which included a set of rules to follow; do not walk alone, walk on the street and be aware, if you are shot at, do not run, fall on the ground, and do not take the sidewalk. When these students follow these rules, this is an example of compliance and conformity because these are ways for them to survive. It makes me sad to think that these students are living in fear of walking out of their homes because of the amount of gun violence that has occurred from gang to gang.
Throughout the interviews with the Harper High School students, I noticed that some of them had a strong aggression due to the violence happening in Chicago. Thomas, a Harper High School student, explained that when he thinks about gang violence he’ll “do something” meaning, he will hurt somebody. This is where Crystal Smith and Anita Stewart come into play. These women work as social workers at Harper High School, and are a strong influence on the students, especially Smith. Her happy and joyful personality attracts the students and her positive attitude encourages the students to do better in certain aspects of life. When guns were discussed in This American Life, I noticed that the students became accustomed to them because they are around them everyday whether it is hiding a gun, seeing one on the streets, or finding one in a garbage can. This is an example of the mere exposure effect. The more they are exposed; students develop a fondness for them. When these students experience violence or a loss in their life they encounter deindividuation, which means, they reach a state of reduced self-awareness, attention to personal standards, and individuality. The ending result to these losses is the lack of motivation. Their performance levels and attendance at school may decrease as well as, their social life.
Overall, I believe that nobody should ever live their life in fear. At Harper High School, the faculty is trying their hardest to make improvements to their education system. Having great staff members such as, Crystal Smith, will improve social facilitation because of her cheerful presence. It is important to realize that gang violence does not only occur in Chicago but several other states such as, Florida, Texas, Philadelphia, and many more. With each state well aware of the horrible gang violence taking place, I believe that people will try to improve their communities and education systems to ensure a decrease in gun affiliation.
Terms: Social Norms, Compliance, Conformity, Aggression, Attitude, Mere Exposure Effect, Deindividuation, Motivation, Social Facilitation
This episode was extremely sad. I couldn’t imagine what it’d feel like to fear going to school. And how much education would suffer, or that there are schools around where kids fear for their lives to even walk into every day. I went to a small high school of about 300 kids total and everyone knew everyone and we all go along for the most part. Hearing about gang interaction really has to deal with in-groups; all the members have the same interests and are tight knit. It’s sad that the kids in this school end up being the way they are based on the location they are raised in. The socialization of the area affects them and makes them who they are and they have no option. Harper High School has so many gangs that it has become a social norm to be in one, which is crazy to think about that a high school has this problem. The students don’t stand a chance of receiving what we would consider a normal education. With everything that has happened at Harper High School I cannot believe that I hadn’t heard about it. But it goes to show that these things are way too common and violence is a huge issue. The whole episode is an example of in-group and out-groups. With the single gangs being the in-groups and all the other groups that aren’t that specific gang being the out-group and the interactions between the two are severely violent, and that happens all around the world between these two different type of groups. A few psychological terms that pertain to this episode are conformity, stereotype, and discrimination. Although gangs are extremely prevalent and the area is very violent it would be stereotypical to say that every kid from that area is involved in a gang. Conformity is when people may not feel like they have an option and become part of a group that they are “supposed to be a part of” simply because it is what they are surrounded by, just like when they said gangs can be determined by the area you grew up in.
Psychological Terms: in-groups, out-groups, violence, conform, stereotype, and discriminate
These two episodes were very eye opening for me. I knew the south side of Chicago was typically a bad area involving shootings and guns, however; I had no idea it was this bad. It was kind of hard from me to wrap my head around this at first. I grew up in Cascade, Iowa, where we have a population of around 2,000 people. In a tiny town like this, hearing a siren from an ambulance or fire truck causes everyone to look around and ask what’s going on. On the contrary, you have Harper High School, where 29 people have been shot. My small town and the neighborhoods around Harper High School are like two completely different worlds. There are many different types of gangs that swirl around the school, and I can’t imagine the stress on the staff of Harper High. In the first episode, an issue arises during homecoming week. A student is shot on Thursday, the day before the homecoming game and dance, causing a major issue for the school administrators to solve out. Do they let the game and dance go on and risk another shooting? Or do they cancel the game and dance for precautionary reasons? These are examples of the decisions the Harper High School staff have to make regularly. Having to always be on high alert of danger would be unbelievably stressful to say the very least. The social norms and body language have even adapted to this neighborhood. For example, it is a social norm to not walk by yourself around this neighborhood in fear of being shot. Instead people walk in groups, but not actual groups we envision. A boy was walking home with a group, the other members of the ‘group’ were fifteen feet behind him. It is also basically a social norm to be in a gang; hardly anyone isn’t. In the first episode, the security police officer was asked how you can avoid being involved with a gang. “You can’t,” he responded. It really is sad how much of a role gangs and violence play in these young kids lives. In the second episode, a kid admits to receiving his first gun at twelve years old. It really is mind blowing for me to think about growing up like this. South Chicago would be a very difficult place to live, however; by the sound of these two episodes, they make it work. They adjust to what their dealt with to make Harper High School the safest place it can be. Terms: stress, social norms, body language
According to this report, there was a shooting at in Chicago near Harper High School in which twenty-nine students were injured, and eight students died. Usually, this kind of event would make national news. However, this event did not. The fact that this story was not spread around the country is very disappointing. I feel that as a citizen of this country, I would want to know about shootings that go on around the country. Chicago is very well known for its gun violence and shootings. As a child going to this school, I would be terrified to continue going to a school in which twenty-nine of its students got shot. Overall, this episode made me realize how lucky I am to have grown up in a safe, gun-free environment.
There are several things that also came to my mind as I listened to this report. The first thing that came to my mind was deindividuation. This is defined as the state of reduced individuality, self-awareness, and attention to one’s own standards. This usually occurs when people are in groups. Since this episode stated that the shootings were gang-related, I felt that deindividuation was a huge aspect in that community. More specifically, the risky-shift effect is when people in groups make more dangerous decisions than the individuals outside of the group would not normally do alone. For example, I feel that if some of the gang members were by themselves, they would not be participating in the violence that is usually associated with gangs. Since gangs tend to be very intense, they make risky, more intense decisions as a group. Another principle that came to my mind was normative influence, which is what occurs when one makes a decision in order to be accepted or to avoid looking foolish. Members of gangs are required to do very intense actions, and rather than turning away from the huge risk, individuals comply with the request of the gang so as not to let them down, or to become more accepted into the group. Deindividuation and normative influences are huge principles that are present in the community. I feel that for gang-related crimes to stop, individuals must question their own standards and ask themselves if they would be participating in the violence if they were not a part of the gang. I feel that this would cause individuals to consider their decisions more carefully. However, this may not be a complete cure for this issue.
Deindviduation and normative influences are just some of the many social psychological principles operating in this district. This has always been a difficult subject, and it is very hard put a complete stop to violence and aggression. However, I feel that if everyone works harder as a community to reach out to those struggling in any way, a difference could be made in someone’s life.
Terms: Deindividuation, risky-shift effect, normative influence, aggression.
Wow. That is really all I have to say. I was shocked at the prologue of this recording. There were so many kids who had been shot at and injured and even a handful of those students had died as a result. The recording talks about how nice of a school Harper is and how the students and faculty get along so well, but then why is it such a nasty, bad place? Later in the show they talk about the kids are involved in gangs. The faculty members are very understanding about where the kids come from and the gangs that they are involved in. What I thought was very interesting were how they want to help the students with the problems they have with other students.
This recording goes well with what I found most interesting in Chapter 11 Social Psychology. The topic I talked about in my last blog post was the topic on justification of effort, which is the amount of effort someone puts into a group because they feel how important the group is. In this situation the kids don’t have any say in being in the gang or not. They are a part of a gang based on the block that they live on. For these kids being in a gang is a social norm for them. The book says that a social norm is driving on the correct side of the road. That society has rules that we need to follow. For the students at Harper high school a social norm for them is being in a gang. Another social norm for these kids are avoiding the gangs at all costs. They do whatever they can to be at school as late as possible, and they also stay inside their homes never going outside because of the chance of being shot. The kids behave in prosocial ways. Prosocial means that you behave in a way that benefits others. When all the students are home away from school they behave in a prosocial way by staying inside. This is beneficial to the other students because they are not going to look for each other because they are in gangs and they are not outside putting themselves and others in danger. This prosocial behavior that a majority of the students have shows that they all share similar attitudes, or feelings, towards their situations of being in gangs at Harper high school.
Terms, Attitude, prosocial, justification of effort, social norm
When this episode started, it stated this school lost three students. My first thought maybe it was a car accident, a school shooting was the farthest from my mind because I haven’t heard about this school shooting at all on the news. To me this is a little bizarre how this didn’t make the news. Once I heard the actual reason my heart dropped. During this school shooting, 21 teens were wounded while 8 lost their life. This is such a tragic event that didn’t need to happen. I am from a small town in the north east corner of Iowa and my high school hasn’t had anything like this happen to us. We have had some car accidents where kids lost their lives but nothing as big as this. I couldn’t imagine living in fear like these kids do every single day of their life. The video said they shouldn’t even go out on their porch because they could get hurt even worse have their life taken from them for no reason. In these neighborhood near harper school every kid is apart of gang, they absolutely have no chi In the first part of the video, a police officer talks to one of the reports about the rules kids abide by. The first rule is know the geography, in other words know the neighborhoods around you. The second rule never walk alone because it could make you more able to be jumped. Third never walk with anyone because this would lead people to think you are in a gang. Fourth never walk on the sidewalk. Most kids walk in the middle of the road. The fifth rule is you are shoot at, don’t run. The last rule is people shot at you for big or small reasons. These reasons range from drugs to fights over girls. Most of the time, however, gang fights are really over nothing at all. The shooting during homecoming was also saddening to hear. During their homecoming dance and game they had to have teachers stay at there to make sure no shootings occurred. This is crazy to me because I came from a pretty average safe place. It’s so sad to think these kids can’t have a normal high school career because they are always watching their backs to make sure they don’t get hurt. And the worst part of it is, is that they have no control over what happens because if you run they will eventually get you and you can’t go outside anywhere by yourself without worrying if you will get hurt. One concept in this chapter which relates to this video is stereotypes. Stereotypes relate to this because when the kid comes to school the vice principal asks him what gang he is in and what part of the neighborhood he lives in. Self-fulfilling prophecy could also relate to this because students are forced to participate in gangs and are influenced by others in horrible ways. Another concept that could relate is complex attitude because some kids are in gangs and do horrible things and they may not even want to be apart of it.
Terms- Stereotyping, Complex attitude, Self-Fulfilling prophecy
These episodes brought me many different emotions. Part of me felt devastated for the teens that live this life every single day, but part of me is so encouraged by the amount of dedication that the adults have put forth to try and create a better life for them. I could not believe the things that the members of this high school had to endure between the shootings and the deaths. They had gangs and safety down to a science, and I think it is really sad that this is forced upon them if they want to survive. There are many parts of social psychology present in this podcast. One that stuck out to me the most was stereotypes. They said in the beginning of the podcast that there had been virtually no acknowledgement from the media because this high school was located in a bad neighborhood, so it was expected. People are being shot and it is not even being acknowledged. The principal and the counselor are trying so hard to turn around the school and the students around, but every time they take a step forward, they just fall back into social norms. I think that this is definitely a self-fulfilling prophecy. If you expect the students to do bad things, chances are they will. That is what makes the situation so disappointing. The students could be successful, but they are not given a chance. Listening to this podcast made me evaluate the stressors in my life versus the stressors in these students’ lives. I have it so easy compared to them, they literally have to worry about living another day. I think that this is an eye-opening thing to think about, it is ridiculous that on top of the daily stressors of being a teenager they have such serious things to worry about. There is definitely a sense of ingroup and outgroup bias at Harper High School. The students are practically forced to be in a gang based solely on where they live in the neighborhood. This automatically creates a group of people that you are to be a part of, and the group of enemies that do not belong. This leads to many attitudes, not only towards the people not in your gang, but towards life and morals in general. The counselor tried really hard to stop physical violence, but the teen was so stuck in his attitude, he could not make any promises. The staff at Harper High School was trying to persuade others to help with the state of the school, but they just cannot do it on their own. All the ingroups and attitudes lead to a sense of deindividuation, as well. They pay attention to their group, not to individual details of situations. Hearing about this makes my so thankful for the support from my hometown. There is always a sense of community and genuine care for one another. I cannot imagine what it would be like to have this be a reality. I can only hope that things get better in this community in the future.
Terms: Social Psychology, Stereotypes, Social Norms, Self-Fulfilling Prophecy, Stressors, Ingroup and Outgroup Bias, Attitude, Persuasion, Deindividuation
While listening to this reports, there was a shooting near Harper High School in Chicago. During this shooting, a total of 29 students were hurt and 8 students actually died. The most surprising this was that this event did not make national news, which is very surprising because usually an event that is so catastrophic would make national news. When listening to this, I became kind of upset because I would like to know if there is a shooting. The people in Chicago probably didn't think anything of it because Chicago is typically known for their gain violence and they can not possibly let every citizen know about all of the shootings or other types of violence that happen there. In our world today, there are so many discriminations towards other people and our world is becoming very corrupt. We have come a long way with prejudice, but it still takes place even today. People are prejudice towards others by the way someone looks, talks, or acts and this is not okay. Since the music business and tv business has shot up within the last twenty years or so people look up to famous people and want to be just like them which causes people to become so judgmental especially in the younger generations because that is what humans are conditioned to do. I am so thankful for how I was brought up and I am very fortunate that I never really had to do with gang affiliated problems. I grew up in a catholic school my whole entire life until coming here to UNI and it has been an eye opener because coming from a really small school you don't have to worry as much about other people judging you like you do here. I believe that people need to quit being so mean to each other because honestly we are all the same no matter what color our skin is or where we come from. If everyone was just nice to each other and didn't judge other people for the things that they do our world would be a lot better, but it probably would never change because in our world we are conditioned to be “perfect.” When listening to this articles I was just overall grateful that I never had to deal with any forms of violence, but honestly it could happen anywhere. We are hearing more and more about kids who have sever mental disabilities who are being made fun of which causes them to retaliate and do stupid things to hurt others who hurt them. This makes me so grateful that there are people who are trying to help the kids get over these traumatic experiences and help them live their live because they could potentially have a form of PTSD.
Some psychology terms that I used were social norms, discrimination, prejudice, mental disabilities, PTSD
I thought both episodes of This American Life were crazy. It is weird to think that some kids cannot travel to and from school safely, and gun violence is an everyday occurrence. I have never felt “unsafe” at school, so it is hard for me to imagine what that would be like. I feel it would take a toll on schoolwork and increase dropout rates. Which, seems to be the case. I also thought it was interesting to hear an inside perspective of today’s high school gangs. The fact that kids “don’t have a choice” whether or not to join a gang also blows my mind. In all reality, it is possible, but it wouldn’t be an easy road. 29 shootings at a school does not seem like an enticing option for prospective students though. When the school is surrounded by gang territory, it is a wonder it all stays off grounds.
I feel that the whole high school is controlled by social status. It seems as no one can think for themselves, and literally everyone is part of a gang. Their high school is the same as everywhere else, with school events and classes, but the students seem to follow more pack like instincts. The gang affiliation is by territory, and most of the time there is no drug dealing or racketeering going on. The gangs do hold true for the gun wielding. The missing factor is the reason for the violence. No one thinks for themselves, group mentality is what is used. For both survival and attack the gangs feel it is necessary to stay ahead. This baffles me, as I am from a smaller more rural town. Mindless killing is an everyday thing in some places, but some are able to rise above it.
These episodes are absolutely heart wrenching. All the violence going on is shocking. I personally can’t imagine what those kids go through and all the pain and worries they face and for that I’m thankful. Whenever there is a death among my community, which is mostly of natural causes, is tough and sometimes hard to bear let alone having several deaths, of kids even, by violence is unimaginable. After hearing both these episodes, I realized that what I would consider just a nightmare, is actually real life for these kids and I wouldn’t even know where to start in regards to handling all that stress if I were in their shoes. These kids are real and their stories are real. They aren’t just some target at a shooting range but unfortunately many don’t see it that way. The story about Devonte really disturbed me. I really believe that he never meant to hurt his brother and that they were simply two boys curious about the gun and playing like brothers do but I’m saddened to hear that the simple, boyish curiosity didn’t end the way we hoped. Accidents happen and I truly feel great sorrow in knowing that Devonte’s life took such a big turn for the worse. No one deserves to see that kind of thing or believe that you were the sole cause of the brother’s death. More importantly, I’m sorry that he couldn’t get the support he needed. I certainly don’t blame his family for their reactions to the death of their son and brother because I’m not sure I would have been able to look at Devonte the same either but Devonte needed the love more than anything at that time. To go through such a fate would be utterly impossible alone. To make matters worse, he was the one with his little brother’s blood on his hands and he was punishing himself enough just because of that. It is nice that he was however able to speak with a counselor and feel safer in school because without that, I don’t know that Devonte would have made it as long as he did. Some of the social psychology aspects that were presented in Harper were ingroup/outgroup biases that were associated with gang affiliation, competition and cooperation that stemmed from the need to prove which gang was the alpha and who had the last word, stereotypes and perception that was shown in the story about TG and how the one gang waged war on him and his buddy because they assumed they were a part of a rival gang, cooperation in the classroom that was shown how easily there was conflict whether it was because of gang violence, retaliation, or even things as simple as hunger, social exposure because the kids were automatically in the gangs depending on where they lived, and so many other social psychology aspects. There truly was a long list of social psychological trends within the school system, some good, some bad and it made me realize that psychology is everywhere and it can help with so many issues we face today. Some of the psychological terms I used were curiosity, reactions, support, ingroup/outgroup bias, competition and cooperation, stereotypes and perception, cooperation in the classroom, and social exposure.
After listening to this heart breaking story of this high school it makes me feel like we need to take more action. I think that this was a high school that didn’t get attention in the news because it is a school with problems in it. Unlike Sandybrook Elementary School it was innocent lives being taken and it was a good story for the news. It was a good story because people felt bad about the innocent children being killed and all the lives sacrificed to avoid even more deaths. It was a heart-warming story that many people feel sorry for them. Which we all should it was a sad story. This story about Harper High School was different because it was different gangs going after each other and didn’t have as much going for a good story for everyone to relate to. This took place in Chicago where shootings happen all the time.
Harper High School was not those gangs that were drug dealers or the tradition gangs we all think about when we hear the word “gang”. Which is a stereotype, in itself. These gangs were given stereotypes from each other and that is why they were shot. I’m going to assume there was prejudice and discrimination throughout the school. Attitudes of the kids were harsh towards each other because of the associated gangs. These gangs were formed from location in the city and that is why there was so much discrimination between them. These people had no right to go and kill these other people it was just what they believed in because of their gangs. They were persuaded to do these things from other members. All these members were obedient to the others as well because they didn’t want to die. I don’t think that this was right but I do sort of understand some of the reasons behind people thinking it is the right thing to do. They thought they could fit in or save the lives of family and themselves if they killed or wounded others. They were brainwashed in persuasion. They followed the rules of the leaders and did what they were told because of the reasons.
Key terms: stereotypes, prejudice, discrimination, persuade, obedience
This episode of This American Life was very heartbreaking. I cannot believe that this is how a community can live. It's not even really living--it's more surviving than anything. Coming from a small town of 500 in rural Iowa, I can't imagine going through what those kids, families and teachers have to go through. Until a few years ago I always thought gangs weren't really a real thing, just something in movies. Then some gangs started migrating from Chicago to Cedar Rapids, the closest large city that has just about zero gang life.
I always think of my home and school as places that I can be safe, in the arms of my family, friends, and teachers who are trying to educate me. I can't imagine being in a "gang" with my classmates; and having opposing gangs at that. How can you shoot someone who you shared your Legos or gameboy with? It's really sad that these kids basically don't even have a choice, and that it's a stigma that they're born into. It is not fair to them at all; if they had been born anywhere else, they probably would've had a better quality of life. I don't know how any student could possibly be successful in school with everything going on, school is a big stressor in itself. It'd be impossible.
In my community, it is shattering for any one person to die in a unexpected way, and everything is shaken for months. It is unthinkable to imagine 8 students dying from gang shootings. I just don't understand why they think it's okay! Living here would be a major life stressor. There is no real reason for opposition besides inherited gang "enemies" from people who were in the gangs before them. If only everyone there could start thinking for themselves. I'm assuming theres very few students who are the ringleaders and they coerce or pressure the other kids on the block. Plus it is easy to follow the social norm and do what everyone else has done. I hope not everyone can be that awful, though. The whole situation is just so sad.
Terms:
quality of life, stressor, stigma, major life stressor, social norm
This episode I did not like at all. I felt bad for the kids because they couldn’t or didn’t feel safe walking back from school. I would not want to go to school knowing that it is not safe to walk home. I thought it was weird that people really do not have a choice. If they walk by themselves they are in danger and if they walk with other people they are considered a gang and could get shot. I felt bad for the children. At my school we had one incident where someone fired a gun near our high school and we were in lock-down for the whole day. This happened during my sophomore year and I remember that I felt scared. The teachers did everything they could to protect us and I remember that at 2:30 pm we finally got the all clear that everything was safe. I do remember that as I was driving home after school I still felt scared just because of everything that happened that day. I can’t imagine what the students at Harper High School feel like. The beginning of the episode talked about how many students had been shot a year earlier. This made me think of the Columbine massacre that happened years ago. Even though this was at a college it was still sad that many people were shot. It is weird that these things happen at schools places that are not normally talked about. I would not want to send my son/daughter to this school. I would not like the thought that my child might be shot at by walking in the streets.
One principle that noticed that was at this high school was norms. When we think of the first day of school we usually get a general idea of how things will go. We usually think of students and teachers getting to know each other and students learning where everything in the building is at. Students are expected to be on their best behavior. At Harper High school, the first day of school was very different. Everyone was told to be quiet so they could mourn everybody that had been shot the year earlier. I felt so bad for the students at this school because nobody should have to go through a shooting, especially in high school. I wish that these things did not happen and that people could go to school without being scared that they might get shot that day.
School violence is a serious thing, especially in the inner cities around the U.S. It is hard for people to understand this around the Midwest because they are usually small town schools and do not deal with such degrees of violence, but I know about the violence that happen in schools. The 15 year old girl that was murdered in Chicago was hard to hear because it is that is too young of an age to die, she could have moved mountains, but now we will never know because her life was taken too early. I would guess that the young adolescent kids were heavily effected by external variables, which effects their actions, otherwise their situational attributes. They may be constantly paranoid because of the constant shootings and violence that these kids experience in their lives. The thing that I imagine that these kids are going through is a lot of self-fulfilling prophecies. These kids that live in the slums and poverty are down right from the start. They're born into a world of violence and learn how to survive, not how to go to school. Gang wars are slowly becoming the invisible war that no one sees. There are so many cities around America that are infested with gangs and violence, and it is truly becoming a terrifying factor in our country. It sucks that gangs are getting to the point where there is no more initiation, it just depends on where you live on the block. The rules are so confusing when they were explaining about being in a group and not being in a group and walking on the sidewalk. There is no way I could live like that, I would beg my family to move somewhere else. It wouldn't matter where, it would just have to be away from the large cities. The reasons for gangs fighting against each other is so stupid, they no longer have legitimate reasons. It used to be because of drugs, money, or some feud that happened a long time ago between two certain groups. There's gangs that just shoot around aimlessly and end up shooting the innocent, then there are the gangs that have legitimate operations and proper rules. Those type of gangs are the scariest, the ones that act like a military system and work like a well oiled machine. I am talking about legitimate gangs that everyone knows: Bloods, Crips, Latin Kings, Angels of Death, M16, 14k, Yakuza, The Mafia, Aryan Brotherhood. The list could go on and on, but those are some of the notorious gangs that are most dangerous. If all the gangs in the world unified, they could possibly stand a chance against the U.S. Military. I know people may think it is ridiculous, but the amount of weapon smuggling happening between gangs, they are really becoming militias. The story about the boy who shot is own brother on accident was such a sad story, I could never live with myself if I accidentally killed a family member. Prejudice, discrimination, attitude, social facilitation, conformity, social norms, and aggression all play parts in this school and community. There are so many different moving parts that are going on behind the scenes in this story and it is an obvious problem that needs to be stopped before it gets to an all out warfare. The one movie that gives a vivid image of gang violence is the movie Freedom Writers, and how each individual in the class would rather be at school because they hate being home, hate being with their gang, or just don't have a home to go back to. It was strange when they talked about how the school had a week of no violence because the football team was on a winning streak. It may sound a little cliché, but I have listen to a lot of music that is affiliated with the life of being in a gang or living in a environment where violence and shootings is the norm. Some artist that describe their lives are Kendrick Lamar, Logic, Dizzy Wright, Joey, Ab Soul, and many more. There music describes their perspective of living and growing up in the struggle of gang affiliation. They have lost many friends and family members to the gang life, so they made music because they needed people to hear their stories and wanted a chance to get out of that life riddled with violence. One song that went into great detail of trying to get out of the gang life is a song called Black Boy Fly. The story describes the perspective of a young boy who is witnessing a few Idols of his make it out of the city of Compton. He dreamed of getting away from all the violence and worked hard in school in order to achieve the dream of getting out of Compton. The few black boys that made it out of Compton had talent and great potential to accomplish great things and the artist (Kendrick) was terrified they were going to be the last black boys to make it out of Compton. The only chance that Kendrick had of making it out of Compton was rap, writing lyrics and becoming a musical icon. It was in a sense, his last resort, and he thankfully did achieve his dream and did not become a prisoner of Compton. The thing about gang life is there is only two ways out, death or becoming bigger than the gang life itself. Crime waves are becoming bigger than tsunamis, and are swallowing up young up the lives of innocent teenagers. There are so many young people praying to make it to see another day, which is such a sad thought. No one should have to live their lives in constant fear of being shot or family members and friends being killed or injured. Gang violence is no joke, and a lot of people who are born into this gang world would give anything to live in a normal city like Cedar Falls. Cedar Falls compared to cities like Detroit, Compton, Chicago, Baltimore, Denver, Miami, or New York is truly like a safe haven. We do have crime, but the crime here is nothing compared to other cities around America. This podcast was definitely a reminder of how much of a plague gang violence is becoming, and I pray for everyone who is living in that hellish environment to make it out alive. The only hope for gangs to become nonexistent is love and unity. A psychologist could do as much research as they want about gang life, but the obvious answer to this problem is love. People need to put aside their petty differences and become civil human beings.
terms: situational attributions, self-fulfilling prophecy, prejudice, attitudes, discrimination, social facilitation, conformity, social norms, obedience, aggression
The social norm is that you are apart of a gang. The police officer said that there was not a way for them to not be in a gang. That is just what happens. The police officer said that there use to be a way to not be in a gang. Now there is not a way to be in a gang. One way this could happen is because it is a mere exposure effect. The gangs could have been there for a long time. Because they were there for a long time people could have got use to it. When they got use to it then it was a social norm. There could be normative and informational influence. Normative influence is when you are in a gang because they want to feel apart. Informative influence is when they are in a gang because that is what is happening to everyone. If you did not want to be apart of a gang then you probably had to conform. Being part of a gang was a social norm. There was one kid that did not conform. The show said that he had Bible study in his house. This kid did not conform. One of the kids in the show said that he wanted to do something to hurt someone. He actually did do that to someone. The show said that he hit the kid really hard that there was a tooth in his hand. This kid has a lot of aggression. There was a lot of aggression in the show. The show was about what aggression has done. There was a lot of ingroups and outgroups. If you were apart of a gang then they were your ingroup. The other gangs were outgroups. There was obedience in the school. There was not a lot of bad things that happened in the school. The principle did things to have obedience. On the night of the dance she had a lot of police officers. The security in the school helps make sure that there is obedience. The obedience keeps the school safe. There is not a lot of obedience not in the school.
Social norm, mere exposure effect, normative influence, informative influence, conform, aggression, ingroups, outgroups, obedience
When I listened to this episode, I was shocked and so sad. Twenty nine kids at Harper high school in Chicago were shot and eight of them died. I think that it is so catastrophic event. Few days ago, I saw news that in Washington, a male student shot a gun at his classmates and three students died, as well as I heard a lot of gun fire at random events in United States. When I hear this kind of news, I am shocked and feel fear that because In Korea having a gun is prohibited, so gun fire event is very rare. Now faculties and students at the Harper school are trying to make this situation better very hard. In this story, we can find social psychology things that I learned and read in our textbook. There are some stereotypes in this story and our perception. Kids in this place and school are in gang, so most people think these kids are terrible and horrible children. However, it is stereotype in people’s perception. These children don’t have any choice about being in a gang and it is not bad all of these kids. Only the stereotype which is that people in gang are all terrible people makes people have wrong judge to these kids. Also, thought that people from Chicago are gangs and terrible because there are a lot of gangs in Chicago is another example of stereotype. Also, the story can be related to a term called compliance. Compliance is the act or process of complying a desire, demand, proposal, or coercion. People in gang are trying to match their behavior and thought to the group thought or norms. They behave to do something requested by group. They neglect their thoughts and adjust to group thoughts by losing their self-esteem. I think that it is one of factors to increase violence rates in social.
Terms: stereotypes, perception, compliance
The social norm is that you are apart of a gang. The police officer said that there was not a way for them to not be in a gang. That is just what happens. The police officer said that there use to be a way to not be in a gang. Now there is not a way to be in a gang. One way this could happen is because it is a mere exposure effect. The gangs could have been there for a long time. Because they were there for a long time people could have got use to it. When they got use to it then it was a social norm. There could be normative and informational influence. Normative influence is when you are in a gang because they want to feel apart. Informative influence is when they are in a gang because that is what is happening to everyone. If you did not want to be apart of a gang then you probably had to conform. Being part of a gang was a social norm. There was one kid that did not conform. The show said that he had Bible study in his house. This kid did not conform. One of the kids in the show said that he wanted to do something to hurt someone. He actually did do that to someone. The show said that he hit the kid really hard that there was a tooth in his hand. This kid has a lot of aggression. There was a lot of aggression in the show. The show was about what aggression has done. There was a lot of ingroups and outgroups. If you were apart of a gang then they were your ingroup. The other gangs were outgroups. There was obedience in the school. There was not a lot of bad things that happened in the school. The principle did things to have obedience. On the night of the dance she had a lot of police officers. The security in the school helps make sure that there is obedience. The obedience keeps the school safe. There is not a lot of obedience not in the school.
Social norm, mere exposure effect, normative influence, informative influence, conform, aggression, ingroups, outgroups, obedience
Listening to this radio discussion had me in a dumbfounded response. Growing up in a good polite town of Dewitt Iowa you don’t see that much violence. If you hear of anything its just two kids fighting over the last bag of chips. Being in a town like I described you don’t really think about the rundown old suburb schools like Harper. If there was to be a shooting at the school the news would be all over it but since its Chicago the crime capital of the world violence is just on occasions it’s a habit. When I found out eight kids were killed and 29 were wounded by gunshots there had to be some gang affiliation happening and that was just the case. Many of the kids had their gang or cliques that they were born into depending what section of the town you lived in. As I explained before about Dewitt being a great town and Harper being not so good I found my self being very stereotypical but its also correct places with high crime rates are bound to have poverty families who are in a lot of stress. Many of the kids attitudes effected how vulnerable to out on the street. There are seven rules that can help you get through the streets of Harper. Rule number 1 knowing your map I think kids have this rule so they understand what gang territory they are about to walk on. Rule number two never walk alone kids whose attitudes are negative towards the gangs tend to be the ones who walk along and get shot. Forming a clique with friends boost up your over all attitude due to your social exposer. Rule numbers three never walk with someone or you will be labeled as a gang member. Rule number four doesn’t use the sidewalk. Rule number five if they shot doesn’t run. Rule six you can be shot for any reason. Lastly rule number seven never go outside. All of these rules are given to kids on a street as a pro social way of benefiting others from getting hurt. You can also see this happening when assistant principle Mr. Adams discusses to a kid of the name Jordan to warn him of any news of crime so it doesn’t happen in the school so everyone can be safe. Over all on the social aspects of everything it pays a huge roll in here at Harper no matter what if you don’t want to be included you will always some how be affiliated with social aspects of the gangs and cliques because that’s how the Harper community works.
Terms: cliques, violence, stereotypical, stress, pro social, cliques, gangs
These episodes made me feel a mixture of emotions. Overall, it made me sad that so much violence has to occur for these kids, angry that this has to happen to kids in general and when people try to help they don’t have enough support, and it also made me happy that this wasn’t my own personal high school experience.
In Harper High, hard core violence has become a social norm. For example, in the radio show, they said that when you start school, you’re pretty much assigned into a gang. Like the kids said, that’s their only forms of protection. It’s almost like this community has altered their perceptions of the aggression throughout the entire situation. In one year, twenty nine students were shot and eight of them were killed. Some teens even said that it’s very uncommon to not be shot at. Even with that understanding, I feel as if these teens’ development is totally obscure. I can’t even imagine their anxiety and stress levels that these kids have. Especially because, what they’re dealing with is a major life stressor that will impact their cognitive development completely.
What especially hit home with me was the fact that the teachers want to help. Just the way that the principle talked to the students conveyed a good and clear message. She never put them down instead she reminded them how great they truly were. I also that that it was so amazing that if she were to receive a large chunk of money, she would invest it into the students no matter what the cause.
Overall, big changes need to be made in order to promote well-being and a better quality of life to everyone there. But, it can’t just be the voice of one high school; it has to be a voice from everyone (government, communities and volunteers) for a change to be among them.
TERMS: Perceptions, aggression, development, emotions, social norm, major life stressor, stress, well-being, quality of life, anxiety, and cognitive development.
Morgan Sowers
This episode made me feel horrible, while listening to these broadcasts I was astounded that 29 students were wounded and that eight of them were killed in a single year by gun shots from Harper High School; I’m surprised that it wasn’t even big news which makes me think it’s common/expected in cities likes Chicago. As someone who had a graduating class of 81 students in a town of 6,500 people, I had no idea that these types of situations truly existed, and only a few hours away. Harper High School in Englewood has roughly five hundred students, 16 security guards, and an all around fantastic staff that enforces rules with love and a joking manner but that doesn’t seem to be enough for these students. Gangs, a concept pretty foreign to me personally, is an ever-present issue in Englewood where students are assigned gang affiliation simply because of where they live. There is no shame associated with gangs and it is a very open discussion topic—there are no leaders, no hierarchies, no gang colors, hardly any gangs work in drugs but there are rules to be followed. 1) Look at a map: if you live on any block near Harper High a gang is assigned to you and those are the people you walk with so that other gangs won’t attack you. 2) Never walk alone, because there is shooting and fighting every day and nobody messes with you if you’re in a group. 3) Never walk with someone else because it sends a message that highlights gang affiliation, which makes you more of a target. 4) Never walk on the sidewalk: Students walk down the center of Wood St because they feel safer, in the street you can keep a broad view and will have more time to get away if you see something sketchy. 5) If they shoot, don’t run—you’ll get shot in the back, fall to the ground instead. 6) Any body can be shot for any reason: girls, money owed, he said/she said, retaliation, walking into other gang territory, and you can also be shot over absolutely nothing. 7) Never go outside; stay away from your block for as long as possible, join school organizations and stay as late as you can, and when you are home, don’t leave your house, don’t even go onto the porch. One student who didn’t want to be involved in a gang had to go to such extreme measures that it led him to depression. I felt so horrible hearing that Deante couldn’t go outside or have friends because he refused to be involved in a gang. Deante’s attitude, although admirable, is one that many young people can’t afford to have because they want to have a social life, and they should be able to have one that doesn’t involve their friends being shot in front of them. Unfortunately, however, being in a gang is probably one of the safer routes at Harper High School.
I have a lot of respect for the staff at Harper High School, however, because they make such a fantastic effort at trying to give the students a normal homecoming, even after a shooting. Shootings in general I thought were very surprising, mainly the aftermath. I thought it was very unique that students have anniversaries of dates that other students were shot, such as when Terrence Green was murdered in July of 2009. Not only do they have remembrance days, gangs are actually created in their name where the members celebrate the deceased’s birthday and get together on the day he was killed. In the case of Terrence Green, his friends adopted his last name as their own, tattooed his name on their bodies and created and dedicated songs to Terrence. In retaliation to his death, there are seven murders and ten other shootings that can be traced to TGC (Terrence Green City) gang members and Terrence is not an exception to this occurrence; there are numerous cases in Harper High School where this has happened. I was also amazed how easy it is to get guns in Englewood, as well as how cheap they are, sometimes even being free, and the fact that these guns were used to shoot boys once they were tall enough to be assumed they were in a gang is an example of stereotyping, prejudice, and discrimination. I feel that this school is a perfect example of the study done on competition and cooperation, where groups are established and set up against each other to create enemies and while playing football (competition) there isn’t any mentioned gang violence. Although gang violence sits at roughly 10% of gangs at Harper, the violent acts that do occur can be attributed to deidividuation as well as self-fulfilling prophecy, where members of the group act how they are expected and act how the members of their group act. There is a great sense of conformity in Englewood, which determines the social norms at the high school. The condition at this institution is heartbreaking and I hope that the school discovered a way to maintain the level of attentiveness to their students once the allowance from the state was gone.
The psychology terms I used were: stereotyping, prejudice, discrimination, attitude, deindividuation, self-fulfilling prophecy, conformity, and social norms
At Harper High located in the West Englewood neighborhood in the south side of Chicago students attend another year of high school. It’s the first day and students are informed about the three students who were killed last year. However this was an understatement. There were actually 29 recent and current students who were shot. 8 of those students died. I was in awe that I had never heard of this story before this. I now know that this is because this type of thing happens every year in different high schools around the world. I have never felt the type of fear that these students have felt. Harper is located in a run-down part of Chicago however is a very pristine 4 story building with 16 security guards. School is the safest place for these students to be in this neighborhood. Life here is not only hard for students but also for staff. Year after year these teachers and counselors have to worry about the students at their school as well as themselves. This makes me truly believe that these people care and want to make a change in this school and neighborhood. Mr. Adams, the president of Harper, meets with new students and discusses where they live. It may seem odd but he is actually trying to figure out what gang they are affiliated with.
There are certain rules that one must abide by to understand how to survive in this neighborhood and places like it. Rule number one is look at a map, know your location. Kids in this neighborhood do not choose to be in a gang, rather they are assigned a gang based on what block they live on. Even a local cop admits that these students cannot avoid being in a gang. They used to have what they called “neutrons” or people who were neutral or not assigned to a gang however it is now the defining social structure of the school and neighborhood. Rule number 2: Never walk by yourself. Walking by yourself leaves you more likely to get jumped or killed. Rule number 3: Never walk with someone else. Walking with others risks being associated with other gangs. Rule number 4 is never use the sidewalk. Students here walk home in the middle of the street. This is so that they can have a broad view of their surroundings and a couple of extra seconds to make decisions. Rule number 5 is to never run when they shoot. Students say that they will fall to the ground, if they run then they are likely to get shot in the back. Rule number 6 is you may get shot for reasons little and small. Often times students are shot for small things like girls, stepping into someone elses block, ect. The last rule is never go outside. The safest thing to do is to get involved at school, so that you can avoid being outside. How can anyone who hasn’t lived in this environment understand these rules? They can’t. I have felt safe going to and from school all of my life, I have never had to worry about being affiliated with other gang members. I feel supremely fortunate to have been brought up in such a safe place.
In this school there is a social work office. Here students seek for support, advice and sometimes just someone to talk to. You can imagine that these students have a lot that they need to get out. One student in particular, Devante, is mentioned multiple times throughout the two episodes. Devante accidentally shot and killed his own 14 year old brother with a gun that he didn’t know worked. Crystal Smith, the social work officer who he connects the best with is very passionate towards him. Crystal explains how Devante needed to be at Harper. If he wasn’t he wouldn’t have anybody to talk to and his problems would just keep building on top of each other. However it is very hard for Devante to open up. Crystal says she’s only “cracked the door, but the size of a mousehole.” Devante tells Crystal that he cannot sleep and that he is taking Nyquil every night. He cannot stop thinking about his brother and the guilt that he has. Devante near the end of the episode says that he hates himself; that he wants to give up on life. “If I leave this world, they won’t care” he says referring to his family. He feels that his family does not believe him or care for him. His sister won’t even talk to him. Crystal then talks with Devante’s mother who is now impressed with his grades. However they never talk about what happened at home, they just act like it never happened. Devante’s mother actually still questions whether or not it was an accident. I do not blame his mother for questioning it, I think that this is a natural thing. I do not think that she actually thinks that Devante did it on purpose, but rather she just still has her doubts. She wasn’t there, how can she ever fully know what happened?
Staff at Harper are constantly questioning whether or not that they can make a difference. Much of the staff, and especially Crystal, keep a highly positive attitude during school hours. Students say that Crystal is the “mom patrol”. She praises you for everything good that you do. Students love talking to Crystal. I think that it is extremely important that these students have someone to talk to, and someone that they enjoy talking to. I do not think it is a bad thing that they think of Crystal like a mother as this means that they are comfortable with her.
Homecoming week is a struggle for the staff as they try to make sure that these students still have normal high school activities like a dance and a football game. The Harper football team is undefeated this year and have a big game coming up. The thing that is special about the football team is that the students put rivalry aside. Half of the football team is affiliated with one gang while the others may be of opposing gangs. When the football players were asked about how many players have been shot at they replied that the whole team has been shot at. As the game nears one of the major stars of the football team and candidate for homecoming king Damoni finds out that one of his friends James has been shot. No longer was the school thinking about the game. School staff got together and came up with a plan because they knew that there would be retaliation. They sent those home who they felt may be attacked early. They hired extra police security. After questioning whether or not to continue with the dance they decide to. They really wanted the students to have a normal highschool event. Fortunately nothing happened, there was no retaliation. It would be very unfortunate, in my opinion, for these students not to have nice highschool memories like a homecoming dance or game.
A question that rose in my mind but was also addressed in the episode was “how do these kids get guns?” When interviewed about the questions students answered “from one of the guys.” They explained the difference between dirty guns, guns that have been used for crime or murder, and clean guns, those that haven’t been used to commit murder or crime. Many students get guns around the age of 12. They explain how they never keep the gun in the house, they always keep it somewhere close, but not too close. Somewhere like an abandoned house. So they can have access to it when they “need” it. I feel that almost every kid in that school probably owns a gun. I would too in their situation. Im not saying that it is right for these students to own guns. I am just saying that I probably wouldn’t feel very safe without one in this neighborhood. I wish there was a way to completely remove guns from this area and I think that the students wish that as well.
According to what I know about scientific aspects of social psychology, I notice that there are many psychological principles that are operating at this school and community. One of the largest principles that I see is snap judgements. Something as small as a facial expression could lead to a death in this environment. Intentional or not these students must watch that they do not make any behaviors that may result in conflict. Another principle that I’m sure exists between different gangs is stereotypes. Gangs will automatically assume information about those within their own gang and especially about those of opposing gangs. Lastly groups can affect individual behavior immensely. Especially when one is in a gang, if they do not act a certain way or show appreciation for someone in another gang they might easily be threatened or killed. Deindividuation is occurs within gangs. Gangs are a type of group and groups affect individual behavior.
Psychological Terms: Snap judgements, facial expression, stereotypes, groups, deindividuation.
These episodes were hard to listen to. I know what its like to lose a classmate, I can’t imagine actually losing three. Let alone five or eight. I also can’t imagine being an administrator or teacher at this school, having to recover from the last year and keep kids alive. How this school didn’t get onto the news simply amazes me. It deeply saddens me to think that 29 kids have been hurt, 8 so much so that they have died from it. These kids can’t be safe, they can’t even have a say in if they want to be in a gang. Its almost like every kid is pushed into the ‘self-fulfilling prophecy’ of being in a gang based on where they live. As someone who comes from a small town with a graduating class of around 50, its weird to think that what these kids are going through and dealing with are social norms to them. They are used to all the gangs, they grew up with them. They are used to shootings and having to have a plan for what to do if it happens. They are used to the random peaks of aggression whereas the most aggression I was exposed to was maybe a kid getting pissed at school and punching a wall, never a shooting. I believe in this school there is a lot of prejudice, as there is in every school. However this school has an extra load of it.
The rules of gangs are contradicting as hell too. One of the rules is that you don’t walk alone but another states that you can’t walk with anyone else. I can’t imagine having to live by these rules that conflict with each other.
Devonte I ended up really feelin bad for this kid. He shot his own brother. He feels blamed by his mother and his own sister refuses to speak to him. His words carried through to me so well that I could physically feel how he was feeling. I could see his facial expressions through his words. My hope is that almost two years later, Devonte is still alive. And if he is still alive I hope that he is doing okay and I hope that things will start looking up for him.
Terms: self-fulfilling prophecy, social norms, aggression, prejudice, discrimination, facial expressions
When I listened to the two parts of this show, I felt many different emotions to the various situations the show covered. I asked myself many questions…Why don’t they just move away?…How can people live that way?...Where are the police? Then I focused on the social issues and realized that most of the kids are products of their environment. The direct factors that cause people to join gangs are 1) family influences 2) cultural differences and 3) protection while the indirect factors are 1) low income 2) family issues and 3) drug and alcohol abuse which lead to a great deal of time on the streets. Many children join a gang because they need protection from other gangs. In this situation, the child might be a good student or just an innocent bystander who becomes the unlucky target to a gang. The gang will beat them up, harass, blackmail, and do almost anything to make their life miserable. This unfortunate kid can only take so much until the thought of strength in numbers come into their mind. The kid would then join a rival gang so that he now has protection and an alliance of friends who “have his back”. Eventually the gang life becomes the air they breathe as they get sucked in farther; it becomes arduous to escape the wrath and they are stuck in the violent rollercoaster, dangling their very existence over their heads. Numerous aspects of poverty all come together to lead to a change in prospect and a difference in the futures of many youth born into a cycle with no choice. There are many negative effects of growing up in a high poverty area. Violence is a reality for youth that grow up in inner-city poverty and is a big stressor. New studies have shown that children growing up in these areas are actually experiencing psychological changes due to violence and other effects of poverty due to the over stimulation of their frontal lobe. The frontal lobe controls instincts, reactions to emotional stimulus, and is the primary instrument in child processing. As the brain is overstimulated by excess violence there is proof that it begins to adapt and change. This change causes children in these areas to become more violent and see violent behavior as something that is common to them. There are many social psychological principles that are at work in this school. The one I noticed was the issue with Devion who shot his own brother by accident. It was a sort of self-fulfilling prophecy because he ended up being and doing what he thought everyone else was thinking about him. He ends up in trouble with the law and on the run. At the end of the show they aired other principals from around the country that had similar problems to Harper. One in particular, Furr High school in Houston, caught my ear. I have personally been to that school in the 80’s for a ROTC competition. I remember being on the bus surrounded by huge barbed wire fences waiting to enter the school to begin the competition, feeling scared because we knew of the reputation the area and school had. We even made jokes about where the Major hid our ammunition to our rifles, just in case. It saddens me that people, especially kids, have to live in that environment on a daily bases. The psychological damage that must occur has to be overwhelming. And then it becomes a vicious cycle because the next generations only know that way of life. In children, this biological adaptation to violence is the balance that enables a child to survive and is a big cause for concern. A mindset prone to violence extends poverty and delays rational mature thought processes. Terms: Frontal lobe, Self-fulfilling prophecy, Stressor, Biological adaptation.
You know, I won't lie. I'm a little ambivalent about these stories of gang shootings and children getting gunned down. It isn't that I don't feel for their plight, it's just that I feel I've been a little desensitized by the near constant attention given to news stories displaying similar tragedies. If it's not some more recent shooting, like Sandy Hook, it's the remembering of the Virginia Tech massacre, or the anniversary of the Columbine shootings. As tragic as it certainly is, I do not find it to be particularly shocking anymore, due to the sensationalist media using this as a wonderful segue to discuss things like gun control and what not. All that said though, it is a shame that this community and many others (as indicated by the end of part 2) all suffer from rampant gang violence and student injury to a potentially greater degree than those that achieve national attention. Perhaps there is a level of discrimination against these schools, as they don't receive as much attention as more affluent schools when they are faced with adversity. Something to think about.
One of the most prominent examples of concepts applicable to what we've read in the book is the concept of deindividuation. This is the concept of an individual being stripped of restraints, self-awareness, and moral standards in the face of many like-minded individuals. In other words, the more people there are in one group, the more likely they are to enter a state of 'group-think', that allows them to make normally unthinkable decisions on behalf of the group. Case in point, the emergence of several large gangs that are willing to blast other people away for living on the same block as their rivals. This also plays into conformity, the shifting of one's own opinion to match that of another group. An interesting fit for all those kids that were in the TKC video bashing the 'Dubs”. Kids of all ages, getting caught in the middle and taught to love it, save for when they aren't able to have weapon. That's all I really have to say on the matter. As I said, I remain largely ambivalent about. But then you could just call it bystander apathy.
The Keywords are: desensitization, discrimination, deindividuation, awareness, group-think, conformity, and bystander apathy.
These episodes made me feel really sad and it also made me feel very fortunate. These episodes of This American Life is also very disturbing to me. I find these episodes so sad because I can not imagine living everyday in an environment like this. That is also why it is disturbing because I can not imagine being somewhere where there are strict rules you need to follow to keep yourself alive and protected. There are seven rules that the kids in Chicago live by day to day. The first step is to know geography and know how to read a map. This is important because you need to be able to know where each gang is and where the gang’s territory is. The second step is to never walk alone because if you are walking alone you are at risk for being jumped or something happening to you. Going along with that, step three is never walk with someone else. Step two and step three are: never walk alone and never walk with someone else, to be protected in the communities around Harper High School you need walk a distance between each other. Step four is to never use the sidewalk. This step was very confusing for me but after kids explained why this is a step it made sense. The teenagers said that not using the sidewalk is a step because it is safer that way. I didn’t quite get how walking in the street would be safer, but then they explain there isn’t any trees and the street is less dangerous. Going along with step four, on the street you have a broad view and more time/places to run. One teenager said that there is “too much stuff going on”, this is part of the reason Harper High School students are always paranoid and they use the street instead of sidewalk. Step five is if they shoot, don’t run. One student of Harper High School said that whenever there are shots he just drops to the ground. The student says he has had to drop to the ground quite often when shots have been fired. Step six really isn’t a step but it talks about what the shootings that are taking place around Harper High School in Chicago are about. I found out the shooting can be over girls, walking off the block, retaliation for other shootings or simply nothing. Many of the shootings that happen are simply over nothing at all. This shocked me because I do not understand why there would be shootings in the first place but especially when the shootings are over nothing. Step seven is to never go home. Many students discussed that you try to stay away from your block as long as possible. You can't even go home and be on your porch and be protected. In these places that these children are living there is really no place that they are safe. These episodes made me feel very fortunate to grow up where I did and for growing up in the community I did. I cannot imagine what these students go through and I feel very sorry that things are the way they are for them.
Taking what I know about social psychology from my textbook I believe there are a handful of social psychology principles operating in Harper High School and in the community. I think attributions can be a big part of what is going on in this community. Both personal attributions and situational attributions are occurring in the community. Personal attributions are people’s explanations for why events or actions occur that refer to people’s internal characteristics, such as abilities, traits, moods or efforts. Mood is the big part of personal attributions that I think come as explanations for things that occur here. Situational attributions are people’s explanations for why events or actions occur that refer to external events, such as the weather, luck, accidents, or other people’s actions. I strongly believe that situational attributions have a big part of the things occurring in the community around Harper High School. I find situational attributions to be a big part because I think they have a lot of influence on the gangs in the area. Attitudes are also a social psychology principle I believe affects Harper HIgh School. Attitudes have a strong impact on all schools but I believe it has a strong impact on especially Harper High School. I think attitude has a big impact because the students attitudes towards each other have a big impact on their daily life and everything going on in the atmosphere. Social norms also has a big impact on the students because the kids want to fit in and many times in this area this means gang affiliation. Not only do the students want to fit in but it seems as if many times they have gang affiliation to also be protected and to be part of their blocks gang just because it is such a social norm there.
Psychology terms used: social norms, personal attributions, situational attributions, attributions, attitudes,
The broadcast speaks for itself where violence is concerned, but the extent of the violence is what baffles me. The entire town is scarred due to gang violence, where every student is in a gang depending on what street they live on. The gangs shoot at each other over little things, or even worse nothing. The school is considered a safe haven for many students from the harsh environment they live in. The faculty helps the students and even drives them to school in some cases. They feel it is their duty to protect the students at all costs. This school is a perfect example of social psychology where several aspects are present. One of the main aspects is situational attributions. These attributions are external factors or actions of other people. The outside world of Harper High School is dangerous and when someone is shot the faculty need to respond to keep the students safe and prevent more violence inside the school. Another big aspect is competition. This is when people or groups have enough animosity towards each other they become hostile. The example is all of the different gangs that exist in the neighborhood. They are trying to keep other gangs out of their area that they do not like each other. The staff of Harper High School like to use a technique called persuasion where they try to influence the students lives by making sending them a positive message. The message could be anything like a smile in the hallway or an even closer approach like pulling them aside and telling them that they love them and want them to be safe. A very strong factor that is influencing the students’ actions is the idea of social norms. This is when behavior is influenced because of an individual’s belief of excepted standards in society. All the students at Harper are in a gang based on what block they live on, so each gang has their own rules and regulations. However, the school also has rules that the students must follow like a dress code. Harper High School is just one school in the country. Many other schools experience gun violence in different ways, but Harper is near the top. However, every school comes into contact with social psychology. Whether it is inside the school or outside social psychology is a major factor that influences every high school around the country.
Psychology terms used: Social Psychology, situational attributions, competition, persuasion, social norms.
I grew up on a farm outside of a tiny town called Elma. The population of the town is only 650. I attended a high school that was only 15 miles away, again in another small town. My class size was only 22. Literally everyone knew each other. Because of this there was never any shootings that took place around here. There are no are gangs, nothing! This episode was very shocking to me and very sad. I couldn’t believe that 29 kids were shot at! That is more than my graduation class. 8 of those 22 died. That's like if all the girls in my class suddenly died. It sounded as if the school had some issue with shootings. It also sounded though that the Harper High School staff were really trying hard to fix the school. However, I think the community is also at fault. I couldn’t believe that the school was losing 1.6 million dollars of turn around money. This is the money that the school could be using to fix the problems with gangs and shootings.
The episodes can be related back to the idea of social norms. To me, it didn't necessarily sound as if the kids had the true motivation for the shootings and killings. However, it talked how the kids started fights over random things. The kids are in these social norms and causes them not to think properly. People use stereotypes against other people which makes them go into different social norms. It goes back to the study with the kids pretending to be guards at a fake prison. Once we get into a setting that we are not used to, we do not act like ourselves. We lose the sense of who we are.
Gangs were a pretty big topic in this episode. This can be tied back to psychology because of cognitive dissonance. This is when you have an uncomfortable mental state due to a contradiction between two attitudes or between an attitude and a behavior. For an example, some students will things that gangs are the worst, however, they end up joining one. They are in mental stage in their live in which it persuades them to join.
Psychology terms: social norms, stereotypes, cognitive dissonance
This broadcast is very sad and unfortunate, it is always very sad when so many people lose their lives because of the actions and out of control feelings of others, especially when those people are so young. IT is sad that in our country today shooting like this are all too real and only some a publicized the way that they should be. I don't recall ever hearing about the shooting at Harper High School prior to listening to the two broadcasts. Its so hard to wrap ones mind around the fact that 29 kids were shot and 8 of them died that terrible day, not only for us a observers but even more so for the kids and staff of Harper High School. Because of this I feel as though it would be incredibly hard to build a foundation after something so tragic happens. Its sad to me that the efforts put forth by the school to rebuild and move on and even activate some prevention get squashed almost as soon as they start. It makes me feel very fortunate that I live in an area with a supportive community where the best interest of the community is put forth. That is not this case in this scenario and unfortunately it seems as though the community in this story tends to do the opposite.
There were many terms that were relevant and relatable to the chapter in both parts of these broadcasts. One of the terms that stood out to me the most was the stereotypes. The reason that this one stood out the most to me is because I think that this story is a good example of how and why stereotypes can be wrong and misleading. When we tend to think of school shootings, unfortunately our minds automatically lead to unpleasant or dark surroundings, typically and unpleasant neighborhood, some bum kid who is probably not white and probably on drugs. But the reality is that gun shootings happen all over and to all different types of people and no one is exempt from the chance of it happening to them. As we learned in the text, our mind typically group things or people that happen into theory on group and list them as an "exception." I think that one of the reasons school shootings see to be getting more and more frequent is because people tend to believe the stereotype and think that it cant happen to them. I think if we were to educate schools and people in the schools more we may be able to break the cycle of this stereotypes.
Another term that I thought was really obvious in this broadcast was social norms. Social Norms are defined as things that we expect in everyday life on a regular basis. At the very beginning of the broadcast there was a pep rally where the speaker was interacting with the audience (the students) in a way that would be considered completely normal according to our own social norms. We expect that a school setting would be a safe, happy and productive setting. It isn't until the entire auditorium takes a moment of silence that our idea of social norms is violated.
This was by far my favorite The American Life episodes so far. It was twice as long as most and I didn’t find myself once spacing off. Listening to this makes me feel so many things at once. First, it is really sad that no one seems to have any idea that things like this are happening as we speak. It makes me feel so bad for all the students, staff, and families in this area. Especially the guys who are only involved in gang violence because they live in a bad spot. That seems so dumb and unfair that that’s literally how they decide who is in what gang. Also, this includes these innocent guys in the gang affiliated stereotype. Not a very good reputation to have. This also brings to mind the self-fulfilling prophecy term. Thinking of the ones who are in the gang just because they live in that area, depending on how long they are going to live there, it would not be surprising if eventually those guys joined in on the violence of gangs. I mean if everyone is already assuming and expecting them to be like that, why try and resist anymore? I bet something like that would happen more often than not.
I was so surprised at how young some of the guys talked about were. Like when they were trying to find where they all get their guns, they were asking freshman. And they all seemed pretty confident that they could find one. And the 16 year old, Terrance, that was killed and people started a gang in his name. Those kids that were singing about him sounded way too young to have anything to do with gangs. It’s so sad those young kids are already involved in gangs just because of where he’s growing up at, they are all already probably so deindividualized, because they belong to a kind of group that you HAVE to have your teams back or else you will get turned on and likely killed. Who knows, one of those kids could have discovered the cure to cancer but he, or any of his friends, don’t even have a chance at a safer, normal kid life.
The section about how our attitudes are formed also relates. Specifically, socialization I am sure forms a majority of their attitudes about school, gang violence, family life, everything. Everyone that was talked to seemed to have no self-worth. They all seemed to think they were no better than the gang life, so minus well join them. Or conform to them. Both of the social workers, Crystal and the other one, they seemed like they were really good at their job, and really good for that school and the population there. I liked Crystal a lot. She was so positive and seemed like she was always trying to convince, or persuade, students everything that they were better than the generalizations and stereotypes given to them. She just always tried to lift up the student’s moods. Also, her episodes with Devonte were my favorite. You could tell they have a close relationship just from listening. I think that this is probably due to the birds of a feather idea, and the personal characteristics. First, you could just tell their personalities meshed well. She understood him and knew how to get through to him. It seemed like she could get him to comply with nearly anything she suggested. Also, she seemed like a very sincere and trustworthy woman, both are high admirable personal characteristics. Probably even more admirable characteristics to a boy in a situation like him, feeling absolutely awful about a mistake, and then having his mom and sister not really believe him. Having a trustworthy friend that he could rely on and talk to was crucial for him.
Terms: stereotypes, self-fulfilling prophecy term, deindividualized, attitude, socialization, self-worth, conform, persuasion, birds of a feather, and personal characteristics, compliance, sincere, trustworthy, admirable characteristics.
Right away this radio blog made me sad, to know that so many people passed at such a young age. The Faculty of Harper High are true teachers. When I say that I mean they really care they go above and beyond understand and better these students lives. I couldn’t imagine attending a school such as Harper High where you are automatically gang affiliate because of what block you live on because this is the social norm. I personally think going to school or working in the rougher side of an area such as chicago is all about dedication to want to do better. This school proves that tomorrow is not promised to everyone. Personally I’ve grown up in an area and hung out with people who are in gangs. I have been near riots or shootings. When “shit” goes down you get out the way and make sure your survival instincts come into play. People panic when you just need to “think smarter not harder”. I agree with this video to stay away from violence and better yourself you just need to stay active as much as possible. Throughout high school I participated in so many different sports and clubs. Staying active keeps kids out of trouble and gives them a better chance on being better than those in their area doing wrong. I personally think that kids in these areas just need someone to care about them. Where I grew up was not even close to how bad Chicago is but its life, you deal with the hand that you were dealt. These kids are being discriminated against simply because of where they live and forced to comply with what the area brings.
Throughout the interviews with the Harper High School students, I noticed that some of them had a strong aggression due to the violence happening in Chicago. These students have so much anger and such a bad attitude it’s hard to believe in something good. These “gang” rules confuse me. There are so many rules that don’t make sense, some of them contradict themselves. It sucks that so many innocent people are could be caught in the line of fire because they’re unaware of these “rules”. If no authorities are around I wonder how many people would fall under the bystander apathy or who would do the right thing and help. When hearing about the football players being shot at and then just going about their day is not surprising to me. You have to realize everyone has a struggle, just because you can’t see their struggle doesn't mean it’s not going on. It’s a tough situation to be in to be someone where and trying to better yourself, and then you hear your friends are someone where else being killed. Homecoming is suppose to be a week of celebration.
How all of this starts is crazy. You go all of your life not having a care in the world, hanging out with whoever, until you get to high school. Then everything changes you are being judged because of how tall you are and who you are around. You are thrown out there to fight a war that had nothing to do with you. Gangs are so much more than the general term. Hearing this conversation about TG and gangs with TG’s father, puts a few things into perspective the parents have no idea how serious everything is. The means everything is much more dangerous that we think.
I commend these social workers and teachers who go above and beyond to help these students. The love and support the give these student to persuasion to do better. Violence is serious and I hope this community improves. I am truly worried about the younger generations, I think they have no self respect or morals. I hope we can get a grasp on these issues and better our communities.
Terms used: strong aggression, attitude, persuasion, dedication
In these two episodes of The American Life, we are introduced to Harper High School which is located in one of the many suburbs of Chicago. I personally love the city of Chicago and have visited many times as I have family who lives in the suburbs. Chicago was ultimately the place where I wanted to go to college, but it was dismissed as an option by my parents when they began to realize how dangerous the city can be. They did not like the idea of me going from a town of 2500 to a city of 2,695,598 and a “dangerous” city at that.
The tone for the episodes are immediately set for each episode. Three students were killed in school nearly the size of my old high school which felt terribly small. 26 other students had also been shot. I think back to my school and even the death of one teenager was felt throughout the entire community and was talked about for a long time. However, for these students, death and violence is all they know. All they know is fear and to defend themselves which creates a terrible mental state for these students. I can only imagine the amount of anxiety in which these students and even staff are experiencing just by waking up and going to school/work in fear that maybe today will be the day that they are going to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.
A gang is something so foreign from where I come from. There was no talk of gangs other than maybe a gang that was supposedly forming in a bigger city about 20 minutes away from my hometown. They were talked about like it was a huge surprise that anything like that would actually exist even semi near where we all resided, but for these kids, they are faced with the prospect of joining a gang nearly all their lives. To avoid being involved in some gang related activity is to probably never have your own group of friends. There is hardly a way around being in a gang. Gangs are particularly dangerous because there tends to always be one leader. This leader makes damn sure his or her followers are totally loyal to him/her. The obedience of some people is almost mind boggling. This extreme obedience also creates deindividuation, or the loss of self-awareness in a group setting.
I’m not exactly sure how anyone would go about solving this problem. On one hand, I feel terrible because as the book says, “our experiences shape our attitudes/personalities”. Did these kids ever really have a chance? Would they be these ‘viscous criminals’ had they been born in a small town like I was? If I was born into the same areas as these kids, would I succumb to the gang life or would I even be able to survive? There are just so many questions about how and why gang life has taken over the way it is.
Psychology terms: anxiety, mental state, obedience, deindividuation.
These episodes made me feel very sad. I am from a small town here in Iowa where there are no gangs or affiliations with gangs from anyone that went to my school. It’s just crazy to me how these kids have to deal with gangs in their everyday life. I was shocked when the man mentioned how there is no way to get out of it and not be involved at all. The one kid, when asked about his summer, said it was safe. How sad is it that this is the way his summer was described? I feel guilty for saying I had a boring summer because I have it so much better than these kids do. I don’t have to worry about walking out to my car alone and not feeling safe, it’s just the environment that I live in. The psychological principles that are operating at this school are definitely group behaviors. Groups affect how other people act and these gangs are made up of groups of people. I think deindividuation may take part here. Deindividuation is defined as “when people are not self-aware and therefore are not paying attention to their personal standards”. I think that these kids are so involved in these gangs that they don’t pay attention to how they personally feel about it. They are just trying to save themselves and going with the flow of what their gang is doing that they are not self-aware that this isn’t safe or a good way to live. I also think compliance may be involved because these kids feel obliged to do what they gang members are telling them to do. To these kids it has become a social norm to live in the environment they are living in. Obedience is also a big factor here. These gangs are basically being obeyed by all of the other people in the community because no one wants to get involved or get in trouble with the gangs. The book says “we obey people who have authority”, showing that these gang leaders are said to have authority to everyone else involved. This is why they are being followed even though it doesn’t seem right.
Psychological terms: deindividuation, compliance, social norms, obedience
I can not believe any of this. It’s crazy to me because they said that 12 people were wounded by gunshot wounds and three kids were shot and killed from this school. It’s just absurd how many kids are dying from gang violence all across the country. I don’t blame any of the parents who wish to transfer their kids out of the school. If I were a parent or even a kid who went to this school I would be trying to transfer too. I would not feel safe at all going there. It bothers me that most kids don’t even have a choice, they just have to join the gang without any kind of choice on their part. I think the most social psychological principle that is operating is more than likely deindividuation. Deindividuation is really complicated. The study of the students who were the prisoners and guards made me think of how these gangs work. Kids who are forced into a gang will eventually just go into the regular gang norm. I really enjoyed listening to this episode. My favorite part was about Devonte. He’s one of those kids that I think slipped through the right crack. He didn’t fall into the gangs and even is a role model and a leader for most kids. That is something Devonte should be proud of. I really think we as a nation should start helping these kids. It’s important and we need to help all of the kids who really can’t help themselves.
Harper High School:
It was very heartbreaking to hear about the shooting of 29 kids and knowing that 8 of them died without getting acknowledge their death on the news. I always had nightmares as a child about having to face the death of my friends and teachers of a school shooting happening in my school. Feeling the terror in my bones with the knowledge of someone about to kill me without an actually cause or reason. I cant happen the faces of the parents when all they could do was listen and watch what was going on inside the school without being able to do anything. This episode reflected a lot from the recent chapter I read that reminded me of, stereotypes and the actions that we do that people see you as. Gangs were brought up a lot and knowing that everywhere you go, there are gangs on every corner. Having friends are something that you need as a guard, but also for protection outside.
I felt that the community was the reason there was a shooting, because of all the gangs that overall killed innocent people. Change was needed, but was hard to get because of the money that was not given to them and forced them to become less of a school. Stress responses were very high at this point that made them turn to different solutions. The daily hassle of going to school that may not be there tomorrow. Doing this episode made me understand people’s battles that they face and coming to an understanding that children need education and to stop using weapons for communication. Psychology everywhere and pulled my attention on the necessary understand and actions of society.
Terms: stereotypes, Stress responses, and Psychology.
This radio show was very saddening to know that this goes on within our country in one of the biggest cities in America. There is a lot to say about this radio show but the first thing that I personally noticed with the show was that the media doesn’t care about this high school. im from a little school in Wisconsin where if a student from any local school has died in a school related or non-school related it is on the news. In 2008 my high schools biggest rival which was 10 miles from my school had a shooting within the building. One person was shot and killed. This was on national news and broke the hearts of everyone including my school. We felt for the loss of the principal of Weston high school, yet we also couldn’t believe that some of our best friends were first hand witnesses of this shooting. The entire nation seemed to have Apathy For this small community. When listening to this radio show people seem to not care about the shootings. The moto appears to be kill or be killed as if they were fighting in a war, our these neighborhoods a true war? The attitude In these neighborhoods are truly kill or be killed. With this type of attitude I am not surprised that there are so many school shootings because people feel the need to carry guns the moment they walk out of the house. This radio show interviews a police officer and states that when attending Harper high school, the streets these kids were living in had no choice but to be a part of a gang. Each street could be a different gang, meaning as these young men and women would walk to school they would cross many different gang territories and many killings and “jumping’s” happen within the crossing of territories. These gangs felt that they could have been being prosocial, trying to better the world by removing people, the shootings became daily, almost like the first couple days hunting. The workers of this school are truly saints, the amount of work they are willing to do to better these kids and to protect them is something that is national news. Going back to my local school shooting at Weston high school, the major news channels such as CNN and Fox arrived within the hour of the shooting telling the story of the hero’s at Weston high, what they did was heroically but what is done daily here at Harper high school is outstanding. They do outstanding things every day and are willing to personally pick up students within these different gang territories. The news should report these type of people, we are told we need teachers to play a bigger role in these schools but Harper high seems to have exactly what the news said we need. I was not shocked how these students earned guns, being from a large hunting community in Wisconsin I personally got a rifle for $50 which is fairly cheap for the type of rifle I have. Granted the reason I would have a gun then the people in this story are very different because they are trying to kill people. This radio show is sad that these kids much younger than I grow up seeing death and instead of thinking of college they think of ways to survive the next day.
Attitude- prosocial- apathy
After listening to today’s episodes, I have to say I’m not really surprised. I mean Chicago is a very big city with a lot of dangers. Growing up in Chicago, I’ve never really saw much school violence besides the occasionally brawls being because I grow on the west side on Chicago. Don’t get me wrong it’s bad there too, just not as bad. At the end of episode two, I really just want to cry because everyone makes Chicago seem like this terrible place where youth are always dying but they fail to realize that that’s happening everywhere in almost all the schools. The school in Florida mentioned at the end surprised me the most. The principal said that in the last four years there’s been a least 44 deaths affiliated with that school. The worst thing is that no one else is doing it to us we’re doing it to ourselves. We fight with our fists and instead of our mind over mean less foolishness. We have still not realized that by retaliating we’re only hurting ourselves because it just goes back and forth until what everyone’s dead? What would that solve? Absolutely nothing! More innocent lives are taken more than anything. As it was stated in the beginning of the first episode, you don’t really have a choice in the matter of if you want to be in a gang or not. You’re basically assigned one by where you live once you’re of age, so what can you really do? It’s as if the youth have accepted this unspoken mission, kill or be killed. It’s really sad to say, but that’s how it is now.
While listening to these episodes, I could point out a lot of social psychological principles that are operating at this and in this community. Deindividuation is a state of reduced individuality, reduced self-awareness, and reduced attention to personal standards. The when young are forced to be in these gangs they have to give up their individuality and standard to hardcore gang member so he can fit in better. Social norms are the most social principle that you see almost anywhere. This is the expected standards and conduct, influence behavior. This is a community where you see a lot of social norms going on. In the beginning of episode one, they talked about how Harper High School was a normal high school and that freshmen were nervous and the seniors were confident the first few days of school. Their first day consisted of a pep rally, rules and introductions. The only thing that was not a social norm was a moment of silence to remember the ones they lost the past year from gang related shootings. One of the main aspects presented in these episodes were how people let others influence them. These students that were apart of gangs were forced to retaliate in order to protect their gang. This is known as compliance. It is the tendency to agree to do things requested by others. These gang members altered their own behaviors and opinions to match those of others or to match other people’s expectations, also known as conformity. Conformity takes place at this time, changing our little sweet boys into rude, violent men to meet the standards of their new gang. I found it very interesting to see how many students on the football team were affiliated with different gangs, but still manage to be able to work together as a team to play the game. There was also many stereotypes. A student described that they often had guns pointed at them as a threat because some gangs assumed they were part of another gang all because of where they lived and that they looked of age, when really they didn’t belong to a gang at all. This same student talk about how even though some teachers, parents, and police knew what was going on they never tried to stop it. These students are forced to “fight fire with fire” and are driven by fear. Devonte, a student who accidently shot his brother, said he could tell his sister, mom and classmates didn’t care about him anymore because of their facial expressions and body language. The term ‘thin slices of behavior’ describes how having a few seconds to read body language can provide sufficient cues for us to form general impression about people. The principles not operating at this school is obeying authority figures. The students in the gangs obviously do not care about obeying the police who are the main authority figures in a community. They are not afraid of their consequences because they instead obey their promises to their gang. They can’t really show the fear they feel.
Key Terms: Deindividuation, Social norms, Stereotypes, Thin slices of behavior, Conformity, Compliance
I guess I don’t really know how to feel about this episode, mostly because I don’t understand the senseless violence that defines the entire culture around Harper High. Why are people shooting each other, why do they need to be in gangs, why don’t they stop? I just don’t understand it at all. It’s sad to hear that students feel the need to be in gangs to be protected on their walk to and from school. It’s even sadder that they don’t have a choice in life except to be in a gang just because they live on a specific block. I always thought the gang structure was like This American Life’s description of a typical gang where there was one leader with thousands of members and a complex structure that was built to sell drugs. Instead, it seems like these gangs are just social groups based on what block people live on. The difference between them and a normal group of people is that these gangs have guns and are willing to shoot people over literally anything. I am nowhere near educated enough in psychology to assess what is happening at Harper High, but the entire situation reminds me of the mob mentality section. All of these kids are in a gang and the gang becomes their entire identity. They lose their sense of individuality from the beginning because they are always part of a gang. They proceed to behave in ways that would normally be unacceptable for an individual. Another factor could be peer pressure/normative influence I guess. If all of everyone is in a gang, then how do you avoid it? It was sad to listen to the part about the kid who avoided gang life entirely. I mean, this kid was doing the right thing and avoiding gangs, but he had literally no friends. That is not an easy way to go through high school. All he could do was sit in his house alone and go to school. I know I would not want that life, and I imagine that is how most of the high school gang members feel. The gangs are their entire identity. This American Life talked about how the gangs decided who they could talk to at school, sit with at lunch, or even acknowledge in the hallways… that is absolutely ridiculous. These gangs force every student to conform to their strict rules or else they are in danger of being shunned, assaulted, or even killed. Even with the gang’s protection, all of these threats are very real possibilities. At least with the gang, the kids feel some sort of acceptance and sense of belonging.
Anyways, all this was to say that I do not understand the social environment that surrounds Harper High and similar neighborhoods. I feel sorry for every person who grows up there, but I don’t know how to fix it and that frustrates me. No one should live in constant fear like that.
Terms: peer pressure, normative influence, social, hierarchy, psychology, mob mentality, behave
These were such hard episodes to listen to. 29 students were shot and 8 of them died. That is an outrageous number as I am from a small town in Iowa. When asked for a moment of silence, most of the people remained quite but some people were still talking. It is crazy to me that students have to fear going to school everyday while most of us are privileged to go to school everyday. This episode was very informative about gangs and how if you are not part of the gang they think you are against them. The gangs have become a normal thing at this school. The school even admits that the children don’t really have a choice if they are in a gang or not. Everyone who attends this school is scared. The teachers, administration, and even the security guards do not have authority or control anymore.
One thing that connected this episode to social psychology was stereotyping. Administration just assumes that every student is in a gang while in reality, most are but some students choose not to be. The stereotype also is if you are in a gang you are a horrible person. About every student in Harper is in a gang and each gang has their own set of ‘rules’. Their rules include not walking on the sidewalk, not walking alone, and not walking in groups.
To be honest, I think everything from these episodes belong under the category social psychology. I think this because most boys who grow up join gangs because that Is what they grow up seeing and not because they want to join it.
The psychological terms I used were social psychology, stereotyping.
It was very disturbing hearing how many students were shot and actually killed from Harper High School. Even more disturbing is the fact that I have never heard of anything coming from this area on the news or by other people. Coming from a small Iowa farm town I have no experience with the violence on that kind of level, and I can only wonder how the Harper High students can deal with that on top of the stress of school. I am very shocked by the fact that these students are put into gangs solely based on where they live. I have always been big on the fact that we always have a choice in a situation, but the kids that don’t want to be apart of the gangs simply don’t and that idea is very scary and sad to me. It sounds like some kids just give in to the self-fulfilling prophecy, and embrace the gang they are in and act how they do just because it is expected of them. A sick fact about these gang wars and attacks is that the reason for killing someone does not involve drugs or business, but just over petty arguments like who owes who money or who’s dating which girl. I just can’t wrap my head around why these gangs think it is okay to kill someone just because they you angry. Is it because they feel they just have to, or because of the mere exposure effect they actually start to like what they do? If these students had not previously enjoyed or been apart of gang related issues, but since becoming affiliated and participating they’ve found they like it, deindividuation is the problem. When someone holds a gun and has the power to take another person’s life, that power can go to just about anyone’s head. This is especially true for teenagers who have not cognitively developed all the way yet and deal with mood shifts and aggression. Then when you throw all of what one person is experiencing into a group of similar individuals, any morals or values that would stop them from abusing power is long gone. For the kids who don’t become deindividualized, they must still conform to being affiliated with gangs because that’s how their neighborhood is set up and there really is no choice. The social norm is to understand that you are in a gang no matter what, and you must comply with how the system works or there is just as good of a chance of you being killed than if you embraced being in your gang. This is just a horrible situation that looks like it cannot be stopped or fixed.
Terms: Self-Fulfilling Prophecy, Mere Exposure Effect, Deindividuation, Conform, Social Norm, Comply
The two episodes of This American Life about the Harper High School were so interesting and sad. I had never heard of this high school before this, and there is so much violence and shootings happening that if this had been a richer school in the suburbs, with predominately white students, everyone would have heard about it, it would be big news. That discrimination is just disturbing and makes me so angry. Because this is an inner city school with black kids, there are stereotypes that are in effect, making it so nobody is surprised or care that there is so much violence happening.
I wasn’t fully aware of the way that the gangs were working, but the information from these episodes shed so much light onto the situation, emphasizing the fact that these kids don’t even have a choice wether they are in a gang or not, this is all determined by were they live. We see being in a gang as this choice that they can make, and if they are in them then they are these terrible people who do all this crime, but it’s not true. There are various attributions going on, where those outside of the situation see it as dispositional attribution, while it is more situational attribution, situational factors that they cannot control and so they must learn to act in compliance to their environment, learning all of the “rules” and just trying not to get hurt. This is a social norm for this community, and these kids’ conformity is not exactly something that they had a choice over. The faculty at the school, however, is doing such a great job at helping the students cope with this environment and they are continually reminding them that they are important and are capable of anything.
These episodes were so eye opening; I learned a lot more about the lives of these kids and what their environment is really like. It was so aggravating to realize that this is a big thing, and it’s happening all over, but nobody hears about it or seems to care because it isn’t rich or middle class white kids that are being affected or getting hurt.
words used: dispositional attribution, stereotype, conformity, social norm, discrimination, compliance
This episode made me very upset and angry at the same time. All of these shooting, all of the children dying for no reason and nothing about it on the news. It’s ridiculous that because they live in a mostly black community that it is expected as a social norm or that it’s not a real issue. In my high school one of my friends died and it made local news because kids and teens don’t usually die around us. But in this community it does. The kids don’t get a choice to be in a gang, they are labeled. They can’t walk alone, but are also targeted if they walk together. They are afraid to walk on the sidewalks. This isn’t something that should be ignored. It’s not even the schools fault, because they do everything they can to keep the children safe. It really is the community and local police that should take more of an action towards making these children safe.
The people in the gangs seem to conform to be like each gang. I understood that the football team was apart of many different gangs, depending on how you look at it, it could be diedividation. Whether you look at it as they don’t pay attention to the things they are supposed to do and people they should hate during football, or the same while they are in the gangs. These kids and teenagers really don’t have a choice, so they have to conform to the gangs. A big stereotype is that this wasn’t even put on the news and nobody really knew about it because they are mostly all blacks and live in the ghetto, which makes it expected. The community doesn't stop this, and kind of lets the gangs do what they want. Making shootings a social norm.
Diedividation, stereotype, conform, social norm
I was shocked that even though so many students were shot and killed, it wasn’t as big of a news story as it would be in my area. If this would happen around me, it would be all over the news and would be broadcasted for at least 2 weeks. I come from a small town in northwest Iowa where nothing like this happens. The way they described the school, it sounded pleasant and presentable. You wouldn’t assume so much violence to come from this school the way they described the halls and the buildings. The school is very stereotyped because of the high population of gang members in the school. Because of all the gang members, you would stereotype the school as trashed; crappy hallways, bad paint jobs, graffiti, and dirty bathrooms, with the occasional gang violence in the cafeteria during the lunch hour. I’m obviously guilty of stereotyping this school.
The stress of all the gang violence not only affected they students, but even the parents. Some parents didn’t feel comfortable with their children being around this gang violence in the Chicago school system, even though none of the shootings happened in the high school. I don’t blame those parents, because I wouldn’t want that either. I would move out of the place immediately because I could not deal with the daily hassle of the gangs every day. Due to the social norms, all of the male population in the school is part of a gang, you are not neutral. Depending on the area that you live, that is what gang you are a part of, and you don’t have a choice. Kids walk through enemy territory in packs on their way to school for survival. Even if kids don’t want to be in a gang, they comply for survival. They have motivation not to die, because if they did one wrong move, they would die in a shooting. They comply also by following certain rules for their mere survival. I can’t imagine the stress that is put on the faculty and teachers at Harper High School. I assume there is nervousness and fear every day when they leave for work. Their principle has to have the most stress of them all. When she is faced with the decision of canceling homecoming or not, she was on the phone non-stop all day trying to make it as safe as she can for her students. It had to have been rewarding when they go through a big event without any gang out breaks! They had a regular high school night, something that is rare there, yet ever so common in my small northwest Iowa town and school. That had to have been a rewarding feeling and a considered a high success of the school year.
This is all so crazy to me. I come from a super sheltered area compared to what these kids go through on their daily basis. I’ve visited Chicago twice when my brother was living there, thankfully he was in a nice part of the city, but you had to go through some harsh neighborhoods to get to his neighborhood. Even though my idea of these neighborhoods were bad, they weren’t as bad as these neighborhoods described. I stereotyped these neighborhoods with gangs because of the colored population on the streets and the status of the homes. We would watch the news at night and every night there was something stated about gang activity, which gave me a gut ache and I didn’t want to leave his gated community the next day. These gangs aren’t constricted to their neighborhoods and the school, when we got on the L train, there was a for sure gang member working the train car, I could tell by his body language. I’ve grown up super sheltered compared to theses life styles, which leads me to stereotype them.
Terms: stress, daily hassle, stereotype, social norms, comply, motivation, survival, body language,
I was so surprised how 29 students were shot, and 8 of them were dead. I live in Illinois, and not that far from Chicago and it is just amazing to me how just an hour out of the city how different our two schools were. It is crazy to me that kids were scared to go to schools because of the shootings and fights. My school wasn’t perfect; we had our fair share of fights, but never anything that we needed security guards for. I was also really touched by the story of the brother shooting and killing his younger brother on accident. I couldn’t imagine what he could be going though, but at the same time it changed him and he now comes to school now because it’s where he can get away from his problem but then talk to someone about them too. I was honestly really shocked at how many of the students were open with the administration about being in gangs, but I think it’s good that they did. I have to agree with the teachers who didn’t stay after school to make sure things were okay, but if you have these kids talking to you and telling you to stay out of the neighborhood I probably would too. Especially something as big as James’ death was. If I had a family and kids of my own I would want to make sure they were protected too, because like Anita said you can’t stop it. I thought it was nice that the school let the kids who were apart of the gang that supposedly shot James. Even though one of the kids and his dad got shot at, I think it was the best thing that they were sent home earlier. It kept them and other students leaving school safer.
In the second show I could not believe that Thomas had actually witnessed or at least been at a birthday party where a ten year old got shot and actually saw pieces of her brain laying on the ground, or even standing on the same porch as the girl who was shot and killed. I don’t blame him for wanting to hurt someone who did these things. I couldn’t imagine seeing your brother and friend being taken away in an ambulance, and you being just fine because you ran from the shots. I wish I knew the shooters reason why he just ran up because the way Thomas made it seem is as if he came out of no where; or why Thomas, Shakaki, and Thomas’ brother just didn’t go inside quickly. I was shocked when they said that no one was ever charged with the deaths of these kids. It’s just amazing to me how even the girls get into gangs drama too, or even start it. Like Terrance’s ex girlfriend saying “my brother is gonna get you,” just because of a break up. I was surprised that more parents don’t take precautions to keep their kids from not being in a gang.
In this school there are a lot of aspects of social psychology going on. The first one that stood out to me would be stereotyping, because if you lived on a certain street you were automatically placed into a certain gang, when you may not be. Kids too might look at gangs as being the “cool” thing to do. They may have friends or family members who are apart of a gang and they may even be pressured to join one. I also think that the community itself is stereotyping these types of schools. The first episode we listened too opened by saying that none of these deaths were talked about on the news or anything because “it’s typical Chicago,” it happens all the time. I think with the fact the public is turning the other way on this is just making the problem worse. If no one is getting charged with these murders, that shooter is still out there and will do it again. I like how involved the school is, but I think this problem is bigger than the school and more action needs to be taken. Social facilitation is a big factor in what is going on. These kids at school are nice and are talking about the problems going on, but when they are in their group they want to act tough. Because these kids have grown up in these neighborhoods they don’t really know anything else. They conform to what all the others are doing around them because they think that’s the only thing they are good for. Another thing from the chapter that relates to this community is self-fulfilling prophecy. These kids are acting in ways to be approved by other gang members, and in school to be known as someone not to mess with. Like the boy who got a gun because he had a special rank in the gang at age 14. What did he have to do to get that ranking? New members of the gangs may be more likely to experience compliance to be accepted. They will do whatever it takes just to be liked by their fellow gang members. I think the over all major principal that is involved here is social norms. Even when I was talking about how these shootings or deaths aren’t talked about on news stations is because they look at it as a normal action. These kids don’t know anything else other than being in a gang, because that’s all the community worries about there. Kids have certain rules to follow, and even the rules don’t make sense because you aren’t safe anywhere unless you stay inside most of the time like the valedictorian did.
These episodes made me thankful for the high school I came from and actually understand why our administration was so strict. We didn’t have a major gang problem, but we did have gangs in my town and they too wanted to make sure that if kids were involved, they kept it away. Even though I didn’t live that far from Chicago I didn’t hear about most of these shootings and deaths that have happened which is surprising to me. I couldn’t imagine how tough it is to grow up in a community like Englewood and know these people who have gotten shot and or killed or even be someone who was shot at.
Terms: Stereotyping, Social Facilitation, Conformity, Self-Fulfilling Prophecy, Compliance, Social Norms
These episodes started off right away with the heart breaking numbers of the victims of the senseless violence in the school district and moved of to speak more in-depth about the social norms though ought the josh school. At first glance it seems like Harper High School seems like another in America, but very quickly you begin to realize how then the balance between safety and chaos/violence is, how hard the staff have to work to maintain peace and help their students keep up morale. Living in an environment where you have to abide by rules that keep you locked up in your house and when you have to be out you have to be insanely careful about every single action, things as simple of how and you walk with, must be extremely taxing on many of the teens emotional state. Listening to these episodes made me sad and provoked thoughts that often linked to what we've learned about social psychology.
Many principles of social psychology are at play in this school and community. For example, two that must be exceptionally prevalent are snap judgments and stereotyping. Students have perceived stereotypes of others based on where they live and often must make snap judgments about the intentions and actions of others affiliated with other gangs. Things as simple as where they live and how they present themselves can lead to setting off dangerous signals leading to violence.
Psychology terms: Social norms, stereotyping, snap judgments
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11/06/2014
In this blog we listened to the “this American Life” episode number 487 and 488 called Harper High School. It was a very emotional podcast in my opinion that was both very depressing and shocking. This podcast stated that twenty nine kids were shot and only eight of them survived and the occasion didn’t even make it on the news. My question is why wouldn’t they even try to bring attention to this horrible tragic event that killed eight students from harper high school. Even though it was gang related they should have at least brought a little attention to what happened because those deceased children have a right to be recognized in the media, from the result of a gang related incident. Its not the schools fault however because they are in a very bad and run down environment. After hearing about the other shootings that happened this episode had me feeling sorry for the kids at this school as well. It takes a sick person to go and shot kids in a school building or kids alone. The kids there are not bad children but are never giving the chance to prove themselves because of where they live. This should not be happening because a person should not be judged on where they live. These people who live here in my opinion are stronger and wiser then most people in well rounded communities. Maybe the problem with these kids are that they are trying to keep up with the other people in the gang. When they act out in these violence acts its mainly because the don’t want to get made fun of from the gang members and they try to fit in or better known as the book defines it as self-fulfilling prophecy. Its also sad that kids these day have to have rules like don’t walk alone never walk after dark, that little stuff. I come from a really small town where there was never even a thought of someone hurting us if we were out after dark. I guess that’s the difference between a small town community and a bigger city. In a small town you know everybody and everybody knows you. Its like a small little family within the town where a city your lucky if you know your neighbors.
Terms used: self-fulfilling prophecy, gang
These two episodes of This American Life is sad, but it makes me realize how lucky most of the countries high schoolers are to not be in the same situation as the kids of Harper High School. I couldn't imagine the kind of effects that living in an area like that would have on a kid emotionally. Witnessing people being shot, and losing friends and family in shootings would be awful. However, the faculty handles these situations very well. They are able to talk to kids that have these traumatic events that have happened and try and talk them through it and cope with there emotional problems.
There are many principles from the social psychology chapter of our book that can be connected to these two episodes of My American Life. Two big one factors are prejudice and discrimination. Since there are so many different gangs that students are affiliated with it creates a lot of different groups that have negative feelings towards all the other ones and in turn they fight and shoot people in opposing gangs regardless of whether or not they had done something wrong. The victim could've simply walked one block too far and been in another gangs territory and it is enough to get them shot. Two more aspects of social psychology that are connected to this are conformity and social norm. If a student doesn't conform to the social norm of the school and activities that happens with the gangs it can make them stick out and ultimately get them killed, so kids continue to be gang related in order to have people on their side to keep them safe. There can also be positive factors seen in these episodes, like cooperation and competition. Gang members who are usually in competition with others in opposing gangs show cooperation when it comes to the football field. Gang memebers from all kinds of gangs set aside their differences and are able to cooperate and do very well together.
Psych terms: Prejudice, discrimination, conformity, social norms, cooperation and competition
After reading chapter 11, social psychology I learned many different key factors that come together to form the way we are social, and how they come together to form who we are and our behaviors. We use different key points that can help us be social without even talking. In this Act one and Act two it was a very sad story, and how they use social psychology in their life, or how Inglewood Chicago deals with social psychology.
In this talk show, they talk about shootings, gang violence, and people being scared to come to school, or come out of their house. The school started off with a pep assembly, new students getting the rules, and then a moment of silence. When I made my first connection to social psychology I did how we think about other people. When I think of this I feel scared, and I feel bad for the way they live their life. It’s almost if they are fighting to live. Then after we think about others we make quick snap judgments about people. If people were to think of Inglewood they would think it was a poor city, and had many gang affiliated action. They would think there is common death and some of this is true. In one year there were 27 deaths that came out of the high school. All these quick judgments don’t show the hard working parents, and kids not wanting to go back to the school because they are scared.
In the city you cannot walk alone, you will either be shot at or you will be shot. Try and walk into groups. Could you imagine what life would be like if you had to walk with someone at all times, or your life would be at risk. It is so scary to think about. When I think of all this happening to kids, adults, families, and school system I think of personal attributes.
When someone gets shot you shows sadness, but it becomes more common, that it now is a way of life. You form your attitude through your personal experience. You see so much violence, or a family member gets killed so in their lifestyle you know how to be stronger, and how to stay safe. Some show no sadness anymore, and you get over it. Their personalities are nothing because you have to stay strong and have to survive the game. Learn to fight back. Along with this comes from situational attributes.
This is similar to the personal attributes, but this is situations that make and form your personality. For example the principal who’s students were being killed, made her care more for her students, but at times she questioned how much more she could handle. These situations make it hard for her to keep her sane, and how much more she can handle students dying off, and her trying to stay strong to keep her bold personality. It’s the way they live, and some deal with it, and some want to get out. These are all characteristics on social psychology that I got out of this talk show. It was very sad, and that people that have to live that way.
TERMS: social psychology, personal attributes, stitutional attributes
Listening to these different episodes from This American Life made me think about many things. Listening to the part called “A Tiny Office on the Second Floor” was very difficult to listen to because of Devonte’s story. Devonte is a boy who accidently killed his fourteen year brother and now his life at home is hard and he barely goes to school. This was a very difficult section to listen to because it made me sad that his life was ruined by one stupid mistake and now more likely his life will go downhill because of that mistake. Another thing that I thought about was the appreciation for the social workers that work at Harper High School. Personally I would not be able to work at a school that have many shootings and is surrounded by gangs. I give props to the two social workers who go into that school risking their lives but also changing lives, many lives.
There are many social psychological principles that are shown throughout this school and the community. They are social exposure, social facilitation, conformity, and altruism. Social exposure is where the society instill many of our attitudes. This is shown throughout the community in this episode because many students’ attitudes come from where they live. Many of the students at Harper High School live in the neighborhoods around the school and these neighborhoods are all run by different types of gangs. Because of living in these neighborhoods the students are instilled with bad attitudes because of their society, which is run with gangs. Another thing that these students go through is their social facilitation with the gangs. Social facilitation is where the presence of others enhance performances. An example of this is with a boy named Thomas, he goes to Harper High and has witnessed many shootings and because of his social facilitation with gangs and shootings his performance in school has declined. It has declined because of the guilt he felt with one of his friends getting shot by a gang when he was there and he didn’t get shot.
Another issue that is going on in Harper High is the term of conformity. Conformity is when individuals alter their behaviors to match those of others. An example of this is with all of the students. Many students would have never been affiliated with gang members if they didn’t conform to the other students in their class. They conformed because of status. If they didn’t conform they would be on the outside and would be an easy target for the different gang members. This is also known as normative, which occurs when people go along with what the group does. The last social psychological principle is altruism. Altruism is the act of providing help when needed with no reward. This is one of the only good principle that is going on in the school and community. An example of altruism is with the principal of the high school. The principal’s name is Sanders. She has shown altruism throughout her whole time at the school. She shows it through buying things for students, such as laundry detergent and food, with her own money coming out of her pocket. Principal Sanders has been doing this for the past ten years and is still buying things for her students out of the goodness of her heart. This made me smile and wish that I could make a difference in people’s lives even if it was to buy detergent for the students so that they can come to school with clean clothes.
Psychological Terms: Social Exposure, Social Facilitation, Conformity, Normative, Altruism, and Affiliation.
After listening to this, I feel very shocked. I come from a very small town in southern Iowa, Davis County. It is literally 20 minuets away from Missouri. My graduating class was 63. It’s hard for me to believe bad things like this happen at schools. My school has always been safe; there have never been any huge things that have happened. The worst is someone escaped from jail and we were on lock down for 20 minuets until they got him. Like Mrs. Sanders school, we were reprimanded, but with love. I guess I know schools have shootings, and people die all the time from it, but I have never really processed it through my mind, because I have never had to worry about it. 29 students were shot at Harper. It really is a huge deal. It makes me scared for when I become a teacher, and when I have kids one day. I can only imagine how hard it must be to go back to school, or even enroll in the same school that the shooting happened in. My school never had gangs, we are too hick of a town to even really understand what a gang is. It would be hard to be an administrator at a school, when you have students that are members of a gang. And helping them fix the problems, so they don ‘t come into the school. Its very disturbing knowing this kind of thing goes on all the time. It’s even more disturbing to know that the children and people around this kind of thing can’t get around it. If you live there you are part of them.
Listening to this video the social psychological principals I noticed were social norms, expected standards of conduct, which influence behavior. At Harper school, The seniors were confident during their first few days at school, The freshman were always nervous, There was a pep rally, and rules for the school year the first day of school. But when they had a moment of silence to remember the ones from the shooting, was not a social norm. I feel like in places like this, being in gangs is a social norm. I also related it to Maslow’s Hierarchy of Needs. The kids are unable to be “normal” teenagers. Since these kids are always worried about their safety, they don’t have a lot of time to actually be healthy. They live in fear of stepping outside of their house to just get some fresh air. They don’t have time to make health relationships with friends, because it is too dangerous. It is sad that they have to live in fear of their lives everyday. It can be very stressful for them, which is also unhealthy if the stress level is too high.
Terms: Social Norms, Social Psychology, Stress, Behavior
This is an example of social psychology gone wrong.I grew up in a area where we heard about school shootings either connected with gang violence or a some kids decided to do a school shooting. However, it did hurt to hear that there are students who live in such dangerous conditions in a country that is so wealthy and full of resources. Nothing good comes from all of the stereotypes, conformity, deindividuation, and justification of efforts that thrives in the community around Harper high school. However, to some degree the stereotyping is normal because in an environment like that a person needs to know what a gang member looks like and what a safe person looks like. It is part of a survival technique, but once stereotypes start creating discrimination against other people that a person acts out on is when things go wrong. I also think that there is an obedience of authority in the community. The police may be the legal authority but the students have complied to also obey the authority of the gang rules for that area. Because of this students begin to become less independent on their own thinking and morals and start to become a deindividuation. This makes things worse for the people who want to stop all the aggression, tension, and gang violence. Because once taken aside and talked to the person in the gang will make justifications for the gang.
Terms: social psychology, conformity, stereotypes, deindividuation, justification of efforts, obedience
This episode is very sad. I knew that Chicago was a dangerous but I wasn’t aware of how violent the city actually was. I am amazed that this isn’t more well known. Columbine School is a household name, until this radio episode I had never even heard of Harper High School. These kids are experiencing extreme trauma. Twenty nine people were shot last year and eight died. That is incredible.
This radio show focused on how the school system is reacting to these shootings. The gangs are such a problem that the school can’t ignore them. The school officials openly talk about what gang the students are involved in. The also surprised me. The school is well aware of what things are happening outside of school. Gangs are the main social structure in school. Where you live is who you associate with. There are seven rules that were discussed in this episode. The first one is to know the geography. These gangs aren’t based on a hierarchy anymore, they are based on territory. The second rule is to never walk alone. This rule makes the third rule very confusing; never walk with someone else because that highlights your affiliation. Rule number four is don’t use the sidewalk. The students all walk in the middle of the street because it is easier to get a broad view of what is going around around them. The fifth rule is if the shoot, don’t run, instead just drop to the ground. Rule six is that shootings can happen for any reason, mostly because of retaliation. The final rule is never go outside. If you aren’t at school stay away from the block and don’t leave the house. These kids on the block are drafted into wars that they aren’t even a part of. People shoot other students for retaliation but they don’t even know what they are getting revenge for.
I have a lot of respect for the Harper School system because dealing with this high amount of violence can’t be easy. Administrators will do anything to make kids feel at home and safe while at school.
This episode is a great example of social psychology. The biggest connection in this chapter is how other people affect us. Deindividuation is a term used to describe a state of reduced individuality, reduced self-awareness and reduced attention to personal standards. This phenomenon may occur when people are a part of a group, or in this situation, a gang. This leads to conformity which is the altering of your own behaviors and opinions to match those of other people or to match people’s expectations. This is evident in the shootings. Students shoot people they don’t even know because of an old war they have nothing to do with. This is related to compliance which is the tendency to agree to do things requested by others. These students experience such intense stress and emotional trauma that it leads to frustration-aggression. This hypothesis states that the more frustrated we feel, the more likely we are to act aggressively. This was evident in the story of Devante, the young man who accidentally shot his own brother. He discussed feelings of wanted to hurt other people.
Psych terms: stress, emotional trauma, Deindividuation, self-awareness, attention, individuality, conformity, behaviors, compliance, frustration-aggression, social psychology,
It was very eye opening to listen to this episode of This American Life. I knew that violence was a problem in many schools and districts throughout the nation, but I never realized how severe the problem is. In the Harper School district on the South side of Chicago, violence and shootings are a huge problem. It amazed me at how non-chalant the students were about the shootings as well. At one point in the show, they talked about how each person on the football team had been shot at. It just amazed me to think of something so horrific. Social psychology plays a big role into what is happening at Harper high school. At Harper, you belonged to a gang based on where you lived. Gangs consisted of neighborhoods of kids and sometimes they said one gang could control up to 21 blocks. Many students at Harper are often prejudiced or discriminated solely based on what neighborhood of gang they’re in. Depending on where you live in this area, someone from another gang might shoot at you just because you were part of a different area or gang. The first thing that stood out to me that related to social psychology was how students tended to form groups and stick with these groups, or gangs. This is a great description of ingroup/outgroup. The ingroup, which is what someone belongs to, is a group someone is powerfully connected to and that we not only cheer them on, we fight for them, and sometimes we are even willing to die for them. Group membership is an important part of our social identities and something students at Harper High School valued tremendously. The out group would be any other gang or group of people, pretty much the enemy who would be the competition. The book also states that we form attitudes through experience and socialization. At Harper each person formed attitudes about other groups and other people through socializing with their own gang or group. Our opinions and thoughts about others are heavily influenced by our peers. Another topic, social norms was a huge social psychological factor when discussing Harper High School. The definition for social norms is an expected standard of conduct. At Harper, it was only part of the social norm that someone would be involved in a group or gang. They talked about how there were many more students affiliated with gangs than those who weren’t. The kids in this area grew up thinking that gangs and violence were normal. Therefore, it was just a pattern of their life, once they were old enough, they would join a gang because that’s just what people did at Harper. You could argue that many kids comply to gangs and violence simply because they are afraid not to follow social norms. Aggression may be one of the biggest factors that relates to the violence at Harper. Aggression involves the intention to harm someone else. Many situational factors led to the murders and shootings. The frustration-aggression hypothesis proposed by John Dollard suggests that the more frustrated we feel, the more likely we are to be aggressive. An example of this would be when the murder of Terrance Jones happened, the violence increased very much and students began to form new groups and rivals. Devonte talked about how he became very angry because of his situational factors as well. Bystander apathy is very prevalent in this area as well. Bystander apathy refers to the failure to offer help by those who observe someone in need. When people were shot or shot at, it wasn’t a big deal here. This episode was very interesting to listen to and I enjoyed it as well.
Terms: prejudice, discrimination, ingroup, outgroup, ingroup/outgroup bias, social norms, aggression, frustration/aggression hypothesis, comply, bystander apathy
Listening about the Harper High School and what happened was tragic, and deeply saddening. Having 8 people die and having 29 total people shot is awful to hear about and you question why it would happen. The social norms of that area were different and it caused something tragic. We as people going to school to get an education shouldn’t have to worry about getting hurt or even killed while attending our classes. Chicago is one of the most dangerous places to live, because of all the shootings that happen day in and day out. One of the students who won’t get in a gang who won’t cooperate with the social norms, and he can’t go outside now due to the fact it’s so unsafe.
People do sometimes stereotype and get the wrong message about the school though. The staff and others keep the school clean, and they have a strong connection with the school. No shootings happened in the school the last year, but parents were trying to pull their kids out because of the violence happening around the school. They have really tried to reach out to the children and teach them obedience, however the gang’s obedience on the children usually out-weighs the schools. The teachers have control in the school, but they really are scared and have no power outside of school grounds. The head of the school was thinking of stepping down after an honor student was shot down on the porch just having a normal conversation.
The really is no motivation for these shootings, but the kids keep on doing it. The problem with these shootings is because of all the gangs. Some gangs are close, and kids get killed due to being in the wrong gangs. The head of the gangs make the people below them, and the people comply which leads to more problems for the school and community. Honestly if no gangs were involved at the school, there would be no violence happening at all. We have too many gangs in the school that disagree with one another and that just leads to mass violence, instead of just talking it out. These boys weren’t raised to just talk it out, they were taught to handle their problems with violence. That would be the main cause to this problem and situation.
It’s just a different world out there, and it has taken me awhile to realize that. I come from a small town in northeast Iowa with a population of about 4,000 people. We maybe have 1 person commit suicide every 5-10 years, but never do we have murders or other injuries. You really have to watch where you’re going and always keep an eye out if you are unaware of the situation. I’ve heard stories of gangs and other violence happening in Waterloo all the time. I just hope that doesn’t find it’s way to Cedar Falls and close to UNI’s campus.
Terms: Stereotype, Social Norms, Motivation, Compliance, and Obedience
These two episodes of This American Life, were, to me, somewhat horrifying. I would have never expected that there was any system in the United States, Chicago even, that would have that type of set up. The mere fact that by moving into a house, you become part of a gang. Even though it is not the sort of gang I would imagine when I think of gangs (selling drugs, etc.)
The amount of deaths would affect any person, let alone high school students. I've only had a taste of what it would be like to live in a neighbourhood like what they described. Over the summer there was a party across the street from my house and there were representatives from two gangs there, I believe. Anyway, a guy was shot and killed and as a result my house got several bullet holes in it. It was unsettling, for sure, but I never felt fear for my safety, no anxiety. I wasn't the target. It seems that in the neighbourhoods around Harper, everyone is a target. And listening to these episodes, it really put things in perspective.
I want to find a way to help, to solve these problems, dissolve the gangs. But I don't know how. I don't know why there is not more of a resistance to the gangs, but I'm not in the same mental state as those living in these areas. These kids may feel as though they are protecting the people around them, and don't want to fear retribution because they didn't join a gang. They don't have a choice, and the way they are spoken about, they are dehumanised, they are just a gang member, not a brother or a son.
To be honest I don't understand the way they relate to each other, the way gangs work. I only know that the stereotype that I have for gangs, is not all encompassing.
Terms: Mental state, dehumanisation, anxiety, stereotype
To me this article was very shocking. It is very hard to believe that 29 kids were shot and 8 of them ended up dying, especially since almost nothing was said about it in the news. The staff at Harper High School are trying so desperately trying to fix their schools, but as soon as it starts to get slightly better, something bad happen and it goes down again.
My impressions after listening to these episodes was that the community is the problem, not the school. The principal and counselors are trying so hard to help these students and truly believe that they are not bad kids, but don’t even get the chance to show it until something happens. I got very upset towards the end upon hearing that they are losing 1.6 million dollars of turn-around money. This money they desperately need in order to fix their problems with gangs and shootings. I can’t imagine what those students go through every day. Witnessing friends get shot and maybe end up dying is very hard for anyone to do, especially teenagers. I think that the homecoming game and dance are very important to the students. These events are necessary for the school to be able to move forward and have some type of normal life again.
During these episodes I noticed several social psychological principles operating this school and community. One principle is social norms. Social norms are expected standards of conduct which influence behavior. At the beginning of the episode they talked about how Harper High School was a normal, average high school. The freshmen were nervous about finally being in high school and the seniors were confident the first few days of school. One of the other main aspects in these episodes were how people let other people influence them. The students that were going along with the gangs were forced to retaliate in order to protect their gang. This is known as compliance. It is the tendency to agree to do things that are requested to you by others. These gang members changed their own behaviors and opinions to match those of others around him or to match other people’s expectations, also known as conformity.
Words: social psychological principles, social norms, behavior, compliance, conformity
Coming from such a small town it is hard to believe that there is this type of world out there. I don’t even feel the need to lock my car when I go somewhere, so to try to imagine not even being able to stand on your front porch without worrying about getting shot, it is a difficult image to picture. I find it very said that there are places like this with innocent people losing their lives for no reason. I don’t see any reason for these behaviors, but at the same time I don’t see it changing any time soon. I can believe that good portions of people living in these parts of Chicago don’t want this life, but they don’t have any other one.
Generally, there are many stereotypes put on high school students, but to then add stereotypes about the “hood” students in Chicago, I can see how it gives them motivation to live up to it because it has become the norm. Many of these kids have an unnecessary amount of aggression, so when they take it out on someone it is taken to far which leads to tragedy and many more aggressive people wanting revenge. I’m seeing it as a viscous cycle that can’t be stopped. From listening to these two episodes I can tell that there are students who don’t want this life and are really trying to change, but living in that environment makes it very hard. It’s nice that they can go to school and not be judged by the life that they were given. The teachers and faculty don’t hold those stereotypes or behaviors against them. I think they are trying to create a new form of social psychology that fits them best.
Harper High School seems to be a “safe haven” for these kids. Even though there were many students who have lost their lives, that environment seems safe to them because of the faculty that works there. Since a lot of kids don’t have the support system and sense of security, the high school provides that for them. I find it admirable that the faculty members care so much about their students and give up their time to make them feel better about themselves. They are risking their lives just as much as anyone else, but they still do it anyway because they want to see their students succeed.
Psych Terms: Stereotype, norm, aggression, behavior
I personally think it is scary how much goes on without it making the news because it sounds like that is just how things are there which is not okay, no one should have to live with that kind of fear and dealing with losing friends and loved ones to violence. As I listened to the show, it got me thinking and it reminded me of my sophomore year of high school. The school I went to had huge fights everyday, drug problems, kids brought weapons to school (thankfully never did anything with them.) We were told sitting in a sophomore year LA class that it was said by the administration, if that stuff kept happening and increasing, in 10 years that school could potentially classify as a “inner-city” school like Chicago. I was in shock and personally doubted it when I heard it, it is a town in Iowa of all places, why would that happen there but seeing how concerned teachers and students were about the school’s future were not a joke or anything, it was a true concern. I remember 30 kids had a huge fight in the middle of the school, the parents were all called in and started fighting each other. It made the local news and put us on lockdown which was the tipping point of where the future of the school was going. Since it was students from other schools who came and started it, they had to lock the doors at all times. They were talking about maybe putting in metal detectors that students would have to go through everyday before school, especially after they found out a few students were associated in the shooting that happened a few streets away from the school. I heard about people talking about being in gangs or how gangs from Chicago were making their way into Iowa, I never knew how to feel about that whether it is true or just a “he said, she said” spreading around. Makes me wonder how much goes on without me realizing it, I have no idea if that is the truth or just high school students making stuff up. Thankfully, the violence slowed down my last two years of high school and nothing too traumatic happened in that time. I know that is nothing compared to what those students at Harper face everyday and have to live down, it is just scary that our generation is heading that way, where students have to fear going to what is supposed to be a safe place. All I have to think is why…. What is worth fighting over where you are acting in violent ways that can get you or someone you know killed. Why are drugs and violence becoming a source of entertainment for people. I don’t understand the motives of people that get in situations like this. No one should have to live in this much fear or worry about shootings or dying so young. I can not even imagine how hard it is for administration, teachers and counselors to handle this, the loss of students, the aftermath, comforting students who were upset and affected.
I think stereotypes can feed into it, especially if they are hated on, it can cause a lot of anger to a group of people who may want revenge or people who feel they are nothing but a stereotype which is a common feeling which has a lot to do with quick judgements people make. Discrimination and prejudice have a lot to do with it, I noticed that attending high school, some people were really mean and it was considered bullying. It makes people feel less than they are which can turn into anger causing a person to react in an extreme way. I think the grouping makes sense since it is mainly gangs who engage in the violence, social facilitation probably has a part in that since most people act out when there are others influencing the situation. It is sad hearing how it is probably the social norm there though. I think it is interesting how the social psychology can relate to this topic when nobody knows the motives behind it all, it kind of helps piece together logic behind why people act the way they do. I still don’t think I will totally understand why this happens myself but psychologically there are reasons behind it.
Terms used- stereotypes, discrimination, prejudice, social facilitation, social norm,
This episode of This American Life was about Harper high school in downtown Chicago. This episode is very sad and it is hard to face the truth about what happens nearly everyday in that part of the city. The saddest part of the story is that there is no way for you to get out of that area. If you live in the certain area of a gang you are basically forced to be involved with them. The only true way to get out is if you move away and these families are far too poor to move to a nicer neighborhood. There are many good kids that get roped into being in the game, and end up taking the wrong path. This story reminded me of the movie The Blind Side. How Michael was luckily saved from the situation and his friend was not. His friend ended up shot and Michael ended up raised right. The friend was a good kid, he just got in with the wrong people at the wrong time. People often stereotype that Harper is a bad school, when it is really a good school to go to. It is just the events that happen in the same neighborhood that make it seem like an unsafe place. If I had been raised in this place I do not think I would be able to pass high school because of the amount of stress I would have because of the gangs. Everyone in this school has to basically conform to another group in order to not be apart of the so called "out-group". The most interesting part of the story to me was the part about the football team. How they were able to put their differences aside and play together on one team and succeed at a high level. This is one of the reasons I love football, because it brings you together to form a brotherhood, even if you don't really like the people.
Terms: stereotype, conformity, stress, out-group.
Coming from a very rural Iowa town with a graduating class of 14, I have had absolutely no exposure to any sort of school and home life as was presented in the radio podcast. The entire radio episode was providing a new perspective on something that I could only read about in the news. It made me feel extremely emotional. Not only did I feel bad for the kids that had to grow up in an environment like that but also for the teachers and administrators who are almost definitely underpaid compared to what emotional and physical stress they have to endure every single day. However, the school presented in the episode, Harper High School, is a place of refuge for the violent life outside its walls in the community where these kids live. The school was a place where even opposing gang members could cooperate, such as the case with the incredible football team. The problem is the social life outside of school where you are “in a gang” if you live on a block that has a gang attached to it, even if it’s against your own free will. The structure of society is the source of the problems within the area yet some people had blamed it on the school atmosphere, when in reality, the school is the best place the kids can be. Especially the ones who have been through traumatic experiences that can’t get help from their own families.
Many aspects of social psychology are were being shown during this episode. One of the first obvious ones is the stereotype principle. The fact that all the kids are grouped together as active gang members is a definite stereotype. Due to the place they live, they are considered active gang members even when they do not want to have anything to do with the gangs. This stereotype leads to opposing gang members shooting or harming anybody within the locale of the gang, even if they are not, nor want to be, an active member. The stereotype also enforce considerable discrimination and prejudice towards rival gang members. Those who are members of an outgroup are considered weak and of lesser value. While those within the ingroup consider themselves as the superior human beings. The entire system of gang life leads to what we call deindividuation in which essentially, individual members of a group will not think for themselves but rather every member will think as one, thus those who follow the gang leader will believe his beliefs, rather than their own. This is a definite problem with gangs. Many of the members of the gangs have good morals and views when given their individuality, however, once you take that away the members will practice the beliefs of the authority figure, such as the gang leader.
The gang life is influenced with social norms. Gangs are a social structure within the cities that cause them to be a normality. It is a normal thing that kids become a part of a gang. When you move to a new block, you are instantly considered part of the gang, without any initiation. It has become a social norm to be affiliated with a gang in these urban areas. The social factors of gang activity naturally leads to aggression. Humans naturally feel the need to protect those of their own. It’s an evolutionary trait. The same goes for gangs. People of the same group will always try to protect their own. When something happens to their own, they will try to retaliate and protect the other members. This was the entire basis around the issue with the killing of Little James where the suspected gang was one in which half of the players on the football team were part of, thus causing the school to be cautious with every action because the retaliation could definitely happen at the homecoming gang. Thankfully nothing happened but the entire situation was one that was to be fearful of due to the social factors of gang society.
Terms: social psychology, stereotype, discrimination, prejudice, outgroup, ingroup, deindividuation, social norms, aggression, retaliation, social factors
The students at Harper High School go through things in their everyday life that no high schooler should have to go through. The fact that 29 students were shot and 8 died but it didn't make big news shows how sheltered of a life I, and so many others, really live. The school, the students, and the staff are not to blame for the violence at amongst the students, the established social customs of the community are the reason for the constant violence. There are many social psychological principles at work here, but the main one is probably the principle of social norms.
Social norms are the expected standards of conduct. Teenagers in the area that attend Harper High School are expected to be a member of a gang, even if they are or not. Gang members are expected to behave in a certain way; for example, gang members have been taught that if a member of a rival game walks on their turf they are suppposed to be harrassed. The people walking on the rival's turf are expected to take the abuse and not fight back, if they break the social norm by talking to a rival gang member or confronting the harrasser, it usually becomes a violent situation. They say most of the shootings of Harper students happen because of gang interactions, so clearly people breaking the social norms of gangs are dealt with violently.
Another psychological principle affecting the students of Harper High School is normativie influence. Normative influence is, simply a reason for people to comform. Conforming is the altering of our behaviors or opinions to match those of others or to match what is expected of us. Students of Harper High School were influenced by normative influence. Normative influence entails changing their behaviors or opinions because they are doing it to fit in and be accepted. The students were almost forced to join a gang because every neighborhood had a gang, so in order to fit in with their friends they had to become a part of that gang.
Finally, another social psycholgical principle at work was the principle of mere exposure. Personally I was appalled by the amount of gang activity and the acceptance of it at Harper High School, but after thinking about the mere exposure effect it made more sense to me. The mere exposure effect basically says that just being exposed to something for periods of time can make you more comfortable with events. Students and faculty at Harper were so comfortable discussing and dealing with gang activity because it has been in the culture since they have been there, so they were exposed to it, causing them to accept the behavior as normal.
Psychological terms: psychological principles, social norms, normative influence, comfoming, behaviors, mere exposure, mere exposure effect
These episodes made me feel upset to say the least. I can’t believe just because you live in a house on a certain street means you’re in a gang whether you want it or not. Also, I can’t believe you can’t walk outside or sit on your porch without having people shooting at you. It’s hard to believe that kids have to go through this. It would be really hard growing up in this community because of all the gang violence. I found it interesting to hear how the kids got guns. They said they get guns for free sometimes and from the other gang members. This isn’t helping the gang violence obviously since it’s so easy getting a gun. There was one thing that made me feel better and that was the school. The school they explained to be nice and clean. The thing that made me feel better was the people working there, these people are really nice to the students no matter who they are and they just want to help every kid out. One social psychological principle used is self-fulfilling prophecy and that is when a person acts the way they do in front of a group of people just so they don’t get made fun of or discriminated. Even if someone doesn’t want to be in a gang they feel obligated so they don’t stand out. Terms used: self-fulfilling prophecy, discrimination.
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This episode of This American Life was very touching and sparked many emotions while I listened to it. I was very interested in how many shootings they had in the area around their school. Seeing how badly it affects the kids and the lives of everyone at and around the school. When they said how many shootings happened in that past year, I was extremely surprised. I do not know how people can live and feel safe in this kind of environment. Hearing about the 29 injured people involved in shootings and the 8 student deaths was very depressing. They talked about living in this neighborhood with all the gang violence as causes for shootings, and it all just seemed incredibly scary to me. Hearing about the boy Devante shooting his brother was very sad. When they told me about how he was with his brother and they were not aware that the gun was loaded. He accidentally shot his brother and went down and told his mom to call an ambulance because he accidentally shot him in the chest. After the ambulances came and picked him up, they took him to the hospital and died before his mother got there. Hearing all of this made me very sad and touched me deeply. When Devante said how his family pretends like nothing happened and doesn’t say anything about his brother, I didn’t understand why they wouldn’t talk about tit. It sounds very difficult to go through something like that. I cannot imagine how hard that would be to lose a sibling or a loved one and witness it.
Shootings related to gangs are unbelievable to me. I don’t get how people can be involved with that kind of thing. But when I heard of the police officer that was talking about gangs and how common it is and that kids and teens are always a part of them, it shocked me.
In the second part of the episodes we learned about Terrance Green. There were many things that the community did to remember Terrance and some of his friends even went by his last name. There was even a video that some kids put up threatening other gangs that wasn't part of theirs.
I enjoyed learning about this, but overall I am very concerned about this kind of thing happening because it scares me and I feel bad for anyone having to live in that kind of environment. I hope that things like this do not keep going on and become less of a problem.
Alberto Sveum
These podcasts make me feel disturbed and thankful to have grown up in a safe neighborhood where violence wasn’t so ubiquitous. I am disturbed that children have to be thrust into such awful conditions. Shootings and violence should not be a regular part of school curriculum.
The school obviously wants to end the violence, and the children want it as well, but in order to remain safe, it seems the kids must be obedient to the rules of the different gangs. Much of the violence was attributed to vengeance, which I think makes sense. The senseless killings and vengeance murders seem to be reinforcing these awful behaviors. Being surrounded by gangs and such terrible conditions basically locks these children into a deadly cycle; it is the social norm to be in a gang.
Another unfortunate aspect of the gangs involving such young people, is that these kids can’t even make a real decision on the danger they are in. All of the people interviewed seem to be saying “this is just how it is.” To a certain degree, it is, but if these children were old enough, with full functioning brains that are capable of critical thinking, they could likely do more for themselves. The children are vulnerable and are in no shape to try and deal with shootings and violence, that to them are daily hassles, and still pursue an education or a life.
One thing I found extremely powerful was the drive that the principal had to keep his students safe. He, no doubt, is even in danger, but is willing to reach out and try to help. It deeply saddens me that someone so involved with kids would ever have to bury so many of them. The school sounds like the only real safe haven for the students, which surprises me, because the podcast said the children weren’t even safe outside their own homes. One student said to try and stay after school as long as possible to remain safe; it sounds quite strange, because usually I hear people trying to stay away from school as much as possible.
Psychological terms: obedience, reinforcement, critical thinking, daily hassles, social norm
This episode made me feel sad and upset. It is disturbing that our world has to involve things such as gangs, school shootings, and poor moral structure in their surroundings. It’s not fair to say that all of our society has this problem, but unfortunately places such as Harper High school has to deal with this. The worst part is that the community knows that there is a problem within their town, but people fail to confront it. Policeman and parents have failed to take action against their troublesome gangs in town, and because they haven’t taken action against it, the life of innocent kids were lost. I feel sorry for the faculty at Harper High School. They can only do so much to save their students from the violence of gangs, and frankly they aren’t getting the help and support from the community like they should.
There are many different social psychological aspects that are presented by this particular show. One of the biggest ones is compliance. This is when people allows others to influence them. This is something that is very strong amongst gangs. Some of the reason that kids fall for gangs could possibly be from the lack of attention they receive at their home. The gangs then take them in as part of their “family”. They make the kids trust them, and make them easier to subject ideas. This is the same as persuasion. I would say that this is more of an example of central route persuasion. This type of persuasion requires less critical thinking. Another psychological term that could be used to describe some of the things going on is, “thin slices of behavior”. Like the boy they talked about in the show who talked about how he noticed that his family no longer looked at him the same, he was reading their body language. I believe that the same thing can be used when two gangs come in to conflict, their body language would be able to detect the tension that is between the gangs.
I hope that people start to take this tragedy seriously. It is a very serious problem that shouldn’t be taken lightly. IT is a situation that should be taken into the hands of the community and fixed. I just hope that it happens before another tragedy can occur.
Terms: thin slices of behavior, compliance, fear, trust, body language, central route persuasion, persuasion,
These episodes were not nearly as emotional for me as past episodes have been – there was no tearing up in the Rialto, no overtaking of my thoughts. I could understand their feelings of hopelessness toward the end of the second episode – it’s easy to relate to that feeling of just being tired. However, I was inspired by Crystal and how she worked so hard and so selflessly toward trying to make these students’ lives better.
In terms of social psychological aspects that I could see at work, the ingroup/outgroup bias was by far the most prominent. The students who were involved in these gangs didn't have much choice – as in, regardless of their attitude toward gangs, the students had to be compliant to the social norms of the area. The students were assigned a group to which they belonged based on their address, and then simply began to treat those outside of their group with hostility.
Though many may have originally assumed that the area’s violence would be based on personal attributions (unfortunately, these assumptions may have root in stereotypes), those who live in the area give it situational attributions – even members of the police agreed that it is impossible to avoid being in a gang if you are a student who attends Harper High School.
I also strongly saw persuasion at work, as seen primarily through Crystal. Aware that the students are in a less than ideal situation with a lot of aggression, that they have to deal with a lot, and that they liking question the worth of themselves, Crystal exclaimed consistently phrases like: “I love you,” “I appreciate you in advance,” and “You are valuable.” Crystal also shows prosocial tendencies, in that she plans out spending her lottery winnings largely for the school and students.
Devonte may have been displaying support for the frustration-aggression hypothesis. Accidentally killing his brother and thus being all but shunned by his family frustrated him greatly. He couldn't get them to understand that it was an accident nor to get them to give him the emotional support that he needed. This frustration continues to build for him, and he only feels better when he acts aggressively, as seen through the fight he got into and the relief he expressed he had after he hurt his hand. Moreover, he himself suspects that this will be a recurring pattern.
Ingroup/outgroup bias, attitude, compliance, social norms, personal attributions, sterotypes, situational attributions, persuasion, aggression, prosocial, frustration-aggression hypothesis
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This series of episodes of This American Life were definitely very powerful in regards to how I felt towards the beginning of the first part. The entire student body had a moment of silence for students of the school who lost their lives the previous year due to shootings. This made me very sad and distraught even though I had not attended the school or known the students who were killed. What surprised me was that the number of students shot (29) and the number of deaths (8) still didn’t reach the large audience. The problem with Harper High School was that they tend to have a rollercoaster experience with unfortunate events. What I mean by this is that something horrifying happens and then everything becomes better; quickly again, something bad happens. I believe that the main issue with these circumstances is not due to the school environment and the issues inside the school, but the problems and events that occur outside of the classroom. Chicago has a history of being very notorious for its criminal activity and the amount of violence that spews out of the city.
Social norms become apparent among the students that attend the Harper. The difference between the seniors and the freshmen’s reactions to the roll call at the commencement of the assembly on the first day of school. Social influence was a serious problem among the students, specifically gang affiliation. Many of the students are part of gangs at Harper, fighting and disputing with each other, creating tension in the school. The expectations of the gang members was to be tough and fearless; the members must act the way they’re supposed to in order to remain loyal, respected, and accepted among the other members. This creates a lot of problems with authority and breaking rules and laws, causing many problems among young people. The surprising part of this series was the discussion of how schools were broken down compared to the present. In the past students who were gifted academically or athletically were not bothered by the gangs. Nowadays, everyone is part of a gang, no matter where you live or if you are “better” than someone. The show also discusses the rules or norms of being part of gang life. It explains how everyone walks in groups or how all people walk down the middle of a street. Another rule was that you can be shot for any reason, depending on how the person negatively affected reacts. A very important rule was to never step outside of the house or to come home as late as possible. My brother was affiliated with a gang that him and his friends created when first coming to America from Bosnia. Their main reason for making the “gang” was to protect themselves and to stick together as a group. Being the new minorities of Waterloo, Iowa created many problems, mostly in schools. My brother was involved with many fights in school and helping his friends by jumping in to their fights if they needed it. This became a daily hassle among Bosnians in particular because every day was questionable, always doing negative things, from fighting and skipping class, to drinking and doing drugs. I have some kind of connection to these students because of my brother being part of a gang but I was very lucky because I never had to experience living in highly gang-affiliated neighborhoods or my brother getting too deep in to gang life. It is very unfortunate for the families of the students that were affected by the events discussed on the radio show, as well as the issues that the students still have to live with.
Terminology: Social norms, expectation, authority, daily hassle, social influence
Listening to these episodes about the high school made me feel really upset. I knew that in our country there were thousands of places like this, but just hearing the stories play out in detail really got to me. It’s not that all these kids are bad, or that they just don’t think straight. The fact of the matter is that things like this existed before these kids were ever born, and they grew up in a place where that’s all the streets and blocks knew. It talks about how the gangs weren’t about drugs anymore, but more about where you live. I can see how this is true because where I am from, there is no real mention of gangs outright, but there definitely are some. There are places downtown that are known to have a lot of criminal activity and some of these rules that the students made up to be “safe” I found myself following when I hung out with my friends from school who just happened to live in a worse part of Cedar Rapids. It’s hard to hear about this happening so much. I live in what I would call one of the better or best parts of Cedar Rapids, on the North East side. But even there, just not even a mile or two away, there are a set of apartments that I have always known to stay away from. They are increasingly dangerous, with many shootings, murders, fires, and drug deals going on it seems just about every year. The random spread of this activity is what makes it scary, and for the kids who are living in the blocks next to Harper, they can’t escape from the crime either. I couldn’t believe that there had been so many deaths and shootings in the school in just that previous year, and it really freaked me out because I don’t remember even hearing about it at all on the news. It’s surprising because even though none of those shootings occurred in the school, they were all highly related with it, so it’s sad to see that the deaths that did occur just outside the school on the streets did not garner the same news coverage as those that have happened within the walls of a school somewhere else in the United States. I feel that the role of cognitive dissonance plays a pretty huge role in the situation at Harper High School. The theory in this case is based in my observation off of the fact that all of the students obviously know that there is nothing good coming from gangs, and there is severe eminent danger involved with them, and with owning weapons like guns. Yet, even though all the students must know this to be true, most all of them seem to remain a part of the gangs because either they have no choice due to where they live, or because they feel that the trade-off of avoiding all social interaction is impossible, like shown by one of the students who was a junior at the time whom hosted bible studies at his home. The students also feel that the gangs are the only things that will keep them relatively safe when walking. This is portrayed in the catch-22 between the rules never walk alone, and never walk in a group. Walking alone yields the consequence of being jumped, while walking in a group (like the show states) highlights your gang’s affiliation and can prompt shootings just for walking in a group of people, or standing on a porch in a group. All in all I found these episodes to be highly eye-opening and required me to think a lot about how much different our own school systems are from the ones in places like where Harper is located. I feel that the school is doing its absolute best to minimize the amount of violence and expresses a maximum amount of positive Social Facilitation by rewarding and encouraging its students to do well and get involved. Just like how even though there are many different gangs that are a part of the football team, they all seem to get along and come together for the better of the team. This cohesion is similar to the kind found amongst the social workers office and the students who seek help there.
Terms: Cognitive Dissonance, Social Facilitation
Wow, this episode really hit me in many different ways. First off thats so sad and my heart hurts for everyone of those children families having to live in that life style and loosing a child so young, I couldn't fathom that. But it also made me quite upset, why has our government not steeped in and did something about this problem. Yes they do the 4 year plan, but the schools need more help than that. At the end of the second episode when all the principles and head leaders came on and said where they were from and how many kids they know who have died just shocked me. Why aren't these national news and broad cased. Its a young child's life and there needs to be something changed.
One social psychology principle seen is social norms. This is very present in the school and very different than what many people are use to vs the norms in their schools. The norms in this school are to be in a gang, own a gun and to have known someone who has been killed. Personal attributions is one of many social psychologically principles that were shown in this podcast. Personal attributions are people explanations for why event or actions occur that refer to the peoples internal characteristic. This is present when people are hating on each other and the rival gains just because its suppose to be that way. They shoot people out of pure hate for that groups, nothing out. In-groups are a very big part of this school. In-groups are groups you are so connected with that you cheer them on in fights and will do anything for them, even die. Harper Schools there are very many in-groups. Also out-groups go on at this school, each person has their own in-group and it usually only one in-group and the rest of the gangs to all the other people are out-group because they do not belong within that group. You actually are put into a group weather you like it or not and you become very strongly connected with everyone in that group. Also another social psychology principle is the mere exposure effect is often seen in Harper schools. The mere exposure effects is the increase in liking something due to the repeated exposer. This is showed when people at the the school see more and more violence and more and more gangs. This violence and gang involvement happens inside and outside of the school but it is continuous.
Another major topic covered in this chapter that was very much a problem in these children's life was stressors. The amount situations that these children at that age that they should never even be exposed to in their life they are consumed by. Their daily hassles are most peoples major life stressors. This effects all aspects of their life, in school, grads, relationships, their mental and psychically health. The students aren’t the only ones affected by all the gain violence though as we
can see from this story because the social worker, Crystal, mentioned how the stress of the job and the worrying for the students actually got to the point where she thought she was having a stroke. She described her bodies stress response to be causing her numbness throughout her body.
Students should be able to enjoy their high school career without worrying about who is going to jump out from behind the trees and if the police are going to come and raid your house and try to find a gun. I find this topic to be very saddling and wish more people were aware.
Personal Attributions, In-groups, Out-groups, Mere Exposure Effect, Social Norms, stressors,stress, daily hassles, major life stressors,
while listening to the podcasts this week I was basically in shock that kids who are the same age I was a little over 2 years ago had lives so completely different from mine. Hearing about how they couldn’t even walk a block over without having to fear for their lives or the fact that they had to carry guns with them. The most shocking thing was about the 29 shootings they had the previous years. What was even more shocking was that you never hear about this on national news. The way these kids are conditioned into being in a ganged is insane to me. They don’t have a choice either. When they are young they can focus on sports and not have to worry about crossing into the next block without but as soon as they get to a certain height they now have to worry about other gangs trying to mess with them. Once it gets to that point is when they become part of the gangs. One thing that surprised me was that they really don’t get initiated into them like I always thought. All the stereotypes of them having to do something crazy like kill someone or that they all just sell drugs didn’t apply to them. They were just thrown into it because of where they lived. It was almost a way to protect them. All the social norms that school and neighborhood had about being in the game seems so natural to them. The kids from the podcast seem like they are kind of scared but at the same time it is so natural to them and normal for them that they don’t care. They even talk to the principal's and teachers about the gangs without hesitation. The teachers and principals are even scared for their own lives. They know what goes on and they try to help and stop it but they also know they can only do so much because it is just a social norm. The kids are conformed into the gangs as they get older and I think they forget who they are and just become another person. There is so much deindividualization going on because they lose themselves in everything that goes on. There is one kid who didn’t conform and he has to watch out for his own safety constantly and stays in his house all the time. He even holds bible studies at his own home that other kids attend.
All the gangs are kids that go to school together and who are actually probably really alike but they discriminate against each other because of what block they live on. There are even some gangs that fight wars that were so many years ago that they don’t even know how or why it started. They’re fighting a battle and risking their lives for no reason but it is just how they show their obedience to their gang. Many of these kids complied to what they were supposed to do or told to do just to survive. It didn’t matter anymore if they were good at sports or excelled in school like it had before. They basically had to so that they could survive. The rules they had were very conflicting and confusing. They couldn’t be seen walking alone but they couldn’t walk in groups. Also it mentions how they felt safer walking in the middle of the street but if where I am from you wouldn't ever hear anyone saying they felt safer to walk in the middle of the street.
Terms: conditioned, social norms, compliance, deindividualization, stereotypes, conform, discrimination