Please
read chapter 4. After reading the chapter, please respond to the following
questions:
(Note: to
help with organization points please keep the numbering)
1a) What topic
did you find interesting?
1b) Why was it interesting to you?
2a) What person
did you find interesting?
2b) Why were they
interesting to you?
3a) What
do you think of the overall message of the chapter?
3b) Was it interesting to you? Why or why not?
4) What
did you read in the chapter that you think will be most useful to in
understanding the history of psychology?
5) How,
in what ways, does this chapter relate (build on) to what you have already
learned about the History of Psychology or to material you have learned in
other classes?
6a) What
topic would you like to learn more about?
6b) Why?
7) What
ideas or questions related to what you were reading did you have while reading
the chapter?
8) Once
you are done with your post make list of the terms and terminology you used in
your post.
Let us
know if you have any questions,
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1) I found that learning more about psychophysics was interesting because it is something that we are learning about in another class. Psychophysics is the study of physical stimuli and the sensations and perceptions they affect. This is interesting to me because the brain is all electrical singles and this kind of study looks at the association between things like the visual system and how we know that if
something we see is being perceived accurately or not.
2) The section about experimental psychology was interesting; Wilhelm Wundt was the founder of this new type of psychology. He set out to discover a new type of psychology using his background in physiology. Experimental psychology is working with any type of human or animal participant to further the understanding of the field of psychology; one interesting out come from experimental psychology was Pavlov bell findings with the dogs.
3) Hermann Ebbinghaus and his unassociated stimuli were interesting. I enjoyed learning about his work on forgetting and learning how it happens at a rapid rate. If we work with learning and remembering as he says we can better save time and not waste energy relearning something after we forget it. This was interesting and I would love to look more into some of this other thoughts.
4) One thing I did not find interesting in regards to Psychology but would be interesting in an educational sense was the idea of Wissenschaft, this is the idea of freedom in research and original research. For psychology I feel like it is kind of a give in to work freely when doing your own research. It however does sound good with the educational setting to let students a high level of education is free to pressure their own interests like in the college setting allowing students to take any class they want.
5) I think the overall theme of the chapter seems to look at work done in Germany, where we know a lot of psychology took place. I think having a better understand of the people who were behind the works in Germany and what lead to their research will help show us where American psychology and other places though out the world go to the place they are now.
6) This chapter builds on previous chapters by introducing the new ideas such as experimental psychology, this is something that is used a lot and as the previous chapters did they build on a new idea to further our understanding of the next. I can only assume that experimental psychology will be used to build upon the next chapters.
7) I would like to learn more about psychophysics and how we use it today in psychology. I think the understanding of this is going to help me not only understand with other psychology classes but help me understand how the world around me is interrupted as well as how the my mind may view and help me daily.
8) while reading this chapter I thought about how experimental psychology has become what it has today with all the review boards and what changed in society has made it that we need to have these review boards. As well as what the basic start was to experimental psychology and how the first studies got started.
9) Psychophysics, sensations, perceptions, experimental psychology, stimuli, Wissenschaft, Hermann Ebbinghaus, Wilhelm Wundt
1a) What did you find interesting?
1b) Why was it interesting to you?
Some parts of psychophysics were interesting. Psychophysics is a relationship between perception of a stimulus and the physical elements of the stimuli being perceived. Weber was curious about “muscle sense” and wanted to know how much of a role this sense plays in making judgments about weights. Example is if two separate weights are sitting on a table, and you go to lift them and make a judgment about how much they weight before you lift them. This was known as Weber’s Law.
2a) What did you find interesting?
2b) Why was it interesting to you?
Hermann Ebbinghaus and his study about memory and learning were interesting. I found the part about forgetting to be especially interesting because I am constantly forgetting things. I could relate to this topic quite a bit. Forgetting is a part of many people’s lives, but many of us do not know why it happens or if there is a way to decrease forgetfulness. I think it would be important for people to practice or work with remembering.
3a) What did you find interesting?
3b) Why was it interesting to you?
Wilhelm Wundt is known as the founder of experimental psychology. He used his background in physiology using experimental methods to create a new psychology. He studied immediate conscious experience using controlled conditions. Experimental psychology deals with working with any human or animal to have a better understanding of psychology.
4a) What one (1) thing did you find the least interesting?
4b) Why wasn't it interesting to you?
For the most part I felt this chapter was pretty interesting. The only part that I did not care for was at the beginning of the chapter where it gave background information and education in Germany. I just could not get into that section.
5) What did you read in the chapter that you think will be most useful to in understanding the history of psychology?
I think knowing the different people responsible for findings in psychology is important because I feel like their studies will build onto to future studies. I also think having an understanding of their studies is important because they could relate to different topics and even other aspects of our lives.
6) How, in what ways, does this chapter relate (build on) to the previous chapters?
Previous chapters relate to this chapter because they have the same concept. By that I mean, they have the same layout. The content within each chapter is different, but each chapter has a certain theme and gives background information about that topic or theme.
7a) What topic would you like to learn more about?
7b) Why?
I would like to learn more about Hermann Ebbinghaus and his studies because I think learning why and how to decrease forgetfulness is interesting. I also would not mind learning more about “muscle sense” in Weber’s terms because it is something we come in contact with daily.
8) What ideas related to what you were reading (what did you think about) did you have while reading the chapter?
I could relate some parts of this chapter to everyday life. I could also relate this chapter to different classes and situations. Ebbingshaus and his studies on memory and forgetting are part of everyday life, along with learning.
9) Once you are done with your post make list of the terms and terminology you used in your post.
Psychophysics, experimental psychology, muscle sense, Weber’s Law, Hermann Ebbinghaus, Wilhelm Wundt, stilumi
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Chapter 4
Please read chapter 4. After reading the chapter, please respond to the following questions:
Next you will be asked what three things from the chapter that you found interesting?
1a) What did you find interesting? Ernst Weber
1b) Why was it interesting to you? I found Ernst Weber interesting because of his work with physical psychology, or psychophysical. I remember learning about, and demonstrating Weber’s two point threshold. The two point threshold is the point where a person’s perception changes from feeling one point on the skin to feeling two different points. The more sensitive the skin, depending on where on the body, the smaller amount of threshold. The less sensitive the skin, the farther apart the needle points had to be for the person to identify that there were two different points I always found this very cool that at different point on your body you can feel two different points, but at other points you can. I also never thought about the fact that this had to deal with perception, and that all of this related to psychology. The other things I found interesting about Weber was his other contribution to psychology, with Weber’s Law, which dealt with “muscle sense”. (97) People could make more distinct differences in weight when actually using their muscles, rather than with inactive muscles. The just noticeable difference in his theory was kind of confusing to me, but I just found it interesting that so much of Weber’s theory had to do with perception, which I just never thought about before.
2a) What did you find interesting? Gustav Fechner
2b) Why was it interesting to you? Fechner was interesting because his life was crazy! The fact that he had his MD and never practiced medicine is interesting. Why go to all that work and then never practice? Then he did the experiments with afterimages, and stared at the sun too long and damaged his eyesight to badly that he had to sit in the darkness, and due to his blindness and neurosis he was basically and invalid! Also, it’s interesting that he managed to get better and conquer his neurosis, something that is treated with medicine today is pretty cool. In thinking about the sun experiment, I wonder if he knew whether the sun could damage your eyes, or if his experiments taught the rest of the world that staring at the sun can cause eye damage. He was also interesting, because he wanted to disprove materialism. So, he was against the new ideas that science could prove everything.
3a) What did you find interesting? Ebbinghaus
3b) Why was it interesting to you? The creation of nonsense syllables and his way of experimenting with memory. He chose to use serial learning in order to test his memory and association between the nonsense syllables. This was interesting because of the way he made up nonsense syllables to test, I thought this was a pretty ingenious way to test as the “words” aren’t words at all and they have no meaning, making it more difficult to remember. By not having them mean anything, you wouldn’t be able to make associations about them as easily as other words. Some words hold more meaning, and are perhaps easier to remember, for some people over others.
4a) What one (1) thing did you find the least interesting? Absolute threshold, difference threshold, and just noticeable difference
4b) Why wasn't it interesting to you? I hate math. My brain basically turns off when I see numbers in any way, shape, or form for the most part. So when the text, at the beginning discussed Fechner’s work with thresholds with numbers, my mind just wanted to shut off, push fast forward, and get through the section. However, it was not as bad as I thought, and there wasn’t as much with numbers as my brain feared in the beginning.
5) What did you read in the chapter that you think will be most useful to in understanding the history of psychology? I think this chapter will be useful because you can finally see the emergence of the field of psychology on its own. The convergence occurred between philosophy and physiology. These early developments will lead to greater discoveries later on, as many discoveries are based on earlier psychologists errors.
6) How, in what ways, does this chapter relate (build on) to the previous chapters? In the discussion of Ebbinghaus, the chapter discussed the British philosophers empiricists theory of association. Ebbinghaus built off of the empiricists ideas of association and Fechner’s “scientific approach to the mind’s sensory process” (115). He thought that if sensations could be measured, so could association. Ebbinghaus brought scientific theory to the empiricists ideas of association.
7a) What topic would you like to learn more about? Gustav Fechner
7b) Why? I want to learn more about him because his life was so interesting. I would like to learn more about his depression and his neurosis, so basically I would like to learn more about his life. I would also like more information about afterimages, because I think that’s an interesting thing that affects everyone.
8) What ideas related to what you were reading (what did you think about) did you have while reading the chapter? One thing I noted was that Ebbinghaus in his experiments on memory was that he was the only person he tested. This made me wonder why he didn’t experiment using anyone else. I feel like this was a bias example. He knew what he was testing for, and more than that he also made up the nonsense syllables himself. I feel like it would be easier for him to do the experiment as he made up the experiment himself. I wonder what would have changed if he used other test subjects, I wonder if the results would be different.
9) Once you are done with your post make list of the terms and terminology you used in your post. Ernst Weber, two point threshold, Weber’s Law, psychophysical, Gustav Fechner, materialism, absolute threshold, difference threshold, just noticeable difference (jnd), empiricists, Ebbinghaus, nonsense syllables, serial learning
1a) What did you find interesting?
Ebbinghaus
1b) Why was it interesting to you?
I thought the concept of serial learning was very interesting. It’s something we even learn about in intro to psych and it does become important later. From this work we then discover how many words or things we can remember after they have been said. Which is 7 + or – 2. It was neat to learn how this started from the nonsense syllables and his work with memory there. I thought it was intriguing that he only conducted the studies of nonsense syllables on himself. He never conducted the research with a student or on anyone else. It was also neat to find out that he created a sentence completion test right around the same time as the IQ test.
2a) What did you find interesting?
Fechner
2b) Why was it interesting to you?
Well firstly I found it interesting that he was very sick. He went into a neurosis, but was able to come out of that, which I think is admirable. He experienced many symptoms that I’m sure would be hard to deal with. However, he was able to cope with them and be successful. He did not believe in materialism and instead believed in the “day view”. He also believe that the mind and body could be united. He studied the difference of weight between objects and whether or not we could tell that difference. The sensation starts and the absolute threshold where it is first noticed and then if the difference becomes noticeable it is the difference threshold. He did many studies with the thresholds. He really created the field of psychophysics.
3a) What did you find interesting?
Muller
3b) Why was it interesting to you?
Well first off I find it interesting that a lot of his work isn’t translated and that that could be why he is not as well known. I guess you would think that by now his works would be published and would be known and be seen as important to the field by now. I liked that he believe that the individual has an active role in forming the associations for memory and the nonsense syllables. I believe that is true, we find ways to cluster things or ways to remember things better. I also do believe that we experience retroactive inhibition. If I have multiple things to memorize for a test, but they are two separate things I can sometimes get them confused and forget which things go with what topic. I also appreciated the fact that he let women psychologists in his lab. It’s not something that many people in that time period did, but it is a very kid gesture.
4a) What one (1) thing did you find the least interesting?
I guess my only thing was that there was a lot of information just of Wundt, and although he made many contributions it would have been nice to learn about the other people more and maybe less focus on Wundt.
4b) Why wasn't it interesting to you?
I just seemed to lose concentration. I’d rather learn about what he did and why it’s important to the field of psychology and see that easily rather than having to almost search for that information. I was just overwhelmed by all the information they had on Wundt, so then it was hard to pick out what was really important about his studies and findings.
5) What did you read in the chapter that you think will be most useful to in understanding the history of psychology?
Well now we are learning more things that are actually used in psychology today. Thing like the reaction times tests and the serial learning techniques. These are things we talk about and discuss in other classes, so there seems to be more of a connection to modern day and history.
6) How, in what ways, does this chapter relate (build on) to the previous chapters?
Well this chapter is constantly building on the first chapter with historicism. Where we look at where we are now in the field and where we were then and the resources that were available at that time. The also once again mentioned the mind and body connection through Fechner that was talked about with respect to Descartes. In this chapter they also tie in things we do voluntarily and the free will that we have.
7a) What topic would you like to learn more about?
Memory and the associations
7b) Why?
I’d like to learn more about memory and are associations, such as how we can strengthen our older associations and also how we group things together and the serial learning and how that all pertains to studying. I am always studying so learning more about memory and how it works can help me a lot with school.
8) What ideas related to what you were reading (what did you think about) did you have while reading the chapter?
How is sensation measured? Are sensations the same for everyone? Why can’t we remember more than 9 items? Why do we cram studying when it is better to study a little bit over a long period of time?
9) Once you are done with your post make list of the terms and terminology you used in your post.
Psychophysics, Fechner, Materialism, absolute threshold, difference thresholds, serial learning, Ebbinghaus, Wundt, mental testing, retroactive inhibition, historicism
1a) What did you find interesting? 1b) Why was it interesting to you?
I thought the section on Studying Higher Mental Processes was very interesting since it was taking the study of senses to a whole new level. Wundt’s desire to study learning, thinking, language, and the effects of culture sparked my attention since they paved the roads to social psych, anthropology, and forensic psychology; all in which are subjects that are fascinating to me. It was cool to read how Wundt was able to study different cultures and gain a true sense of knowledge of different cultures and languages, both of which are subjects studied today in Psychology and Anthropology.
2a) What did you find interesting? 2b) Why was it interesting to you?
The Close-Up section on James Cattell was really cool to read. I liked that it included personal letters sent from him to his parents. It was interesting to me because it gave me a better perspective on what he was going through and gave me more of a personal connection to what he was going through while publishing his work rather than just reading about the work that he published.
3a) What did you find interesting? 3b) Why was it interesting to you?
I found the section on Oswald Kulpe very intriguing. I think that it was rather unorthodox to hear of someone putting in so much effort into their work and studies, yet he published very little work under his own name, preferring to give his students credit. I could tell that he was definitely one of those professors that his students would never forget, and was one that truly cared about creating an enriched learning environment for his students.
4a) What one (1) thing did you find the least interesting? 4b) Why wasn't it interesting to you?
One thing that did not really spark my attention as much was the section on mental chronometry. Between seeing the various equations and different methods this information was hard for me to pay attention to, it kind of reminded me of a math or physics book since it had all of the formulas. I have never been too great at studying formulas/they can be confusing, so it intimidated me a bit.
5) What did you read in the chapter that you think will be most useful to in understanding the history of psychology?
This chapter talked a great deal about Wundt’s works and how he is generally known as the founder of experimental psychology. It is useful to note that a lot of what tends to happen in history is that a lot of things happen at once or around the same time, one person’s ideas can inspire something else in another person. Also, because many of these great minds researched alongside each other, they were able to collaborate ideas and experiment.
6) How, in what ways, does this chapter relate (build on) to the previous chapters?
The introduction reviews us back from chapter 2 and 3 about how psychology began to emerge from philosophers and European scientists understanding physiology in the nervous system. From this, the chapter builds off of the knowledge of those philosophers and physiologists, which then led to the foundation of modern and experimental psychology.
7a) What topic would you like to learn more about? 7b) Why?
I liked learning that in a time where the University of Gottingen did not award advanced degrees to women, Muller welcomed several notable women psychologists. He was a man ahead of his time in that he recognized that women were competent lab workers. As a woman, this interested me and made me wonder about when women became formally recognized to get advanced degrees and I wondered if Muller ever got in trouble with what he was doing since it was not acceptable during his time.
8) What ideas related to what you were reading (what did you think about) did you have while reading the chapter?
I found myself asking what it would be like for me as a woman during this time since I am interested in psychology and if I would have been interested during that time since women were unable to be awarded advanced degrees, but then I also wondered when they were able to get degrees and what caused that to happen. I also really liked reading the letters from Cattell since they were so personal and wondered if there was going to be any other personal excerpts like this in the book.
9) Once you are done with your post make list of the terms and terminology you used in your post.
Wundt, Studying higher mental processes, social psychology, anthropology, forensic psychology, James Cattell, Oswald Kulpe, mental chronometry, Muller.
1) I thought that Fechner’s idea of an absolute threshold and a difference threshold to be interesting to learn about. I liked that they related this concept to a light getting dimmer and then getting brighter. Absolute threshold is when we begin to first notice a sensation, compared to difference threshold when see a stimulus increase above the threshold, and the person notices a slight difference such as the dimmer switch being messed with. I also thought that Ernest Weber’s two-point threshold was interesting to learn about. He suggested a two-point threshold in which the point of perception changes from feeling “one” point to feeling “two”. In other words the points don’t have to be very far apart before being noticed as two distinct points rather than one. I think it is interesting to learn about thresholds as they try to explain why we feel what we feel.
2) I found the method of mental chronometry to very interesting as it is pretty much considered reaction time today. I thought the equation they came up with to determine reaction time to be very interesting as well. The equation A=B+.12 was used in determining one’s personal equation in which they could compare their own reaction time to others to examine the accuracy of their findings. Also the subtractive method was an important concept developed by Donders. He would measure the time taken as soon as possible after perceiving the light. The procedure would then be “complicated” by adding other mental tasks to the mix. The observer might be asked to respond only if a red light came on, if the light was another color. No response was to be made. This was done so that everything could be addressed in reaction time in making discriminations between colors. I thought these methods were interesting to learn about because they provide ways in order to eliminate some error in a finding.
3) I found Wundt’s system of Voluntarism to be interesting as it reflected the active nature of the mind. A central concept of the voluntaristic system was the phenomenon of apperception in which it was a process that actively and vigorously organizes information into meaningful wholes. For example I learned that we see the word dog. We don’t perceive three separate letters; we perceive a single concept that gives meaning to us as an individual. Our visual process may be full of meaningless lines and symbols but our mind creates a meaningful whole. This concept is interesting because we have a mental framework for everything in our minds. Words are perceived as images and experiences while random letters don’t let us connect any real meaning to something.
4) I found the jnd or “just noticeable difference” to be sort of a boring concept and uninteresting. I guess at the time it was interesting to know the thresholds of individuals and when they perceive a change in weight and size. I guess I found other subjects more interesting to read about rather than Weber’s law in general. Although, I will note that it was a great contribution to psychology but just didn’t strike me personally as being interesting. I understand that these events made great contributions to our current knowledge in the field but I think the writing about it could have been done a little better so it would catch the reader’s attention.
5) I thought that the background information on psychophysics will help in the long run understand psychology as whole. I also think that knowing the contributions of researchers such as Wundt, Muller, and Kulpe, will also help me understand the history of psychology. I think that Wundt had the most impact on modern psychology as he formed what it is today. His experimental laboratory gave others hope in the field and causes others do follow him and his research studies in the conscious. Although, ever researcher deserves credit for their accomplishments, I think Wundt set the stage into the psychology that we have present day.
6) I did notice that experimental psychology was mentioned in this chapter and I related that to the previous chapter that discussed about Ivan Pavlov and his experiment with the salivating dog. I think we will see this experiment a lot in our book because it also has to do with reflex which was also covered in this chapter and in the previous chapter. Another key concept is reaction time in which the dog produced saliva after hearing the bell. This concept of reaction time is discussed in this chapter but also builds on other chapters as well.
7) I would like to learn more about Muller’s memory drum and how the invention changed the way we understand stimuli in our environment. I would also like to learn similar inventions to this one and how he came about developing this invention. I would also like to know how he came about this idea. Who was developing something similar at this time? How big of a contribution did this invention make? I hope to learn more about the history of this invention and why it survived up until the 1990s.
8) I thought about Wilhelm Wundt and why he was considered the father of psychology in a sense. I remember learning in high school that he was considered the father of it all. After reading the chapter, I now know of the types of research that Wundt conducted such as some dealing with the conscious experience. He is regarded as the first to have his own experimental laboratory and also the first journal that described scientific research. I went from knowing hardly anything about this man to a key understanding to his contributions in the field of psychology. Through my reading, I was able to relate past and post knowledge of Wundt’s scientific achievements.
9) Memory drum, voluntarism, apperception, personal equation, mental chronometry, subtractive method, absolute thresholds, difference thresholds, Weber’s law, two-point threshold.
1a) What did you find interesting?
Education in Germany
1b) Why was it interesting to you?
I found it very interesting that in a 100 year span at least 9000 American students who enrolled at a university in Germany, usually for a medical field would later change to psychology after studying there. I actually lived in Germany for a few years so I know the Germans are a very proud people and it does not surprise me some of the leading researchers in many scientific fields came from this area.
2a) What did you find interesting?
German philosophy known as wissenschaft.
2b) Why was it interesting to you?
I found this interesting because it roughly translates into “scientific”, and this philosophy encouraged scholars and researchers to take a scientific approach to examinations of nature and to take chances. The professors and researchers were given freedom to pursue and research areas of interest without the fear of the administration coming down on them.
3a) What did you find interesting?
Ernst Weber
3b) Why was it interesting to you?
Weber was a brilliant man who studied and taught at one of the most prestigious universities in Germany, the University of Leipzig. One of his most well-known studies is one that can be conducted very easily, this is the two-point threshold. You can simply touch your skin in two places and slowly close the distance until you can only feel one sensation.
4a) What one (1) thing did you find the least interesting?
James McKeen Cattell
4b) Why wasn't it interesting to you?
The only part about his section that was interesting to me was that he was the first American to earn a PhD under Wundt, but it just seemed like that was his only claim to fame.
5) What did you read in the chapter that you think will be most useful to in understanding the history of psychology?
I think just reading and learning about all the brilliant German and European researchers and scholars helps to understand where and when all of these studies came from. Many of the most influential people in psychology and physiology were all working in the same area around the same time and gave us many much of the ground work we still use today.
6) How, in what ways, does this chapter relate (build on) to the previous chapters?
This chapter elaborates more on some of the researchers and scholars from the previous chapters like Johannes Muller, but it also builds on those men and their work by speaking about many of the other influential men in Germany and psychology.
7a) What topic would you like to learn more about?
Wilhelm Wundt
7b) Why?
Although he was covered quite a bit in this chapter it was for a good reason. Wundt was the founder of experimental psychology but also studied with and taught some of the greatest names in psychology and physiology.
8) What ideas related to what you were reading (what did you think about) did you have while reading the chapter?
I spent almost 2 years in Germany while I was in the army and while reading about all these German scholars I got a little sense of nostalgia. Reading about all these men also made me wonder how different my education would have been had I spent a year or more abroad.
Terms: wissenschaft, psychophysics, two-point threshold
Chapter 4
1)What did you find interesting? Why?
I read about Ernst Weber and his two point threshold. I found it interesting in a way. The point where the perception changes from feeling “one” point to feeling “two,” is known as the two-point threshold. Weber found that for skin areas of great sensitivity, like the thumb, the threshold is small. Thee points didn’t have to be very far apart before being noticed as two distinct points rather than one. Areas with less sensitivity, like the arm, must be placed further apart to be perceived as two separate points. He believed that the different points resulted from differences in sizes fo what he called “sensory circles.” These were areas of the skin that were sensed by the branching fibers of a single sensory nerve.
2)What did you find interesting? Why?
I also read about Weber’s law and his interest in “muscle sense.” I found it interesting that this was later found and called kinesthesis, or the ability to feel movements in the body and limbs. He wanted to know how important this was when it came to making judgments about weights of objects. Weber believed that as the standard stimulus became heavier, a greater difference between the weights was necessary before the difference was noticed. In other words, subjects would know the difference between thirty and thirty-three grams, but not between one hundred and one hundred and five.
3)What did you find interesting? Why?
I found Oswald Kulpe and the Wurzburg School to be interesting, especially when it talked about the mental set and imageless thought. I found it
4)What one (1) thing did you find the least interesting? Why?
I did not think the part about Gustav Fechner was very interesting. He just did not grab my attention like the other parts did. The chapter is dry and really needs something to pop out and interest you in order for me to want to read and get more in depth with it.
5)What did you read in the chapter that you think will be most useful to in understanding the history of psychology?
I thought that it is all useful to the history of psychology, even the parts that I did not like hold merit and show that without the start or their thought process, we would not be where we are now in psychology. We might not have Weber’s Law or Fenchner’s Elements without these psychologists sitting down and wondering to themselves, “What would it be like if…” or “What would happen if…” We owe all of our success and progress to the people at the beginning.
6)How, in what ways, does this chapter relate (build on) to the previous chapters?
This chapter builds on year to year. Locke and Berkely were not the only ones discovering new things, but that others were also trying to answer questions that had not been thought of yet.
7)What topic would you like to learn more about? Why?
I would like to learn more about Weber and his thoughts and theories and how they came about.
8)What ideas related to what you were reading (what did you think about) did you have while reading the chapter?
While reading this chapter I was wondering what it would be like to discover something, or be the first to ask a question. Not only ask the question that has never been asked, but be the one to solve that question. Be the one to discover something new.
9)Terminology: Two-Point Threshold, Weber’s Law, Ernst Weber, Sensory Circles, Muscle Sense, Oswald Kulpe, Wurzburg School, Mental Set, Imageless Thought Fenchner’s Elements.
1a) What did you find interesting?
1b) Why was it interesting to you?
One thing that I found to be interesting was the method of limit that Fechner established in his laboratory. Basically what the method of limit means is hearing tests that use ascending and descending trials (raising and lowering stimulus) and is recorded what the listener is able to hear. This is the test that is mainly used today, however there are the Method of Constant Stimuli (varying intensities at random times) and Method of Adjustment (varied intensities until there is a threshold). I found this to be interesting because I remember having these done when I was in middle school and high school and could relate and know what the chapter was talking about. I think this was good to know because it allows doctors to know how deaf someone is, and if they are needing hearing assistance or aids. It was also interesting to read about the other two methods because I only thought there was one, it was intriguing to read and compare all three and be able to relate them to myself. I find this theory to still be useful today.
2a) What did you find interesting?
2b) Why was it interesting to you?
I found it to be interesting to learn about the new science from Wundt and bringing the laboratory studies into studying psychology. Although with his studies there were still two different programs associated with new psychology: “immediate” conscious experience (using the Laboratory for experimenting) and higher mental processes (not using the laboratory). I found this to be interesting not that he had the idea of having experiments in the laboratory and having others build off of this idea, but I was astonished that up until Wundt’s time period laboratories were not of an interest to psychologists. I think that laboratories are essential in some cases where the variables need to be in a certain environment to have studies done correctly, but not every experiment does need a laboratory as which is mentioned with the higher mental processes. I do think that the idea of the laboratory in psychology was a huge stepping stone for psychologists and even with Wundt’s new psychology I believe his most important contribution was the experimenting psychology in physiology laboratories.
3a) What did you find interesting?
3b) Why was it interesting to you?
Another thing that I found to be interesting was a few ideas that Ernst Weber brought to the field. The most interesting thing was Weber’s Law which stated that first in order for the experiment to work the weight had to be lifted (kinesthesis) instead of just held in the hands. Also weights that weighed less were able to be felt a difference at a smaller difference amount rather than much larger weight (33 g – 30 g and 63 g and 60 g). This was a good contribution because I feel that we all already know Weber’s Law by just lifting anything, but to be able to put into factor with heavier weights not feeling more different than lighter weights and how we notice more of a difference by lifting the weight instead of just holding it is not what much people notice when they apply this law to the things that they do. I also liked the two-point threshold. I have noticed this when I would poke myself and feel the tension in my nerves, but I did not think that certain areas of the body were more sensitive to pick up two thresholds more than other areas of the body. I think that was amusing to think that getting poked on the arm you would be able to feel both needles opposed to getting poked in the palm. I think this also ties in with Weber’s law because of talking about the different variables and how the same controls can come up with different results (heavier and lighter weight/ hand sensitivity and arm sensitivity).
4a) What one (1) thing did you find the least interesting?
4b) Why wasn't it interesting to you?
The thing that I found to be the least interesting was Hermann Ebbinghaus and the nonsense syllables and serial learning. I thought this was not interesting because the experiment had to do with memorizing, but it did not have to do with memorizing anything useful just a bunch of random syllables and differing in length. I think that most people would come to the conclusion that more syllables would be harder to memorize, which also is a reason why I found it to be overall not interesting. Although, even though the whole experiment was not interesting to me, I did find the magic number seven to be interesting and something that I did not know. Also, it can help with studying by picking seven items and studying them. It is an idea worth trying, but if the study were to be more aimed towards ecological memory I think that I would have been more interested to the topic because it would be something that I would want to know due to I am not going to memorize random syllables.
5) What did you read in the chapter that you think will be most useful to in understanding the history of psychology?
I think that the most useful thing in this chapter was learning about the laboratories and William Wundt. This is useful because it obviously showed that there were not always laboratories to do psychological research in, but also now that there are laboratories they do not need to be used for every experiment. Sometimes it is better to do experiments in the habitat of the thing that is being experimented on. This is so you get natural results and not any that are biased due to changing the habitat and environment.
6) How, in what ways, does this chapter relate (build on) to the previous chapters?
This chapter is taking the other chapters and building off of them by bringing in the Wundtian Legacy and taking what he brought to the study of psychology with laboratories and the approaches of “immediate” conscious experience, and higher mental process. An example that this would be tied to and that it build off of is the Lashley experiment with the rats and the mazes. He wanted a controlled experiment examining what would happen to the rats if certain amount of the cortex were to be missing. This ties into with what Wundt brought to psychology because it would be able to be a more controlled experiment in a lab with lab equipment, also it now has a field name which it did not before, “immediate” conscious experience, which just helps build on the field making the experiments more controlled and aimed towards what the psychologists wants to know.
7a) What topic would you like to learn more about?
7b) Why?
I would like to know more about the mental chronometry (reaction time). I found this to be interesting and a topic that I would like to know more about due the section about Cattell and Berger. They were the ones that did the experiment with 8 different light intensities and came to a conclusion that the higher light intensity the faster the reaction time. I thought this was interesting and something that I can do research to build off of it because there is other factors that go into reaction time, some examples are temperature, noise in the room, how awake one is, ect. I would like to know what other experiments have been done with reaction time and what the results were, especially for reaction time in warm rooms vs. reaction time in chilly rooms.
8) What ideas related to what you were reading (what did you think about) did you have while reading the chapter?
A question that I had is when the chapter was talking about how some of these psychologists were important not because they had the conclusion to the idea that they brought to the field, but they were important because they brought the idea to the field for others to contribute and help with research. I would want to question is how is a new idea determined? What I mean is things can merge into each other and almost seem like the same idea, but where is the line and who determines it? Is there somewhere that states that there are psychologists that are founders to a certain idea, or is it up to the reader and the researcher to decided what they feel like is a new idea and what is just building off of others?
9) Once you are done with your post make list of the terms and terminology you used in your post.
Wundt, Fechner, new psychology, physiology laboratories, “immediate” conscious experience, higher mental process, method of limits, method of constant stimuli, method of adjustment, Ernst Weber, Two-Point Thresholds, Weber’s Law, Cattell, Berger, mental chronometry
1a) What did you find interesting?
Psychophysics
1b) Why was it interesting to you?
Some of the testing and ideas drawn from psychophysics was interesting to me. Especially the vision and hearing tests because they are still used today, I did not realize that these tests had a psychological background to them. I also did not know that there were so many different methods within hearing and vision tests such as method of constant stimuli, method of limits, and method of adjustment.
2a) What did you find interesting?
Mental Chronometry
2b) Why was it interesting to you?
I found this interesting because I really enjoy anatomy and physiology and this section was dealing with nerve impulses and reaction time. Reading about the different experiments they used to research this idea was fascinating to me.
3a) What did you find interesting?
Hermann Ebbinghaus study of memory
3b) Why was it interesting to you?
I liked this section because I have always found memory to be incredibly interesting, primarily because my second major is criminology and I think that it’s interesting. Especially because the human memory is so flawed.
4a) What one (1) thing did you find the least interesting?
Two-point threshold
4b) Why wasn't it interesting to you?
I honestly didn’t find any of the sections pertaining to Ernst Weber to be interesting. I thought they were dry and I kept finding myself thinking of other things while reading.
5) What did you read in the chapter that you think will be most useful to in understanding the history of psychology?
I don’t think that one thing can be chosen; it all helps give a better understanding on what psychology was in the past. And with that idea put things into context now.
6) How, in what ways, does this chapter relate (build on) to the previous chapters?
This chapter builds onto the last chapter by following on and giving us a better understanding of the history of psychology. Learning how things moved in a sequence helps to better understand where we are today.
7a) What topic would you like to learn more about?
Study of memory
7b) Why?
I would like to learn more about this because it was an interest of mine prior to this class and I enjoy learning about it.
8) What ideas related to what you were reading (what did you think about) did you have while reading the chapter?
There was just some cross over between things I had learned in previous classes such as sensation and perception. There were also some things that I had heard about but now have a better understanding of because I know the history behind it such as psychophysics.
9) Once you are done with your post make list of the terms and terminology you used in your post.
Method of limits, method of stimuli, method of adjustment, psychophysics, Ernst Weber, Two-point threshold, mental chronometry, Herman Ebbinghaus, Study of memory
1a) What did you find interesting? b) Why was it interesting to you?
One thing that I found interesting was Ernest Weber. He was interested in vision and hearing. I am interesting in Ernest Weber because he made two major contributions to psychology. One thing he contributed was his ideas surrounding sensitivity of the skin in different areas. The second thing he contributed was his mathematical standpoint on the relationships between the physical and psychological. This is known as the Weber law.
2a) What did you find interesting? b) Why was it interesting to you?
I thought it was interesting how most of the chapter discussed Wilhelm Wundt. I thought this was interesting because I have never heard of him before and hearing about his discoveries made me want to learn more about him. I thought he was interesting because he is the founder of experimental psychology. As well as, Wundt was the first to have controlled research laboratories for his studies.
3a) What did you find interesting? b) Why was it interesting to you?
One thing I found interesting was Psychophysics. I found this concept interesting because the idea originated with Ernest Weber and later became better familiar with Gustav Fechner. Psychophysics is defined as the study of the connection between perception of a stimulus and the physical size of the stimulus being perceived. The idea of psychophysics sparked Weber’s idea of Weber’s Law.
4a) What one (1) thing did you find the least interesting? b) Why wasn't it interesting to you?
One thing I did not find interesting was Two-point threshold. I didn’t find his interesting because I didn’t understand the concept fully. It was hard to follow what the text was trying to say when it was explaining it. It was hard to be interested in Two-point threshold because I didn’t understand what the textbook was trying to say.
5) What did you read in the chapter that you think will be most useful to in understanding the history of psychology?
I think reading about Ernst Weber and his ideas surrounding Psychophysics will be the most useful to my understanding of the history of psychology. I think that Ernst Weber and his ideas will help my understanding of the history of psychology because he was the first to discover Psychophysics. He also had two major contributions to vision and hearing in his time. Without Weber’s contributions where would we be today?
6) How, in what ways, does this chapter relate (build on) to the previous chapters?
This Chapter has build on other chapters because history is consistently being built on. For example, Wundt’s ideas have been built on in the last 30 years. Without his original ideas we wouldn’t be where we are today. This chapter built off of the other chapters previously discussed because senses were talked about in reference to vision and hearing. As well as vision and hearing, this chapter discussed perception and the different experiments done with the idea of perception and how people perceive different senses.
7a) What topic would you like to learn more about? b) Why?
I would like to learn more about Ebbinghaus’s memory project and his ideas on memory. As well as his ideas on memory, I would like to learn more about remote associations and memory because I think memory is fascinating. I think I could learn a lot of memory and association from Ebbinghaus and his memory project.
8) What ideas related to what you were reading (what did you think about) did you have while reading the chapter?
I thought about how much history are ideas that have been built on each other. Where will we be in 50 years? How much will have changed? Will they look back and ask themselves what we were thinking? Will technology be anymore advanced as it is now? Or will it be at a standstill? How much does the history of psychology affect our psychology now? Where would we be without Wundt and his ideas?
9) Once you are done with your post make list of the terms and terminology you used in your post.
Terms: Wilhelm Wundt, remote association, Ebbinghaus, memory project, vision and hearing, perception, Ernst Weber, Gustav Fechner, Psychophysics, experimental psychology, two-point threshold, and Weber’s law
Please read chapter 4. After reading the chapter, please respond to the following questions:
Next you will be asked what three things from the chapter that you found interesting?
1a) What did you find interesting?
1b) Why was it interesting to you?
I thought that imageless thought was interesting because it means that you can do something without having your mind create an image of it. It created a controversy between Kulpe and Titchener, which eventually led to questions about introspection and led to behaviorism.
2a) What did you find interesting?
2b) Why was it interesting to you?
Ebbinghaus' work with memory is interesting to me. I think it is unique that he used CVC's or nonsense syllables. He created quite a few of them which is interesting because it is a lot of work to even be able to do research about memory. He recognized that since people already associated words or rhymes already have associations for most people, he would have to create something entirely new. He used serial learning and created strings of nonsense syllables and try to memorize them without using mnemonics.
3a) What did you find interesting?
3b) Why was it interesting to you?
I think apperception is an interesting concept. It is the concept of perceiving something with clarity and to be focused on it—essentially concentrating. I don't understand why it requires a different word than “concentration” because from the description in the textbook, it seems to be the same thing. Wundt was focused on voluntarism and in order to describe this he used the term apperceive.
4a) What one (1) thing did you find the least interesting?
4b) Why wasn't it interesting to you?
I found the whole chapter somewhat uninteresting, especially the first half. It seemed like very dry material . The sensation and perception information was uninteresting, especially the mental chronometry, personal equation, and subtrative method. I understand the basic concept and the related equations. They were just uninteresting to me.
I found the close-up about James McKeen Cattel interesting. First of all, he was the first American to study under Wundt and to earn a Ph.D. I think it is interesting that he kept such detailed records, both personally and in his work. It seems somewhat meticulous to me—was this a personality trait of his or did he learn it from doing research? It is also interesting that he was in such close contact with his parents, even while living in Germany.
5) What did you read in the chapter that you think will be most useful to in understanding the history of psychology?
I think it is important to know about the beginnings of experimental psychology and it's founder, Wilhelm Wundt. Since this is still a type of psychology we use and learn about now, it is important to know about it's origins, how it started, and why. With that same mindset, learning about psychophysics and Fechner as it's founder is important to understand the background.
6) How, in what ways, does this chapter relate (build on) to the previous chapters?
This chapter continues to talk about various important figures in the history of psychology. In the last chapter, we learned what “ablation” was, which we needed to know in order to understand Wundt's methods in researching the cranial nerves.
7a) What topic would you like to learn more about?
7b) Why?
I would be interested in learning about Wissenschaft. It is an interesting concept, one that I never had heard of before. I did not know it existed and wondered if it had been replicated in any other areas at another time period.
8) What ideas related to what you were reading (what did you think about) did you have while reading the chapter?
I wondered about wissenschaft—how did this idea of wandering from school to school start? Was it an effective method? Has it happened before or since? I also remembered learning about sensation and perception (the basic concepts, not all of the theory) in a different psychology class.
9) Once you are done with your post make list of the terms and terminology you used in your post.
Voluntarism, apperception, nonsense syllables, serial learning, wissenschaft, sensation, perception, mental chronometry, personal equation, subtraction method
1a) What did you find interesting?
I actually found Weber’s law to be fairly interesting
1b) Why was it interesting to you?
It was interesting to me, because he wanted to verify psychology as a science, so he figured out a way to do so and then he did it. He understood that science needs to have something to be measured, so he looked at threshold research. In doing so, he also showed that physical and psychological events can be related mathematically, which is pretty cool in itself.
2a) What did you find interesting?
I was kind of interested in the way they measured reaction time.
2b) Why was it interesting to you?
It was interesting because they tried to set up experiments and methods to account for everything, but this is before any other experiments of this type, so it was incredibly hard to structure an experiment that could record reaction times correctly. You can see they tried to set everything up correctly by factoring in discrimination time, and choice time. They had perfectly good reason to believe in the subtractive method where you could just subtract the time of making the decision to find the simple reaction time. It was also interesting to read the alterations they made to try to avoid over simplistic thinking and more empirically record reaction times.
3a) What did you find interesting?
The Wurzburg research was pretty interesting.
3b) Why was it interesting to you?
I liked reading about mental sets and how that would completely change the way people would think about reaction times. I was more interested in reading about imageless thought. This was fascinating because Titchener thought everything could be broken down into basic elements, but this concept of imageless thought kind of shattered his views. I also thought it was neat seeing how this was brought up and how it would play into behaviorism.
4a) What one (1) thing did you find the least interesting?
Everything is interesting if it can be related to the particular topic that I’m interested in, but I was least interested by the history and dates between all of the schools of thought and experiments.
4b) Why wasn't it interesting to you?
It just wasn’t too interesting to read about why people came to study elsewhere or how many people chose to do so. I’m more interested in what they went there to study.
5) What did you read in the chapter that you think will be most useful to in understanding the history of psychology?
I think reading about imageless thoughts and their paving the way for behaviorism might actually be the most useful to my understanding of the history of psychology. I was able to understand the initial confusion of the time and I can do my best to imagine how behaviorism managed to step in and offer a solution. I just thought it was neat seeing the foundation for an entire school of thought.
6) How, in what ways, does this chapter relate (build on) to the previous chapters?
We looked more into reaction time, which kind of builds off of the reflexes that we’ve looked at for the past two chapters. I also got to see more about people studying similar things at similar times. Wundt and Kulpe differed in perspective and that set a fork for two different schools of thought. The way people disagree and build off each other due to the way of thinking in the time is related back to the zeitgeist.
7a) What topic would you like to learn more about?
I guess I’d like to know a little more about Weber’s law.
7b) Why?
I just think it’s one of the more interesting things in the chapter. I would like to know a little more about the state of mind he was in when he decided to go about researching it and what influenced this thought process along the way.
8) What ideas related to what you were reading (what did you think about) did you have while reading the chapter?
I was thinking about what issue it is that I would be so interested in in the future that I would want to research it for graduate school. I wonder if I will have a field that I make actual contributions to.
9) Once you are done with your post make list of the terms and terminology you used in your post.
Weber’s law, subtractive method, discrimination time, choice time, simple reaction time, imageless thought, Wurzburg research, behaviorism, zeitgeist
1) I found Weber's experimentation with psychophysics fun to read about. The two-point threshold experiments were particularly interesting to read about. Furthermore, the development of Weber's law helped to establish that sensing the difference in weight, known as the "just noticeable difference" was relative and dependent upon the amount of total weight. Thus, one could easily notice a difference between 1 and 2 pounds, but not necessarily between 60 and 61 pounds.
2) Wundt's chronometry experiments were interesting to read about. They studied the amount of time it took participants to react to the change in lights and take the appropriate action. They developed equations such as the personal equation and subtractive method to try to determine the average reaction time, but was later found to be flawed. Nevertheless, these experiments helped to further understanding of the brain's capabilities to process and differentiate responses.
3) The vast amount of time Ebbighaus spent on studying memory was astounding. Though seemingly pointless because of the common knowledge that it takes longer to memorize a longer series of numbers or letters, he was the first to calculate and measure the differences. This attributed to better understanding how we can retain memory, via grouping or chunking groups of letters or numbers and making associations. Furthermore, he displayed the forgetting curve, how much information we tend to forget over time.
4a) What one (1) thing did you find the least interesting?
4b) Why wasn't it interesting to you?
The differences between introspection and internal perception were a bit over my head. I see the point that internal perception is an immediate response, and internal perception involves reflection, but the book went into more detail that just confused me more.
5) What did you read in the chapter that you think will be most useful to you in understanding the history of psychology?
I think the introduction to psychophysics greater helps us understand the differences between sensation and perception. Our mind is actively responding and perceiving everything around us. Finding out how we respond and why are fascinating questions that help us better understand the human mind and body and how they work together.
6) How, in what ways, does this chapter relate (build on) to the previous chapters?
This chapter builds onto previous theories and experiments done to show the relationship between perception and reaction, developing psychology into a hybrid science between philosophy, physics, and anatomy.
7a) What topic would you like to learn more about?
7b) Why?
I'd like to learn more about serial learning and the best strategies for memorizing material, because this would be helpful for classes. Though Ebbinghaus chose meaningless serials, the concept is still the same: memorizing vast amounts of information through repetition. I want to learn how best to apply association with content.
8) What ideas related to what you were reading (what did you think about) did you have while reading the chapter?
One thing that amazed me was how much time these psychologists spent carrying out these tedious, extensive experiments. They must have been extremely passionate and curious about their studies to devote sometimes dozens of years to their work. I couldn't help but wonder if they felt they had spent too much time on this and not enough simply living.
9) Weber, psychophysics, reaction time, two-point threshold, Weber's law, jnd., Wundt, introspection, internal perception, mental chronometry, personal equation, subtractive method, Ebbinhaus, serial learning.
1a) I found the topic concerning Weber’s findings of the two-point threshold to be interesting from this chapter.
1b) This topic was interesting first because of its simplicity and easiness to understand. There weren’t difficult definitions to understand before being able to relate to the topic. Second, it was interesting to read about because the human body’s ability to sense and perceive things is just amazing. I found it interesting that the sensitivity of the human are increases the closer to the fingers you go. This is for obvious reasons of course, the finger tips are used for so many intricate tasks. They need to be the most sensitive. We wouldn’t be able to use touch-screens on our phones if the sensitivity of our fingers was that of what our upper arm is.
2a) The second thing I found interesting, again had to do with a contribution of Weber to the research field. Weber’s law states that as an object becomes heavier, the difference between it and the comparison weight must be greater in order to tell the difference between them.
2b) The reason why this law dealing with kinesthesis was interesting to me had to do with how we as humans are not very accurate in determining things. We have this notion that we are fairly intelligent. I would agree to some extent. However, there are shortcomings to our abilities. I just think its crazy that we have advanced as a species to the point where we have discovered crazy findings, we can perform the most intricate surgeries, yet our senses are not accurate enough to make an accurate judgment of the weight we hold in both hands.
3a) The third thing I found of interesting in this chapter has to do with mental sets and imageless thought. These concepts were presented by Wurzburg.
3b) The reason I think these concepts are so interesting is because the researchers of the time were trying to answer some of the same questions that we are still trying to answer today. The idea that the reaction time to different thoughts is determined by mental sets. Basically if an idea or concept is presented to an individual, the reaction time to the same scenario will be quicker in the future because they are already familiar with it. The second concept behind Wurzburg’s ideas was the thought that behind every mental process is an image of some form. The chapter explained it as the idea that if someone lifted an object, the next time they lift a different object they would know roughly how heavy it was because they compared it to the mental image they had of the last object they picked up. The chapter states that this concept was very controversial, and for good reason. However, it was still interesting to see how far we’ve come in the study of the human perception and reaction to outside stimuli.
4a) Learning about Wundt’s ideas of introspection and internal perception were not overly fun to read about.
4b) I guess reading about the methods he used to try and measure these two concepts was pretty dry. There was just too many other interesting topics in the chapter that caught my eye as I read.
5) To be honest, Wundt’s ideas and methods to measuring reaction times etc. will probably be the most important concept to understanding the history of psychology from this chapter. While in the previous question I stated how dry it was to read, doesn’t mean that it is not important. We still study this subject today. Understanding how the ideas of this topic were researched early on and how the studies were conducted is definitely important to modern psychology.
6) It builds off of previous chapters because it talked about topics that built of previous ones already talked about. We learned about nerves and which parts of the brain control which functions before we started talking about concepts of reaction time to certain stimuli. Also, the chapters continue to build off of each other in a chronological ways as well.
7a) I would be interested to learn more about Ebbinghaus’ idea of serial learning.
7b) I have no in depth reason for wanting to learn more about this topic except for the fact that it seemed a little absurd. This type of ‘out-there’ ideas would be fun to learn about just to see what those who came up with such ideas were thinking at the time.
8) I really thought a lot about how are reactions to different scenarios can be effected by so many different factors. I have very limited knowledge on the subject, however I think it would have been a great time of life to be a researcher on this idea during the time period that was discussed in this chapter. It was the big subject of the day. How neat it would have been to contribute to their ideas and concepts. Also, I thought of where we are at today in studying perception and reaction times. The technology we have to measure this is so much more advanced than they had at the time of their research.
9) Terms: two-point threshold, intricate, Weber’s law, kinesthesis, mental sets, imageless thought, controversial, stimuli, internal perception, introspection, chronological, serial learning.
1a) What did you find interesting?
1b) Why was it interesting to you?
I thought Gustav Fechner to be an interesting person. His life story is in many ways just as intriguing as his research. When studying visual images he severely damaged his own eyes while conducting an experiment where he was looking into the sun. He became an invalid and depression kicked in. I think most people would have given up at this point, but thanks to his eyes improving he was able to go on to further research Ernst Weber work and conceived the notion of absolute threshold and difference threshold. Although his work is important I believe his will to live after his blindness was just as important and defined who he was.
2a) What did you find interesting?
2b) Why was it interesting to you?
I found the American students coming to Germany to study to be interesting; over nine thousand students during a hundred year period with thirty six of them completing doctorates under the teaching of Wilhelm Wundt. His first lab assistant was an American. Germany had many universities since it was more like a lot of individual states for a long time until it became a country. This got me thinking about what was to come in Germany. They had these great minds and universities in which students around the world came to study. In short order, political and military chaos came to Germany, and many of these scientists fled the country.
3a) What did you find interesting?
3b) Why was it interesting to you?
I found Wilhelm Wundt interesting if for no other reason, than half the chapter being devoted to him. To be the founder of experimental Psychology and to have set up the first experimental lab is an important step for the field. Wundt’s contribution included two major programs; using experimental methods to test the immediate conscious and studying higher mental processes by non-laboratory means. In the 1970’s, scientists started to reexamine some of Wundt’s work. This proves how his work and contributions stood the test of time.
4a) What didn’t you find interesting?
4b) Why wasn't it interesting to you?
There is really not one thing I can point to and say I was not interested in it. I would say the whole chapter in general was slightly boring. I had a tough time picking out three things that I thought were truly interesting to me. If I had to pick out one thing that was the most uninteresting it would be Ernst Weber and Weber’s Law. The whole feeling the difference between weights was fairly mind-numbing.
5) What did you read in the chapter that you think will be most useful to in understanding the history of psychology?
I think Wilhelm Wundt is the useful person in this chapter when it comes to understanding the history of psychology. He is the scientist who started experimenting in a lab room. It will be interesting to see what further influences he has on future psychologists, those practicing, and those conducting research.
6) How, in what ways, does this chapter relate (build on) to the previous chapters?
I feel in this chapter we are getting to the point where we can now call some of the scientists psychologists, or at least they are researching in the field of psychology. Up to this point, the scientists studying the psychology field were in different fields and just happened to be doing research in a field that would become psychology.
7a) What topic would you like to learn more about?
7b) Why?
I would like to know more about why Germany became the cool place to study for so many students. I also would like to know how what we are learning now about German scientists relates to the rise of Hitler and the exodus of so many top German scientists to other countries. In some ways, the German scientists seemed to be ahead of the Americans. I would like to know if this was true or if it was just in making weapons that they were advanced.
8) What ideas related to what you were reading (what did you think about) did you have while reading the chapter?
A couple of things I was thinking about when reading this chapter was how difficult it must have been for American students to travel to Germany to study. To me this puts a huge value on the education in Germany. It must have taken a long time to get there and I imagine it was not easy. Another thing I was thinking about the early education of Wilhelm Wundt. He is described as having dismal academic records and only got into college because of his family knowing the right people. We see this in other scientists who do not have success growing up in school but once out on their own, start to flourish.
9) Once you are done with your post make list of the terms and terminology you used in your post.
• Gustav Fechner
• Ernst Weber
• Wilhelm Wundt
• Weber’s Law
• Absolute threshold
• Difference threshold
1a) What did you find interesting?
1b) Why was it interesting to you?
The first topic that I read about in this chapter that I found interesting was the topic on psychophysics. Psychophysics is the study of the relationship between the perception of a stimulus event and the physical dimensions of the stimulus being perceived. In easier terms, psychophysics is basically the study of how we think something is going to feel versus how it actually does feel. I find this topic to be interesting because it combines a lot of elements from psychology along with some from physiology. It is very easy to relate to this type of event because everyone has had those moments where something happens and we think “that’s it? I thought it was going to hurt more than that.” I know from experience that one time a trainer cut off some of my skin on the back of my knee while he was trying to take tape off. During the moment I wasn’t in a huge amount of pain, but thinking back on it, I sometimes wonder why because I think that it would hurt so much more than it did. Sometimes we think something will feel worse than what it actually does. I think that this type of idea also works with other feelings such as joy. I know there are times when I also think “I thought that was going to be more fun, or feel better, that what it did.” These types of examples make psychophysics sound very interesting to me and I would be curious to learn more about it.
2a) What did you find interesting?
2b) Why was it interesting to you?
The second tope in this chapter than I found interesting was Ernst Weber. Ernst Weber was a physiologist that made important contributions to the growing fields of psychophysics, psychology, and physiology. Not only did Ernst Weber interest me, but his work and his findings did too. Weber made two very important discoveries; both of which caught my attention and are also important findings for his time period. The first of these findings is called the two-point threshold. This discovery showed where, on the human body, perception changes from feeling “one” point to being able to feel “two” distinct points. I thought this finding was so interesting to think about because it shows where the sensitive places on a human body are. I also thought this was cool because it’s something everyone can test out by themselves if they are bored, but seeing if they can feel two close points on their arm. The second interesting discovery that Weber made was his own law. In this law, Weber focused on the human muscles, using what we call kinesthesis today. (I also find it interesting learning about the ideas that were discovered back then, that we still use today, and how these geniuses came up with them.) Weber’s law deals with thresholds and the extent to which human muscles can sense a difference in weight, or other stimulus. I thought this was interesting because I have always thought that the human body was fun to learn about and now being able to compare it to psychology and how we react to different types of stimulus and the levels we react at is really relatable to what I enjoy learning about.
3a) What did you find interesting?
3b) Why was it interesting to you?
The third topic that I found interesting to learn about in this chapter was James McKeen Cattell. James Cattell caught my attention in this chapter because the chapter was mainly about the influence German psychologists had on the history and science of psychology, but Cattell was American. I think that it definitely shows how much of an impact Cattell made to get a special mention in this chapter. Cattell started his career in America, before going overseas to study in Germany. He was the first American to earn a PhD from Leipzig in experimental psychology. Cattell worked mainly with reaction time, which I also find to be an interesting subject. I thought it was funny how, in the chapter, it showed sections from letters Cattell wrote to his parents. These letters contained writings that Cattell hoped would convince his parents that the work he was doing was important. I find this funny because I feel that every child wants their parents to be proud of the work they do and see the importance of what they are doing, and this is the same for even the most prestigious of psychologists. He also tried to make his parents worry less by trying to convince them that only a few hours of the day in his lab were spent working on things that would be making him tired or stressed. This is another thing most all children do, is try to make their parents less worrisome. Overall, I think James Cattell would have been an interesting person to meet and talk to.
4a) What one (1) thing did you find the least interesting?
4b) Why wasn't it interesting to you?
The information I found least interesting in this chapter was about Fechner. For some reason, Gustav Fechner did not capture my attention the way other people, like Weber, Cattell, and Wundt, did throughout this chapter. While reading about Fechner and his work, I could not keep focused. The beginning of the information about him I did not find interesting. I was not interested in his life, and I think that the section about him actually focused more on where he came from rather than what impact he had on psychology. While I did not find the information about any of the men’s schooling interesting in this chapter, I found that the information about Fechner dragged on a little longer than the rest, therefore making his story a little less interesting. I thought that the book could have done a better job of explaining the importance of the work the Fechner did, rather than focus on what school he attended.
5) What did you read in the chapter that you think will be most useful to in understanding the history of psychology?
Throughout the whole chapter, I kept finding pieces of information that I thought would best answer this question. It was then that I realized that all of these pieces that I found most useful to understanding the history of psychology all stemmed from one common person: William Wundt. Now, it makes sense that in the chapter on William Wundt would have the most useful information about the history of psychology related to this man. One of the most important pieces of useful information would have to be that Wundt founded experimental psychology. Without this discovery, psychology would be very different today, if it even still existed. The second thing that is important to understanding the history of psychology, is how much of an influence Wundt had at the level of written work. Wundt wrote 53,735 papers in his lifetime, all of which helped psychology reach where it is at today. Without Wundt writing down these ideas and findings, we would have had a lot less information. Just as important as what Wundt did discover, was what he didn’t, or what he got wrong. Without people challenging Wundt’s ideas and findings, the science of psychology would never have made the progress that it did. If everyone just accepted other people’s ideas, we would never finally end up with the correct information and we would always be thinking the wrong thing, which in the end benefits no one. Therefore, Wundt contributed to psychology also by creating people that thought more about his work and double checked it, either to support it or prove it wrong. I think that this kind of movement is crucial in the history of a science, especially one like psychology.
6) How, in what ways, does this chapter relate (build on) to the previous chapters?
This chapter related to previous chapters that we have read in a couple different ways. The first way is how the chapter deals with physiology. In fact, William Wundt referred to his new psychology as “physiological psychology” instead of “experimental psychology.” This is because much of his work, and others work that dealt with experimental psychology, focused on how the body functions with the mind. Therefore, this chapter also dealt with aspects of philosophy as well. Many of the ideas that were being brought up in the early ages stemmed from philosophical ideas that people wished to experiment with and be able to measure. Another term discussed in this chapter that came from previous ones is the idea of materialism. Like physiology and philosophy, materialism was an idea that sparked a lot of interest in early physiologists/psychologists. Gustav Fechner, in fact, was one man that was set on disproving this theory. The last term related to previous chapters that also related to chapter 4 was Edwin Boring. Edwin Boring made huge strides in the science of psychology, so it was no shock that he is a reoccurring theme in this book.
7a) What topic would you like to learn more about?
7b) Why?
One random topic at the beginning of the chapter interested me enough that I would like to learn more about it. This topic was the German idea of Wissenschaft. In English, this word translates roughly to “scientific,” meaning that a more scientific approach to the approach of the examination of nature. This was encouraged by philosophy for all scholars, including professors being able to pursue their own research without having to go through administration. Along with this idea, students were able to wander from one university to another and earning a degree was the result of defending their research rather than passing specific curriculum. I find this idea to be so cool, because it really promotes learning in a new way. It persuades students to look outside the norm and really expand their way of thinking to discover new things. I agree completely with this style of teaching because I feel like in today’s schools, a lot of the lessons we learn are just to remember information just long enough to spit it back out on the next test. While I believe that a base knowledge is important for everyone to know, I think that challenging people to find out new information is definitely better for the student and also furthers the economy as well. I would be interested to see what counties still carry this Wissenschaft way of teaching, especially in America.
8) What ideas related to what you were reading (what did you think about) did you have while reading the chapter?
There were a couple different things that popped into my head while reading this chapter. I have come to realize, from answering this question for every chapter, that I tend to try to make personal connections to the reading and relate it to myself. This was no different this week. The first topic I thought a little differently about was when it was said that William Wundt published 53,735 pages in his lifetime, which is an average of about 2.2 pages a day. I find this incredible and I starting thinking about how much I have read in a life time and wondering if it would match up to that. Along with that, I also thought about how much I have written and how it would compare. I think it would be interesting to compare different psychologists and how much they have all published. The second thing I thought about was mental chronometry, or reaction time. I have always found reaction time interesting because I am interested in drag racing and seeing how fast some people react to the green light compared to others in fun to watch for me. I remember playing a game when I was younger that would test my reaction time and it was always fun to try to get it better. I think studying people’s reaction times to different stimuli would be a very interesting thing to do. Lastly, I found interesting that made me think of this class was the talk about serial learning and Hermann Ebbinghaus. In this class we are taught not to write our topical blogs in a serial style, so I was thinking about that while reading about Ebbinghaus’s work with serial learning.
Terms: psychophysics, stimulus, perception, Ernst Weber, Weber’s law, two-point threshold, James Cattell, experimental psychology, Gustav Fechner, William Wundt, materialism, philosophy, physiology, materialism, Edwin Boring, Wissenschaft, mental chronometry, serial learning, Hermann Ebbinghaus
1)What did you find interesting and why?
I found the Wissenschaft practice to be very interesting. The way they did school in Germany at that time is so different from our modern conceptualization of college. I think it is great that students could wander from one university to another. Now, that is not ideal and ends up taking the student forever to graduate. I also think that it is neat that to graduate, one had to take certain tests instead of finishing a certain curriculum.
2)What did you find interesting and why?
I found the two point threshold that Weber studied to be really neat. It was kind of a review because I remember experimenting with it in my Anatomy class a couple years ago, but I enjoyed learning more in-depth what it is and how Weber came to stumble upon this phenomenon.
3)What did you find interesting and why?
Although it was a little bit confusing at first, I found the research done by Gustav Fechner to be very important. First, I found his life interesting. He went blind from looking at the sun for too long because of his research on afterimages, which triggered a neurosis. Then, miraculously, his vision came back. That is incredible. I found his research about jnd’s and all of that to be really interesting. It kind of relates to the two point threshold, except this is concerning weight.
4)What did you find least interesting and why?
I found the section about Wundt the least interesting. I was not as interested in his back story as I was for the other scientists highlighted in the chapter. So, reading almost two pages about his life was a little boring.
5)What did you read in the chapter that you think will be most useful to in understanding the history of psychology?
I think Wundt’s studies on the higher mental processes of humans is very important. Although it got to be a little boring for me to read (and that may have been because it was halfway through the chapter and I was ready to be done reading) I think it is very important to understand.
6)How, in what ways, does this chapter relate (build on) to the previous chapters?
This builds on previous chapters because it is giving more details of how Psychology cam to be, and how, even after Psychology became a term, its definition has changed many times.
7)What topic would you like to learn more about and why?
I think I would like to learn more about Fechner and his neurosis that set in after he went blind.
8)What ideas related to what you were reading (what did you think about) did you have while reading the chapter?
I thought Fechner was kind of crazy for staring at the sun for increasingly longer periods of time. It may be because of his research, however, that we now know that staring at the sun is bad.
9)Wissenschaft, two point threshold, Weber, Fechner, afterimages, jnd (just noticeable difference), Wundt
1a) What did you find interesting? Teachings in Germany
1b) Why was it interesting to you? A lot of teachings about psychology come from Germany. I thought it would have come from England like a lot of things do that are about the field of psychology. A lot of the men studying psychology have brought a lot of information to the world of psychology and we have focused a lot of our studies on their findings and what they have contributed.
2a) What did you find interesting? Wundt – Self-observation v. Internal perception
2b) Why was it interesting to you? A question that was brought to my mind while reading this section was how can two words be blurred together when they have only so little in common? This is interesting because self-observation is supposed to be based upon and relied on faulty memory rather than internal perception that is based on narrower processes of the immediate responding of controlled stimuli.
3a) What did you find interesting? The Memory Drum
3b) Why was it interesting to you? The memory drum was quite interesting to me because it is one of the inventions that help us understand more about memory and stimuli. It just caught my attention when reading about Muller. He was one man who did a lot for the field.
4a) What one (1) thing did you find the least interesting? Everything and anything about numbers was quite hard to understand.
4b) Why wasn't it interesting to you? I do not find anything with numbers and formulas easy to understand. I was never a great student in the math subject hence why I am a criminal justice major and not majoring in the math department. When I read about the different laws and I began to see numbers I automatically wanted to skip right over that section because it had no meaning or interest to me and my personal life.
5) What did you read in the chapter that you think will be most useful to in understanding the history of psychology? I think that because the chapter is so focused on the men who gave life to psychology, like Weber and Wundt, will be helpful to me because after reading this I can relate these men to the men and women who study psychology here in America today and it can help me understand where they came from and what their research had done for the advancement of the world of psychology today.
6) How, in what ways, does this chapter relate (build on) to the previous chapters? Chapter four relates to the previous chapters in a few ways. It gives us an insight on more people who have influenced the world of psychology and also has built on the last chapter and introducing new ideas to psychology. This chapter gives us a bigger heads up on the experimental psychology unlike the last chapter.
7a) What topic would you like to learn more about? The Memory Drum
7b) Why? I thought the memory drum was pretty interesting and I would like to learn more about it and how it affected the people using it. It only really talks about what it does, but not how the people reacted to it. So I think that would be an interesting topic to do further research on.
8) What ideas related to what you were reading (what did you think about) did you have while reading the chapter? I really did not have that much going on in my mind while reading this chapter besides, is it over yet? Nothing really sparked my attention and caught my eye; I could not relate any of this to a personal level with myself. It all kind of went through my brain and exited as I saw the words. I do not think a lot stuck in my mind from this chapter.
9) Once you are done with your post make list of the terms and terminology you used in your post.
Self- observation, Internal Perception, Weber, Wundt, Stimuli, Memory Drum
B.H.
1a) What did you find interesting? Studying immediate conscious experience was interesting to me.
1b) Why was it interesting to you? I liked the example relating to Wundt that if you look at the thermometer and it reads 15 degrees F you are not experiencing the phenomenon of temperature directly. Temperature is actually being mediated by a scientific instrument. But if you then step outside without a coat you have a direct experience of coldness. It is an immediate conscious experience. You are experiencing it firsthand. For Wundt, this was subject to laboratory psychology. Wundt went on to explain the difference between self observation and internal perception. This interested me because its kind of hard to distinquish which is more beneficial scientifically. You can use another example of driving a car 130 mph, but would you be able to interally percept that you were going 130 without looking at the dash.
2a) What did you find interesting? Helmholtz’s idea on mental chronometry or what we call it knows a days, reaction time.
2b) Why was it interesting to you? I was interested in reaction time because how do you measure mental speed. Astronomers used tables for calculating longitude, but you had to know precise location of the stars and planets at specific times of the lunar cycle. This process is a very complicated procedure and it to a lot of time for a planet to transit from one side of the crosshair of a telescope to another. To solve a problem each one had to make a personal equation to use and then their times were averaged out to make a rather accurate guess.
3a) What did you find interesting? Ebbinghaus measures on memory.
3b) Why was it interesting to you? This was interested because I wanted to be educated on how many times I should need to memorize something before I forget which is very beneficial being a college student. Obviously it takes more repetitions to learn longer lists, he is one of the firsts to actually show the direct relationship between the length of material to be learned and the amount of effort it takes to learn it. He developed the savings method which enabled him to measure memory after passage of time even if initially norhinf could be recalled after the interval. Therefore creating a logical explanation of time and memory. Hence why you went over the alphabet and numbers over and over in preschool and kindergarten.
4a) What one (1) thing did you find the least interesting? I wasn’t really interested in the ability of the mind to store and organize information.
4b) Why wasn't it interesting to you? The whole process is just boring and doesn’t appeal to me and half of it is probably confusing and hard to understand.
5) What did you read in the chapter that you think will be most useful to in understanding the history of psychology? That a lot of psychology stuff can be swapped out with physiology stuff. Don’t mix up the two but know they both kind of interchange with eachother.
6) How, in what ways, does this chapter relate (build on) to the previous chapters? Historically more students are trying to study abroad to see what the difference of german education and American education is. Students are curious to know if a lot of history has been forgotten or misperceived in a lot of the sciences or just medicine.
7a) What topic would you like to learn more about? Evolution
7b) Why? Because I am still unaware of what evolution all entails. The whole idea just confuses me and I know you said we were going to learn about it eventually.
8) What ideas related to what you were reading (what did you think about) did you have while reading the chapter? I thought about Wundts example of self observation and internal perception. Watching the NFL I want to self observe what it feels like to be tackled by an NFL star but I do not want a chance to internally perceive it because it would hurt really bad.
9) Once you are done with your post make list of the terms and terminology you used in your post. Wundt, self observation, internal perception, studying immediate conscious ecperience, mental chronometry, personal equation, reaction time, Ebbinghaus, experiment study of memory, savings method
Next you will be asked what three things from the chapter that you found interesting?
1a) What did you find interesting?
Growing education in Germany.
1b) Why was it interesting to you?
I thought that this was an interesting section because it taught me something new that I did not know about. During the 19th century, many people flocked to Germany because of the growing education that was going on there and they wanted to be a part of that. There was around a total of 9,000 American students that wanted to be part of the German school and they were able to do that, so off they went to Germany. I think that is great part of history to see because there are so many other students who today go to other countries because they are able to expand their knowledge in that country. Another thing that I found interesting in this section is that many who started at the German universities were either studying medicine or a science, but by the end of the century there were many who were studying psychology.
2a) What did you find interesting?
Weber’s Law.
2b) Why was it interesting to you?
I liked this section because I remember learning this back in high school and it brought back what I had learned. It shows the ‘just noticeable difference (JND)’ from stimulus A to stimulus B will be constant. This was a major advancement in the growing world of perceptions. An example of this is if there are two large bottles of water on the table we make an estimate of how do those bottles of water weigh. Ernest Weber was a stepping stone with this new idea.
3a) What did you find interesting?
Hermann Ebbinghaus
3b) Why was it interesting to you?
I was interested in his ideas of memory. He used the nonsense syllabus to memorize things further. His ideas on serial learning was also interesting because the mind is always trying to build on what is already known, and how to be to remember it all once it is in the mind to keep.
4a) What one (1) thing did you find the least interesting?
Mental Chronometry
4b) Why wasn't it interesting to you?
I was least interested in this section because there was a lot of math and I am not a math person at all. It all was just to0 confusing to me and hard to grasp the full concept.
5) What did you read in the chapter that you think will be most useful to in understanding the history of psychology?
I think that the section on memory was very important. The mind is so complex and for someone to take on the task of understanding how memory works in so important. From there we learned about long and short term memories.
6) How, in what ways, does this chapter relate (build on) to the previous chapters?
This chapter builds onto the previous chapters. The previous chapters were about people mainly and in this chapter it is focusing on the ideas that these people came across. This chapter can also build onto future chapters because we will learn more about the advancements in these ideas.
7a) What topic would you like to learn more about?
Hermann Ebbinghaus
7b) Why?
I really like learning about memory and I would like to see more of his ideas then what was listed in the book.
8) What ideas related to what you were reading (what did you think about) did you have while reading the chapter?
In the beginning of the chapter when reading about the education in Germany, there were many students that traveled from the US to Germany for an education. I wondered did they learn more than what they would have if they were living in the US and attending school?
9) Once you are done with your post make list of the terms and terminology you used in your post.
Weber’s Law.
just noticeable difference (JND)
Ernest Weber
Hermann Ebbinghaus
Nonsense syllabus
Serial learning
Mental Chronometry
1) What did you find interesting? Why?
The first thing I found interesting was Weber’s research on two-point thresholds. I had never heard of his research on this topic. While reading it, I thought, “Oh. That’s interesting. I never knew that, but I guess that makes sense.” I enjoy reading about things that I did not know before.
2) What did you find interesting? Why?
I thought how Gustav Fechner lost his eyesight from staring at the sun was interesting. My mom had always told me not to look directly at the sun because it could be harmful. However, I never believed her. It was interesting to read about how it actually happened to someone. I also thought it was interesting to read that he recovered most of his eyesight.
3) What did you find interesting? Why?
The last thing I found interesting was how Oswald Kulpe preferred to give his students the credit rather than take it for himself. I thought this was interesting because I’ve never heard of a researcher not wanting to take credit for his research.
4) What one (1) thing did you find the least interesting? Why?
The thing I was the least interested in was Ebbinghaus’s nonsense syllables. I didn’t like this section because I just thought it was boring. The whole experiment itself was slightly confusing in the way it was described in the text. I found it difficult to keep track of what it was trying to depict.
5) What did you read in the chapter that you think will be most useful to in understanding the history of psychology?
I think the section on Wilhelm Wundt was the most informative section on the chapter. I think it was very helpful to understand the first laboratories that researched psychological topics. It will be good to know this information for later chapters because it gives us a better background on where psychological research began.
6) How, in what ways, does this chapter relate (build on) to the previous chapters?
This chapter talks about the learning and study of how the brain functions (i.e. memory, movement, and other processes). The last chapter we learned how the brain was studied in terms of structure.
7) What topic would you like to learn more about? Why?
I would like to learn more about Fechner’s study of after images. When taking Biopsychology, I thought it was interesting how the rods and cones could get exhausted from a certain color and then show the opposite color when someone looks at a blank page. I just thought it was interesting.
8) What ideas related to what you were reading (what did you think about) did you have while reading the chapter?
When I was reading about Fechner, I just thought back to what I had learned during my biopsych course last fall. I was just adding to the information that I already knew.
9) Once you are done with your post make list of the terms and terminology you used in your post.
Two-point thresholds, Gustav Fechner, Oswald Kulpe, Ebbinghaus, nonsense syllables, Wilhelm Wundt, rods, cones, afterimages
1a) What did you find interesting?
I found Hermann Ebbinghaus interesting.
1b) Why was it interesting to you?
I thought the way Ebbinghaus studied memory was interesting. I thought the time he spent on it showed real dedication. I like how by reading about him, I could tell how dedicated he was not only by the time he spent on his research but also what he suffered while doing his research, such as headaches and exhaustion. I would personally find it annoying to memorize lists 60+ times.
2a) What did you find interesting?
I also thought Oswald Kulpe was interesting.
2b) Why was it interesting to you?
The main reason I liked reading about Oswald Kulpe was because I liked that he let the findings that happened in his lab be associated with the students. I also liked that he wanted to challenge his mentor, Wundt, on what could be studied in the laboratory.
3a) What did you find interesting?
I also found Gustav Fechner interesting to read about.
3b) Why was it interesting to you?
I found Fechner interesting because of the way he bounced back after his eye incident. It is also evident that Gustav Fechner was dedicated to his work from the way he risked his eyesight. I think it is crazy that he suffered from depression and anxiety from losing his eyesight. I also think it is even crazier that he was able to regain control over his life after his vision started coming back.
4a) What one (1) thing did you find the least interesting?
I found the mental chronometry section uninteresting.
4b) Why wasn't it interesting to you?
This was not interesting to me because it was a little hard for me to understand. I did not completely understand the equations involving the DRT, SRT, and the CRT. It was also hard for me to find the importance in the reading.
5) What did you read in the chapter that you think will be most useful to in understanding the history of psychology?
I think all of the information on Wundt was the most useful information in this section. I think it was the most useful because it seems that a lot of other researcher’s findings came from what he started. Wundt researched numerous things and wrote numerous books throughout his lifetime. After reading this chapter, it seems to me like Wundt was one of the most influential Psychologists of his time.
6) How, in what ways, does this chapter relate (build on) to the previous chapters?
This chapter adds more to my knowledge of the history of Psychology. It is hard to see how one chapter relates to the next though since each chapter is new information. This chapter built on the last chapter because it talked about the new science, which is the science of Psychology.
7a) What topic would you like to learn more about?
I would like to learn more about the labs of the Psychologist’s mentioned in this chapter.
7b) Why?
I would be interested in learning more about them because I would like to know what they looked like and the environment that the researchers worked in. This chapter touched on the laboratories a little bit but I still think it would be interesting to know a little more, especially about what the environment of the laboratories were like.
8) What ideas related to what you were reading (what did you think about) did you have while reading the chapter?
I thought about my life when I was reading about apperception. Most of the time, when I am doing my homework, I listen to music as well. Wundt would say that the music I am listening to is being apprehended but not apperceived. I thought the idea of apperception was interesting because I could relate that to most things in my life, even the dog example that they gave.
9) Once you are done with your post make list of the terms and terminology you used in your post.
Herman Ebbinghaus, Memory, Oswald Kulpe, Wundt, Gustav Fechner, Mental chronometry, DRT, SRT, CRT, Apperception, Apperceived
1a) What did you find interesting?
Weber’s law was interesting because it ties in with cognitive psychology class I am in as well
1b) Why was it interesting to you?
I knew that humans experience and perceive things in a growing ratio. It was originally explained to me using the example of light intensity. I did not know that it was originally discovered using weights, but it can be applied to sound and light, and probably taste and smell. I have seen research about weight lifting that explains that when people do not know how much they are lifting, they are able to lift more than their maximum. I want to know how this plays into Weber’s law and his just noticeable differences.
2a) What did you find interesting?
Continuing on with Ernst Weber and two-point threshold in fear of looking like I only read the first part of the book.
2b) Why was it interesting to you?
The two-point threshold is a trivial test on the surface, but it begins to unlock the beginnings of the nervous system and sensory perception. A position compass like instrument was used to see when one point on a person’s limb begins to feel like two. The two ends of the compass would start together and slowly separate, and the participant would tell Weber to stop when it felt like two different points. What was found was that the extremities, fingers and hands, were much more sensitive to this test than the forearm, bicep/tricep, and shoulder. Unfortunately for Weber he did not have the brain imaging techniques we have today, so he did not know that the sensory areas of the brain are larger for fingers when compared to shoulders. This test however may have been a precursor to this discovery.
3a) What did you find interesting?
Wundt’s philosophy on how the mind organizes experiences. The section titled The Real Wundt.
3b) Why was it interesting to you?
Wilhelm Wundt’s system of cognition was called voluntarism. He believed the mind voluntarily chose what to focus attention on. Attention could be analogous with sight in the there is a focal point and peripherals. The human eye focuses on the area of interest, as does attention, but this does not mean that is the only thing we see or attend to. Peripheral vision sees things we are not directly attending to, but we are aware of our surroundings. Our attention is picking up other signals from our environment, in my case pet lizards moving about and a ticking clock, but before writing that sentence my attention was on this paper. Where the majority of a human’s attention is called apperception. It is the bulk of what attention is focusing on.
4a) What one (1) thing did you find the least interesting?
Wundt’s distorted history
4b) Why wasn't it interesting to you?
It is important to know that Boring was influenced by Titchener and that is why we got an incomplete version of who Wundt was. What is not important is the amount of detail. The page on section could have been reduced to a chapter, and I am always for less reading, especially of excess information.
5) What did you read in the chapter that you think will be most useful to in understanding the history of psychology?
Understanding the impact of Wundt’s research and theories. I still do not entirely understand the impact he had because a majority of his findings and ways of thinking are taken for granted by myself and I’m sure other psychologists.
6) How, in what ways, does this chapter relate (build on) to the previous chapters?
It seems like we are learning less names and more concepts. Wundt and the several fellows before him are grooming the sciences to form what is psychology. It is almost a natural, social, and scientific evolution.
7a) What topic would you like to learn more about?
What made Ebbinghaus tick.
7b) Why?
Who in their right mind would waste such time memorizing nonsense syllables. I suppose someone had to do it if we wanted this kind of research done before some more modern utilities were available.
8) What ideas related to what you were reading (what did you think about) did you have while reading the chapter?
I guess I do not understand how Kulpe and the Wurzburg school would prove imageless thought. I think they are correct and it makes sense, but proving it would be awfully hard especially when it went against mainstream ideas at the time.
9) Once you are done with your post make list of the terms and terminology you used in your post.
Weber’s law, jnd, two-point threshold, Wilhelm Wundt, voluntarism, apperception,, Herman Ebbinghaus, Oswald Kulpe, Wurzburg School
1a) I found psychophysics interesting
1b) I found this interesting because I didn’t even know there was such a thing. Psychophysics is the study of the relationship between the perception of a stimulus event and the physical dimensions of the stimulus being perceived. What was fascinating was that Ernst Weber came up with all of these ideas but the main one that stands out to me is kinesthesis which is muscle sense. I didn’t know that all of this had to do with psychology so I find it very interesting.
2a)Mental Chronometry was interesting
2b) I found this interesting because it is actually now called reaction time and it talks about in this section how Wundt became Helmholtz’s assistant after the nerve impulse studies and they became interested in measuring mental speed which also refers to as reaction time.
3a) I liked the section about Wilhelm Wundt
3b) It shows how he has changed. He has rediscoveries, who the real Wundt is, and there’s a Wundtian Legacy. Wundt is the known as the first experimental psychologist of the more modern era. Psychology got a lot of its motivation from Wundt’s ideas and examples.
4a) I didn’t find anything the least interesting.
4b) I found everything from this chapter interesting.
5) I think the section on Wilhelm Wundt will be the most useful for history and systems because he has a more modern approach and his ideas are easier to understanding then most older psychologists.
6) In the first chapter it was talked about how history has and is being rewritten because of new technology and all of the new information that we gather. This is relating to the idea that Wundt is becoming new and improved and in chapter four it is talking about what we knew before about Wundt and what we know now because of new information we are interpreting.
7a) I would like to learn more about The Wurzburg School.
7b) I would like to learn more because I don’t have a lot of information about this topic.
8) When reading this chapter I was thinking about what I already knew about Wundt and him being an experimental psychologist but I didn’t know that he was “rediscovered”.
9) experimental psychology, Wurzburg school, interpreting, Wundtian legacy, Wilhelm Wundt, measuring mental speed (reaction time), nerve impulse studies, Helmholtz’s, Mental Chronometry, kinesthesis, Ernst Weber, stimulus, psychophysics.
1a) What did you find interesting?
Psychophysics
1b) Why was it interesting to you?
I found this interesting because this concept is a mixture of both psychology and physiology. I also thought it was interesting that this was introduced from Germany. Psychophysics is defined as the study of the relationship between perception of a stimulus event and also the physical dimensions of the stimulus being perceived. Psychophysics was first originated in the sensory research of Ernst Weber. Weber used this to study the relative sensitivity in different areas of our skin. Weber used what is known as the two-point threshold. Two-point threshold allows us to understand when the perception changes from feeling one point to feeling two points. Weber found great sensitivity in the thumb, but less sensitivity in the upper arm. Psychophysics was later defined by Gustav Fechner.
2a) What did you find interesting?
Education in Germany
2b) Why was it interesting to you?
I thought it was interesting that the book talks about how Americans have always been interested in furthering their education in Germany. It even gives an example how college students today are interested in studying abroad over in Germany. This made me question going there if I ever studied abroad. In the 19th century a lot of Americans students studied science in Germany. During the latter half of century students went to Germany to study a new approach to psychology that was beginning to develop. Leipzip was known as a popular university in Germany that students went to.
3a) What did you find interesting?
Mental Sets and Imageless Thoughts
3b) Why was it interesting to you?
I found it interesting that Oswald Kulpe created the Wurzburg school of psychology with his students. I also found it interesting that from the previous chapter Titchener believed that all thoughts included images. However thoughts are now looked at differently in this chapter. They were able to come up with two terms known as mental set and imageless thought. Mental sets referred to the effect of giving observers some instructions that influence them to think in certain ways. Imageless thought was known as any thought process that could not be further reduced to mental images.
4a) What one (1) thing did you find the least interesting?
Mental chronometry
4b) Why wasn't it interesting to you?
I honestly thought this chapter was the least interesting so far. I had difficulty staying focused while reading this chapter. However, I also thought that mental chronometry was the least interesting. I had a hard time understanding this concept. I tried to read over the terms provided to get a better understanding, but still struggled.
5) What did you read in the chapter that you think will be most useful to in understanding the history of psychology?
This chapter helps you understand who kind of introduced psychology. Weber and Wundt are more important people to remember. It is also important to know where this is all taking place. Everything is starting to collide and come together in this chapter. Experimental psychology is now starting to become introduced as well.
6) How, in what ways, does this chapter relate (build on) to the previous chapters?
This chapter introduces more information about psychology by building on from the individuals’ findings and theories from the previous chapters. It is important to realize every individual’s concept and theories matter. The previous chapter talks about the function of the nerves system and localization of the brain function. With this information individuals can now move forward in their research. This chapter can now introduce information about sensitivity, mental process, and etc.
7a) What topic would you like to learn more about?
Gustav Fechner
7b) Why?
I thought Gustav Fechner was a very interesting guy to read about. I found it interesting that Fechner damaged his eyesight tremendously during his study of visual afterimages. Also I enjoyed reading his elements of psychophysics, especially about absolute and difference thresholds. I would like to learn more about Fechner’s background and elements of psychophysics.
8) What ideas related to what you were reading (what did you think about) did you have while reading the chapter?
I thought about how many Americans went to Germany for education. Do you think college students today would learn more in the U.S. or in Germany? I didn’t really have any other ideas or thoughts? This chapter was my least favorite and I had a difficult time thinking more in-depth over the concepts and terms.
9) Once you are done with your post make list of the terms and terminology you used in your post.
Gustav Fechner, Psychophysics, Ernst Weber, two-point threshold, Mental chronometry, absolute threshold, difference threshold, Wilhelm Wundt, Oswald Kulpe, Mental Sets and Imageless Thoughts
1a) I found it interesting when the author talked about the misconceptions of Wundt.
1b) It is a perfect example about the idea that history changes as new information is found or reanalyzed. It makes me wonder how many psychologists where a little shocked by the reanalysis of Wundt's life.
2a) Although talked about briefly, the allied bomber that destroyed Wundt's new laboratory during WWII.
2b) As a historian in training, I like to look at this and wonder, did the war (specifically WWI when he wasn't retired)effect his work at all. And if it did, how so? It would definitely be something for me to look into.
3a) The life of Wundt was the last thing I found interesting.
3b) Although he wasn't the main topic the whole chapter, I really enjoyed learning about his life. I remember in high school learning about the founders of psychology, and was never exposed to anything other than a sentence explaining their main contribution to the discipline.
4a) I didn't find the data on reaction time very interesting.
4b) If I felt like it would effect my interest in the man named Wundt even more, than maybe I would have enjoyed learning about the intricate details of it all. However, it was a good "case study" example to illustrate how the "official" first experiments in psychology played out.
5. I think understanding the frame work of how psychology officially broke off from philosophy would be a good thing to know. In high school (again) we never got into too much detail of what happened before Psychology was considered a separate discipline.
6. Once again, going back to the idea that you need to be weary of historians writing during their own time with their own agendas and biases. Even if unintentional, what an historian puts down on paper could have lasting impressions on the unprepared minds of newbie history readers. This definitely relates to the first chapter.
7a&b) I would love to learn more about how the separation of philosophy and psychology were affected by the first world war. Since, after all, Germany played a vital part during this time frame.
8. I would have to go with the same comment made by the student above me. I really got a lot out of reading about Wundt. It pretty much made my night. It was a story of a man that had a lot to say; and thanks to him saying it, we now have Psychology!
9. Reaction Time, Wilhelm Wundt, Leipzig Laboratory, interpretation
1a) What did you find interesting?
- Two-Point Threshold: Point where the perception of two points touching the skin changes from "one point" to "two points perceived"; studied extensively be Weber
1b) Why was it interesting to you?
- I think this is interesting because it shows how our brain controls multiple facets of our lives. Not only was this research important in the start up of psychology as a science, it also helped to put the mind-body question into a solvable, scientifically measurable form. This research done by Weber really was the starting point for psychology as a science, and not a philosophy.
2a) What did you find interesting?
- William Wundt
2b) Why was it interesting to you?
- William Wundt is such an iconic figure in the field of psychology. He really helped make psychology a scientific form, by not only reading and understanding physiology, but by writing and creating ways to test the relationship between the mind and the body.
3a) What did you find interesting?
- Voluntarism: Wundt's system of psychology so called because of his emphasis on the idea that the mind actively organizes information.
3b) Why was it interesting to you?
- Today we know that the brain does organize information, making it easier for us to remember and recall events, but I think it is interesting that they discovered this during this time period of psychological evolution. Although Wundt proposed it as a theory, its rather interesting to know that he was, in the least, right.
4a) What one (1) thing did you find the least interesting?
- Nonsense Syllables: Consonant - vowel - consonant combinations, invented by Ebbinghaus as tumulus materials in his studies on the formation and retention of associations.
4b) Why wasn't it interesting to you?
- One, I don't know how Ebbingaus stared at those charts, and remembered literally nonsense data. Two, all I could think about while reading this section was the 7(+,- 2) rule. I know that this was probably the best way to study memory during this time period but that had to have been the worst.
5) What did you read in the chapter that you think will be most useful to in understanding the history of psychology?
- Jost's Law: If two associations have the same strength, additional practice strengthens the older of the associations more than the younger.
- I think this will be important because it is still a psychological theory today.
6) How, in what ways, does this chapter relate (build on) to the previous chapters?
- This chapter moves out of the background and into the early beginning of psychology as its own science. We are finally getting to see the early founder of our field, and the process they went through to get it legitimized.
7a) What topic would you like to learn more about?
- Introspection: Method of experiencing some phenomenon and then describing the conscious experience of the phenomenon.
7b) Why?
- I would like to see how this relates to today. This section of the book was a little confusing to me; and presented a lot of information. Would this be like doing a remedial daily task, and then explaining it? Like eating an apple (how you eat an apple), or would it be more like describing the taste of the apple?
8) What ideas related to what you were reading (what did you think about) did you have while reading the chapter?
- I was interested in all the memory research that was being done, along with all the intelligence research. I think its interesting that in the early stages of psychology they jumped into areas that are still very much apart of our science today. We are still trying to understand memory, and learning functions (although we have a much more in-depth understanding than they did).
9) Two-Point Threshold, Weber, Wundt, Voluntarism, Nonsense Syllables, Jost's Law, Introspection
1a) What did you find interesting? The two point threshold
1b) Why was it interesting to you? I thought it was very interesting because it is something we did in my ap psych class. We learned about how far away two points can be before they can be felt because of sensitivity. Again I think anything about sensation is interesting so learning which parts of the body are sensitive enough for recognition is interesting. This is also linked to muscle movement and being able to tell which weighs more based on lifting rather than simply holding.
2a) What did you find interesting? Wundts new psychology
2b) Why was it interesting to you? I found his two new programs: conscious experience using experiments in labs and higher mental processes interesting. The conscious experiment uses introspection and internal perception. Self observation is used for introspection and then a narrower process of responding to controlled stimuli using internal perception.
3a) What did you find interesting? The phenomena of apperception
3b) Why was it interesting to you? This is to focus all of one’s attention on something and have full clarity of the issue. This is used all the time even in reading the book in order to comprehend what is being said even with distractions. Reading for example we view it and know even the letters and know what the word means then put the words together to continue understanding.
4a) What one (1) thing did you find the least interesting? The Wurzburg school
4b) Why wasn't it interesting to you? While many important things took place in the labs there I found it tedious to learn about and was unable to focus on it.
5) What did you read in the chapter that you think will be most useful to in understanding the history of psychology? Most learning about the thresholds and the new way that these scientists especially wundt started learning about mental processes.
6) How, in what ways, does this chapter relate (build on) to the previous chapters? It continues to talk about the rise and fall of the ideas in psychology and different process that occur not only in thought process but in sensation.
7a) What topic would you like to learn more about? The findings of the threshold
7b) Why? I would like to know why they were even researched along with what knowing the sensitive areas of your body can do.
8) What ideas related to what you were reading (what did you think about) did you have while reading the chapter? What kind of experiences did Wundt like to learn most about? And what can scientists learn from him today about how everything doesn’t need to be taught in a lab?
9) Once you are done with your post make list of the terms and terminology you used in your post. Introspection, internal perception, thresholds, two point threshold, apperception, conscious attitudes
1a) What did you find interesting?
1b) Why was it interesting to you?
I really enjoyed learning about all the kinds of thresholds. I never really understood them before and after reading this chapter I really grasp the whole idea and find it even more interesting. I think it's pretty crazy that the further you go up the arm, there is more sensitive feelings that occur and I tried it out and it is so true. I remember back in the day we used to play the arm crease game and I know realize that the higher they went on the arm, the better it felt.
2a) What did you find interesting?
2b) Why was it interesting to you?
I found nonsense syllables and memory to be interesting because I love the brain and how it works. It's very interesting that Ebbinghaus would come up with this concept to learn more about memory and the working brain/memory. To me, it seemed a little absurd to create and go threw 2,300 CVC's, but his end result seemed to be very successful and beneficial. The memory is so intriguing because it can do so many amazing functions with the simplest prompting or rehearsal.
3a) What did you find interesting?
3b) Why was it interesting to you?
Ebbinghaus in general sparked a great interest in me because of how smart and talented he seemed to be. I thought it was pretty neat that he also the one to invent the sentence completion test, which was pretty much an intelligent test that was later developed by Binet. He seemed to find out a lot of mental abilities threw various testing and he was success which is also a huge plus. I also love his famous quote that he would always open with in his books which was, "Psychology has a long past, yet its real history is short." This statement holds so true because there is so much to know, yet not a lot of people know nearly as much as they should.
4a) What one (1) thing did you find the least interesting?
4b) Why wasn't it interesting to you?
I'm not sure if I found any parts of this chapter not interesting but the part about mental chronometry seemed to stump me a little bit. I was a little confused because of all the equations and it was just really hard to stay focused, which obviously would lead me not to understand it as well. I tried reading it over and over again, but each time I got nothing. I'm not much of a math person and I feel like this concept would just confuse me and bore me more than teach me. I'm sure it's interesting, it was just really hard for me to grasp the idea of mental chronometry.
5) What did you read in the chapter that you think will be most useful to in understanding the history of psychology?
I personally think the research and information of Wundt was overall really important in understanding the history of Psychology. I think this because it seems like a lot of his initial research led others to act and to become more involved in researching as well. A lot of people built off of Wundt's research/information. Wundt seemed like he played a really important part in the Psychology world and it seemed like he definitely made his mark.
6) How, in what ways, does this chapter relate (build on) to the previous chapters?
I think that this chapter built off of the last chapter in a couple ways. The first ways would be how it has some correlation between the brain. Last chapter it was more about the structure and parts of the brain, but in this chapter it talked about the memory and feelings the body has, which involves the brain still. It also talked about nonsense syllables which is also containing to the brain function and working memory. The other way would be because it is still building on the important scientists/researchers/psychologists that have contributed to the history of Psychology the most throughout the years.
7a) What topic would you like to learn more about?
7b) Why?
I would love to learn even more about threshold research because like I stated before I find it really interesting. Knowing more about how these thresholds can affect the human body and others while interacting with another could be helpful and beneficial. Feeling good is always a great thing and if people knew more about the different thresholds they could find ways to make others and themselves feel good when they need it per say.
8) What ideas related to what you were reading (what did you think about) did you have while reading the chapter?
The whole time I really thought about thresholds because my mom has been having difficulties with her personal thresholds in regards to headaches, so I have been hearing a lot about them as well personally.But, the other thing that was going threw my mind was why and how did they even get on the topic of researching something as weird as thresholds? It just seems so random. Like was there an issue that arose and then they had to figure it out or was it just one of those things that just came up one day.
9) Once you are done with your post make list of the terms and terminology you used in your post.
Thresholds, Wundt, Memory, Nonsense Syllables, Mental Chronometry, CVC's, Ebbinghaus, Mental Testing, Sentence Completion Test, Binet, and History of Psychology.
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1a) What did you find interesting?
Work of Ernst Weber
1b) Why was it interesting to you?
I found Ernst Weber’s work very. One of his experiments was the two point threshold, which is the point where a person’s perception changes from feeling one point on the skin to feeling two different points. The more sensitive the skin, the smaller the threshold. The less sensitive the skin, the farther apart the needle points had to be for the person to identify that there were two different points, so higher threshold. The relation to psychology is pretty clear, perception is what is studied, and psychology has a lot to with perception. Another of Webers experiments/theory was muscle sense. When weights were placed in the hands of subjects they could make more distinct differences in weight when actually using their muscles, rather than with inactive muscles.
2a) What did you find interesting?
Gustav Fechner
2b) Why was it interesting to you?
I found Fechner to be an entertaining guy, and completely bonkers. He did the experiments with afterimages, and stared at the sun too long and damaged his eyesight, to the point where he went blind. Amazingly he regained his eyesight. Also, it’s interesting that he managed to overcome neurosis, without any medication, not that there was any available for that specific purpose during his time. Those are really the main reasons I found him interesting. No one ever knew or said that staring at the sun would damage your eyesight, but Fechner just went for it and now I guess we can officially say staring at the sun is bad.
3a) What did you find interesting?
Unassociated stimuli
3b) Why was it interesting to you?
This appealed to me because Hermann Ebbinghaus worked on forgetting and learning how it happens at a rapid rate. It appealed to me because I tend to forget, all the time, I always wondered if it really is normal or if the super glue is drying out around my seams. I think if we were able to completely understand “forgetting” it would cut the learning curve in half. We would not have to study, relearn subjects, and so on.
4a) What one (1) thing did you find the least interesting?
Mental Chronometry
4b) Why wasn't it interesting to you?
Mathematics make me cry.
5) What did you read in the chapter that you think will be most useful to in understanding the history of psychology?
Memory definitely. Memory has come up a lot in the recent chapters, and every time it comes up that Is what I put for this answer. If we understand the mind we could open the door to so many different areas of study, remember, forgetting, everybody would be a genius and we would all get on each other’s nerves.
6) How, in what ways, does this chapter relate (build on) to the previous chapters?
We keep getting introduced to new characters from history and their overall contribution to the study of psychology. Memory or different aspects of it like forgetting, remembering, focus, and what not, keep coming up in just about every chapter. Since psychology is mainly the study of the mind, it kind of makes sense.
7a) What topic would you like to learn more about?
Forgetting
7b) Why?
I forget. As I stated earlier, if we can overcome or understand forgetting we could accomplish so many different things.
8) What ideas related to what you were reading (what did you think about) did you have while reading the chapter?
Gustav Fechner. The guy is crazy, blind for a bit, an experimenter, and that makes his a psychologist. I find that pretty awesome.
9) Once you are done with your post make list of the terms and terminology you used in your post.
Sensations, perceptions, stimuli, weber’s law, ernest weber, threshold, Fechner, mental chronometry, muscle sense, ebbinghaus.
1a) What did you find interesting?
Wilhelm Wundt
1b) Why was it interesting to you?
Wundt was known as the Founding Father of Psychology. His studies on the conscious experience were groundbreaking and his books marking out the Principles of Physiological Psychology was a domain of a new science. Voluntarism was a topic Wundt discovered; this was the idea that the mind has the capacity to organize mental contents into higher level thought processes. Mediate and Immediate experiences was another Wundt studies; mediate provides information about something other than the elements of that experience; immediate experience is unbiased by interpretation. Introspection was examination of one's own mind to inspect and report on personal thoughts and feelings. And his tridimensional theory of feelings were Wundt's explanation for feeling states based on 3 dimensions; pleasure/displeasure, tension/relaxation, and excitement/depression. Wundt is justifiably considered the first true psychologist of the modern era. America soon after, established their own psychology, but much of the ideas came from Wundt.
2a) What did you find interesting?
Education in Germany
2b) Why was it interesting to you?
I thought it was interesting to know how much of an influence Germany had on the US in the modern-era. Large groups of American students studied sciences in Europe. Many went to Germany, mostly Leipzig, to study a new approach to psychology that was already developing there. Since Germans had the freedom of studying any research, the environment conducted new ideas, which included the idea of the new psychology. For American students of the 1880s who desired to learn about psychology, most were suited with Wundt's laboratory because it was best equipped and had the strongest reputation.
3a) What did you find interesting?
Psychophysics
3b) Why was it interesting to you?
After Helmhotz's studies of nerve impulse speed and the psychological method of reaction times were discovered, research on sensory process came into play and psychophysics was going to be a major role in science. This was the study of the relationship between physical stimuli and the psychological reaction to them. The first research in this tradition was completed be Ernst Weber, who investigated the relative sensitivity of various areas on the surface of the body using the two-point threshold. The two-point threshold was the point where the perception changes from feeling one point to feeling two. Gustav Fechner elaborated Weber's research and his Elements of Psychophysics is considered experimental psychology’s first text.
4a) What one (1) thing did you find the least interesting? Nothing
5) What did you read in the chapter that you think will be most useful to in understanding the history of psychology?
I was unaware that Wundt was the Founder of Psychology. I always believed Freud to be the founder, but I have to remember that US is not the only society making strides. German's were in the lab before the US so it makes since that they were the first to discover "the new psychology". I did not realize that students were going oversees to Germany just to work with Wundt either.
6) How, in what ways, does this chapter relate (build on) to the previous chapters?
This is just a little after the time period of chapter 3, but Hemlhot'z was still a contributor to further discoveries of sensory and it seems like most of psychology is just playing off of what one person says that furthering knowledge over the topic.
7a) What topic would you like to learn more about?
German scientists
7b) Why?
I know a little about German scientists, but that was during WWII. In the era before it seems like they have always been on top for research and other discoveries and it intrigues me that Germany had all of the knowledge so early. Now it seems the America has a lot of the knowledge since many scientists from Germany did flee to America.
8) What ideas related to what you were reading (what did you think about) did you have while reading the chapter? I thought about Wundt and Germany during the 1900s.
9) Once you are done with your post make list of the terms and terminology you used in your post.
stimuli, two-point threshold, Wundt, Feschner, voluntarism, mediate and immediate experiences, introspection, tridemsional theory of feelings.
1a) Wilhelm Wundt
1b) I found Wundt interesting because of the impact he made on the psychology we know and love today. Before Wundt left his mark psychology was not looked at like a science, it was more of a way of thinking instead. Wundt changed how we look at and our process in psychology with one of his most famous books “Contributions to a Theory of Sensory Perception”. This grabbed my attention because like the book said, this was the first time he associated himself publicly as an emerging experimental psychologist. I always knew that psychology wasn’t strictly an experimental approach, but I didn’t realize that in the grand scheme of things, that it took a while for someone to make a significant impression for going to an experimental approach. He started the “New Psychology”, which we now know as just psychology, he wanted to get the results from common psychological questions by using only the experimental approach. I found this guy so interesting because I love to find out how certain things came to be and what the people of the day were thinking about, Wundt filled that perfectly. He had a thought to answer these questions people were asking, and test them that is just so cool! We think that is such a simple thing to do because that’s all we have done, but really, it was a huge leap for the field of psychology to be thought of as a science.
2a) Nonsense Syllables
2b) This was very interesting to me because, I like to think that everyone has the ability to have a good memory, and I think people fall back on not having a good memory when they make mistakes. The way Ebbinghaus started his memorization study was interesting to me, I thought as a rough guess you would test people using a series of real words and see how much they remember. That is where this section really intrigued me, Ebbinhaus decided to not use words because they have too much of a meaning to people and will be able to associate the words with something, making it easier to remember. So what he decided was to make a series of 3 letter “words” that had 2 consonants on the outside with a vowel in the middle. He made a bunch of these words, about 2300 of them; he called them nonsense syllables, or CVCs. With doing that he made his approach to studying memory serial learning, the results of his CVC test was that the memory of each patient would steadily go down with each passing day or week. This part wasn’t surprising to me, because it happens with everything we learn, if we don’t have constant interaction with it, our knowledge will go down of that subject steadily. I just was really interested in how Ebbinghaus thought of and executed his experiment, it really was something I have never heard of before, I do wish we would have knowledge on how he came to his idea to use the CVCs, I would have loved to know what led him to this amazing discovery and process.
3a) Weber’s Law
3b) I was interested in Weber’s Law because knowing how our nerves and muscles get different sensations and our brain can interpret those sensations. I really was interested in the just noticeable difference (jnd), I never really thought about it extensively how we can’t tell the difference in weights until they pass a certain weight relative to the lower weight. I also thought this element was common knowledge, but I understand why they tested it, when the book was saying Weber would just lay his hands on the table and put weights on them and he couldn’t tell a difference in weight, until they lifted it then they felt it. I am falling victim to presentist thinking, but I do understand why they tried testing it that way, they wanted to see if the muscles or tendons in your hand could feel the weight. I was just interested in it because of how he thought about doing this experiment, I would never have thought this could be a psychological question, and that you can figure it out mathematically.
4a) Studying Higher Mental Processes
4b) I wasn’t that interested in this section, I was having a hard time getting into it, I felt as if it was kind of dragging on and I couldn’t concentrate on it as well as other sections.
5) I think the section about creating a new Psychology, going towards an experimental approach is the most useful for the history of psychology. I think it is because that is how we look at psych now. We don’t take any answer as fact until it is tested and retested.
6) This chapter builds on previous chapters in the sense that what Weber was doing was an extension of figuring out the nervous system and how it is connected to the brain. This chapter builds on the previous ones also by finding that we have a physical brain, instead of it being thought of as an empty space that is controlled by animal spirits.
7a) I would like to know more about Wilhelm Wundt
7b) I think he has many more cool contributions to the field of psychology besides the ones that were mentioned in the chapter, and I would like to know what those are.
8) I had two questions keep popping up in my head while reading the chapter, one of them was: How did they think of testing this topic? Then also, Were they the only ones that have thought about this, or were there other people thinking the same things, just didn’t get their study out first?
9) Wilhelm Wundt, Weber, Just noticeable difference, nonsense syllables, Weber’s Law, Ebbinghaus
1a) What did you find interesting?
Wissenschaft
1b) Why was it interesting to you?
The idea of Wissenschaft is that a college or education practice took a “scientific” approach to examining materials. It also talks about instead of just having a set curriculum such as class A, B, and C, you go study areas of science and get a degree based on defense of a thesis, much like master programs are designed now. It interests me, because I find flaws in some ideas of the education system, and this idea and wandering of experiences seems to resonate more what a true degree would be.
2a) What did you find interesting? Gustav Fechner losing his sight with his own experiments
2b) Why was it interesting to you?
I was reading this, and the idea that a man lost his eyesight, and eventually his sanity because of wanting to see an afterimage and study it. This section amused me, mainly because a grown man stared at the sun, something I am safe in assuming parents, even back in his days, told their kids to not do.
3a) What did you find interesting? Wundt and his ideas on sentences and understanding of them, and also apperception.
3b) Why was it interesting to you?
The part of sentence structures and understanding interested me because it is relevant in everyday usage. People misconstrue the meanings of sentences in conversations all the time; people also shorten sentences and ideas into the main points to re-convey them at a later date.
Apperception is to perceive something completely while it is being focused on. The book talks about this and how reading is a process of this, but the reason it struck me as interesting is because it talks about other stuff that can be on your “periphery of your attention” such as a TV in the background. The book specifically mentions music, which is how I do all my homework, so it made me go back and reread it so I fully got it, so the author’s example struck a chord with me.
4a) What one (1) thing did you find the least interesting?
Memory Study
4b) Why wasn't it interesting to you?
Overall the chapter had a lot of points that were made into understanding psychology, and of the points made this chapter, the one that wasn’t the most engaging was the section on memory study. It was just there, it is important, but the math behind it, and the studies just weren’t interesting to me.
5) What did you read in the chapter that you think will be most useful to in understanding the history of psychology?
I think the most important part is the understanding of the beginning of experimental colleges and procedures. Psychology is heavily research oriented; this chapter touches the beginnings of this with Wilhem Wundt and his idea of a new psychology. It talks about his beginning labs and also his very in depth additions to the science of which he added more content than a clever analogy could convey.
6) How, in what ways, does this chapter relate (build on) to the previous chapters?
Chapter 3 was heavily dealing with physiology; this chapter took the roots of physiologists and brought them into modern psych with mental processes and experiments. As a whole the first chapters are a very distinguished timeline with the starts of it all, slowly working into more modern psychology.
7a) What topic would you like to learn more about?
Fractionation
7b) Why?
The idea of fractionation sounds a lot like a tactic one would use when coping with stress and controlling it. The main point being that one can break apart a study or experiment into components and look more in depth of the components. This sounds a lot like what people do with projects by breaking them into little pieces to make it easier to manage. It seems odd a tactic for stress management was originally a theory on how to understand experiments better.
8) What ideas related to what you were reading (what did you think about) did you have while reading the chapter?
The major thing that stood out to me was that experiments were also their own subjects, and this was an accepted practice. Findings were published and accepted, even if the experimenter was the only subject. In the modern research setting this is a red flag and leads to a huge research bias. It makes me wonder if scientists were more honest and reliable, or if more acceptable universal guidelines weren’t present and scientists were able to get away with more gray area aspects in studies.
9) Once you are done with your post make list of the terms and terminology you used in your post.
Wissenschaft, Gustav Fechner, Wilhem Wundt, Apperception, Fractionation
1a) & 1b)
I found it interesting that students back then did not have to meet requirements of a specific curriculum but rather could wander from university to university taking exams and defending research in order to earn a degree. Another thing I found interesting was how many of the experiments in the past were done on the researcher themselves, versus having participants.
It was also interesting to read about Fechner damaging his eyesight as a result of all of the experimentation he was doing. Everyone took risks back then and were all so dedicated to their studies. Lastly, it was interesting to me how Fechner and Helmholtz shared so many similarities such as connections allowing them to begin their medical studies and their work with Johannes Muller.
2a) & 2b)
It seems like the field owes a lot to Wundt. He dug deeper than what most people were doing at the time and started thinking about mental processes in terms of areas such as learning, thinking, language and cultural effects. I’ve always been interested in the nature vs. nurture debate so reading about his theory of understanding the evolution of mental processes was neat. The chapter discussed how a lot of basic knowledge concerning sensory systems we learn about today regards research which was done in Wundt’s lab which is crazy to me that such great ideas were developed there and are continued today. Another issue the book brought up which I found interesting, especially knowing what we do about Wundt now is the fact that without this new increasing interest in experimental study and rising cognitive psychology, we wouldn’t have decided to reexamine Wundt and all he did.
3a) & 3b)
I’m very interested in memory so I really enjoyed when the book discussed things like retroactive inhibition, the theory of forgetting and Muller’s association with memory study. The memory drum was a cool invention as we didn’t have computers back then. It was cool how even though the University of Gottingen didn’t award women advanced degrees that Muller allowed many of them into his laboratory.Crazy that a lot of peoples work never got well known or popular because it couldn’t be translated into english.
4a) & 4b)
I had a really difficult time trying to decide what was the least interesting so here are a few examples of some sections that I had difficulty understanding. I couldn’t wrap my mind around Wundt’s idea of the mind organizing experiences through acts of will. His apperception and voluntarism concepts were confusing to me. Also the section discussing Karl concept of imageless thought was confusing to me.
5)
Before this chapter I didn’t realize that psychology stemmed off and borrowed so much from physiology. Wundt set the example for what is American psychology today. I think its all about learning how concepts and ideas began. This chapter brought up just noticeable difference which I’ve heard about several times but never know how it all came about. It was cool learning about Fecnher and his role in being called the first experimental psychologist as well as all of his insight contributing to what was considered the first book of experimental psychology. I love seeing how the field began and roles people had in it playing out. His efforts in creating a research program along with a set of methods eye opening to others led the way for Wundt in proclaiming a new psychology not long after, making it become a science.
6)
This chapter discussed the success of physiology which we saw in chapter three and reinforcing the emphasis on a research based atmosphere. This chapter also brought up materialism once again and how Fechner wanted to defeat it. This chapter as well mentioned Boring who we were introduced to in Chapter one. In chapter one we learned about how history is constantly rewritten when new information comes around. This idea surfaced again within this chapter. Finally, this chapter brought up empiricist associations, along with their analysis of association processes which brought us back to chapter two and how they considered association to be analogous to gravity.
7a) & 7b)
I’m interested in memory so looking more in Ebbinghaus and his work would be interesting. It was cool how his memory book had inaugurated a research tradition that still exists today and even includes data which continue to exist in the textbooks of basic psychology. Its interesting how he dedicated so much of his life on his work and memorized over 1,300 lists. He seemed to be extremely passionate and pioneered mental testing. This book even got its opening quote for chapter two from Ebbinghaus. “psychology has a long past, yet its real history is short.”
8)
In this chapter as well as the past few we’ve read it seemed like many people and ideas during this time seemed to be all coming from Germany. Also everyone just seemed so intelligent and began learning several languages at very young ages as well as attending universities way before the ages we do now. I was shocked when reading the harsh words of Cattell regarding Wundt. In a letter to his parents he wrote things like, “Wundt’s lab has a reputation great than it deserves. Mind I do not consider my work of any special importance, I only consider Wundt’s of still less.”
One section discussed Kulpe becoming interested in psychology while he was taking a class from Wundt and after doing work in Muller’s lab he became positive that psychology was his destined career. It seems like a lot of people from this time were interconnected.
9) Terminology: Two-point threshold, JND, Weber’s Law, Absolute Threshold, Voluntarism, Apperception, Memory Drum, Imageless Thought.
1a) & 1b)
I found it interesting that students back then did not have to meet requirements of a specific curriculum but rather could wander from university to university taking exams and defending research in order to earn a degree. Another thing I found interesting was how many of the experiments in the past were done on the researcher themselves, versus having participants.
It was also interesting to read about Fechner damaging his eyesight as a result of all of the experimentation he was doing. Everyone took risks back then and were all so dedicated to their studies. Lastly, it was interesting to me how Fechner and Helmholtz shared so many similarities such as connections allowing them to begin their medical studies and their work with Johannes Muller.
2a) & 2b)
It seems like the field owes a lot to Wundt. He dug deeper than what most people were doing at the time and started thinking about mental processes in terms of areas such as learning, thinking, language and cultural effects. I’ve always been interested in the nature vs. nurture debate so reading about his theory of understanding the evolution of mental processes was neat. The chapter discussed how a lot of basic knowledge concerning sensory systems we learn about today regards research which was done in Wundt’s lab which is crazy to me that such great ideas were developed there and are continued today. Another issue the book brought up which I found interesting, especially knowing what we do about Wundt now is the fact that without this new increasing interest in experimental study and rising cognitive psychology, we wouldn’t have decided to reexamine Wundt and all he did.
3a) & 3b)
I’m very interested in memory so I really enjoyed when the book discussed things like retroactive inhibition, the theory of forgetting and Muller’s association with memory study. The memory drum was a cool invention as we didn’t have computers back then. It was cool how even though the University of Gottingen didn’t award women advanced degrees that Muller allowed many of them into his laboratory.Crazy that a lot of peoples work never got well known or popular because it couldn’t be translated into english.
4a) & 4b)
I had a really difficult time trying to decide what was the least interesting so here are a few examples of some sections that I had difficulty understanding. I couldn’t wrap my mind around Wundt’s idea of the mind organizing experiences through acts of will. His apperception and voluntarism concepts were confusing to me. Also the section discussing Karl concept of imageless thought was confusing to me.
5)
Before this chapter I didn’t realize that psychology stemmed off and borrowed so much from physiology. Wundt set the example for what is American psychology today. I think its all about learning how concepts and ideas began. This chapter brought up just noticeable difference which I’ve heard about several times but never know how it all came about. It was cool learning about Fecnher and his role in being called the first experimental psychologist as well as all of his insight contributing to what was considered the first book of experimental psychology. I love seeing how the field began and roles people had in it playing out. His efforts in creating a research program along with a set of methods eye opening to others led the way for Wundt in proclaiming a new psychology not long after, making it become a science.
6)
This chapter discussed the success of physiology which we saw in chapter three and reinforcing the emphasis on a research based atmosphere. This chapter also brought up materialism once again and how Fechner wanted to defeat it. This chapter as well mentioned Boring who we were introduced to in Chapter one. In chapter one we learned about how history is constantly rewritten when new information comes around. This idea surfaced again within this chapter. Finally, this chapter brought up empiricist associations, along with their analysis of association processes which brought us back to chapter two and how they considered association to be analogous to gravity.
7a) & 7b)
I’m interested in memory so looking more in Ebbinghaus and his work would be interesting. It was cool how his memory book had inaugurated a research tradition that still exists today and even includes data which continue to exist in the textbooks of basic psychology. Its interesting how he dedicated so much of his life on his work and memorized over 1,300 lists. He seemed to be extremely passionate and pioneered mental testing. This book even got its opening quote for chapter two from Ebbinghaus. “psychology has a long past, yet its real history is short.”
8)
In this chapter as well as the past few we’ve read it seemed like many people and ideas during this time seemed to be all coming from Germany. Also everyone just seemed so intelligent and began learning several languages at very young ages as well as attending universities way before the ages we do now. I was shocked when reading the harsh words of Cattell regarding Wundt. In a letter to his parents he wrote things like, “Wundt’s lab has a reputation great than it deserves. Mind I do not consider my work of any special importance, I only consider Wundt’s of still less.”
One section discussed Kulpe becoming interested in psychology while he was taking a class from Wundt and after doing work in Muller’s lab he became positive that psychology was his destined career. It seems like a lot of people from this time were interconnected.
9) Terminology: Two-point threshold, JND, Weber’s Law, Absolute Threshold, Voluntarism, Apperception, Memory Drum, Imageless Thought.
I find Gustav Fechner interesting. He was something of a prodigy and well educated in many ways. Anyone studying psychology, whether or not they realized it, was a physiologist of some kind or another. Fechner was a medical doctor, physicist, as well as a philosopher, the culmination of which formed psychology. For everything he had going for him, he still had to overcome quite a lot. He overcame nearly blinding himself as well as other issues and the emotional implications of such a massive life change. His development of psychophysics made an undeniable contribution to the mind-body argument. It is just a shame that he chose the wrong side.
I find Wilhelm Wundt interesting. He had an uncanny talent of not only articulating his findings but convincing people that psychology was an area that demanded science’s attention. He is credited with founding modern psychology and with opening the first psychological laboratory, but he also made meaningful advances in psychophysics. He cleverly addressed the difficulty of accurately studying perception. He distinguished between self-observation and internal perception. He defined this instantaneous perceptions immediate conscious experience. While Wundt did not get an opportunity to study higher mental processes in his laboratory, his “new psychology” paved the way for a systematic observation of higher mental processes.
I find the early mental chronometry, or reaction time, to be interesting. Thanks to Helmholtz determining that nerve impulses could be measured, and in fact are much slower than previous scientists had guessed, psychologists were able to measure many mental processes. This led to the development of the subtractive method and complication experiments, both of which are still used in contemporary research.
The delving into the history of the history of Wundt was rather boring. Wilhelm Wundt was a brilliant man and made a large contribution to psychology. Yet, it seemed they put a little too much emphasis on defending his place in psychology’s history. A biography seemed more a proper place, not our text book.
The text did an excellent job of explaining why Germany was so relevant to psychology in the late 19th century. All the ministates, each featuring a university, explain the shear mass of academic activity. All the notable scientists and the people they influenced draws a brilliant web of how the intellectual ideas of the time spread.
The chapters in this text book are very chronological. This chapter was a definite segue into the 20th century. Also, establishing Wundt as the founder of modern psychology sets the stage for a trend of thinking for the next century in history. It is much like the empiricists did for the 19th century.
I would be interested in learning more about G. E. Müller. He doesn’t get much attention in American history of psychology, partly because not a lot of his work was translated. He made a meticulous effort to replicate and solidify valid theories. He solidified the thoroughness that is demanded by modern scientific method. I would like to understand where it all came from.
Key terms: Gustav Fechner, psychophysics, self-observation, internal perception, immediate conscious experience, higher mental processes, mental chronometry, subtractive method, complication experiment, Müller,
1a&b)Wilhelm Wundt and higher mental processes. The first thing I found interesting within the chapter was Wundt’s reluctance to study what he believed to be higher mental processes in his laboratory. As an aspiring scientist, I found it strange that the man who had made a career out of researching the ‘un-measurable’ would underestimate the controllable nature of his own place of study. Wundt believed that ‘learning, thinking, language, and the effects of culture’ needed study outside of the laboratory because they could not be studied in a controlled setting. I read on and came to understand that Wundt was actually very interested in and devoted to studying these processes, but thought that they must be researched using observational research to better understand social factors from the individual.
2a&b)Hermann Ebbinghaus and memory. I was interested by the section on Ebbinghaus and the study of memory because I had heard about memory schools since a few of my family members have attended them. I had also heard of the serial learning method before and it drew my interest that Ebbinghaus used this system to research the association between syllables. The Carnegie Mellon memory workshop that I had heard of teaches its students to use associations between words to help boost serial memory. I thought it was interesting that the link between association and memory is still being used as a tool for teaching today. Another thing from the section I found fascinating was that the text took the time to address criticism of Ebbinghaus and his research and to recognize that criticism as presentist.
3a&b)Oswald Kulpe and the Wurzburg School. I was first drawn to the section about Kulpe because he seemed to do the opposite of what I predicted of him at every sentence. Instead of agreeing unconditionally with his mentor of many years (Wundt) and his other friend-colleagues, Kulpe was determined to study higher mental processes in a laboratory. Also although he was prodigious in research and experimental psychology, he usually gave his students credit instead of publishing his research. It hadn’t really crossed my mind that this kind of thing could happen at this level of scholasticism and it certainly raised a few questions as to his reasons.
4a&b)least interested: Mental Chronometry. While reading the section about mental chronometry I found it difficult to really get excited about the experiments the scientists were conducting. This section seemed to be purely physiological to me, with nothing to really relate to psychology except the fact that it happened within the brain. I understand that it is much more complex than I make it seem but I would rather learn about the history of more deeply involved psychology dealing with mental disorder and illness as opposed to measuring reaction time, it’s just a personal preference.
5) Most useful in understanding the history of psychology within this chapter I think is the message that Oswald Kulpe brings to us through the text. Even though he was taught to believe and understand research and its limitations in a certain way, he challenged the model of thought that held that higher mental processes could be tested in a lab and made great discoveries that may have not happened for years later otherwise. It leads us to understand that in order to make history as those in this text book have done, we as potential scientists must understand that we must learn to question even things we are taught as truth.
6) This chapter builds on the previous by using the philosophical curiosity from the second chapter and the physiological understanding from the third; and combines them in this chapter by showing us the scientists who had both. The German laboratory experiments and scientists highlighted in the chapter offered an introduction to the kind of science that we recognize as physiologically sound today, while still incorporating the desire for knowledge and change apparent from what we learned in the philosophy chapter.
7a&b) After reading this chapter I was intrigued by memory testing and I would really like to learn more about what kinds of memory is being studied today and how far testing has come since the timeline mentioned in the chapter. I feel as if with all the memory research being done today that the scientific community is on the cusp of some very important new discoveries that will revolutionize the study and conception of memory as a whole. I would also like to look into psychology classes that go more in depth in this field as a possible research interest for my graduate career.
8) When looking into grad school programs I saw various faculty among many colleges who had research interests concerning memory. At first I thought it seemed odd that that many psychologists were devoting their time to this subject, but after reading this section I have come to hold memory and its research to a higher regard. Reading this section opened my eyes to the complex mental functioning behind memory and how important understanding memory really is. The main question I had while reading this chapter was how could I get more involved and learn more about this kind of research.
9)terms* Wilhelm Wundt, higher mental processes, Hermann Ebbinghaus, serial learning, Oswald Kulpe, mental chronometry
1a) What did you find interesting?
1b) Why was it interesting to you?
Introspection and Internal Perception: I thought it was interesting how Wundt claimed that self-observation was traditional philosophical attempt to analyze life’s experience and it was usually faulty or unsystematic because it usually involved with one’s memory, which can be faulty. I think ones introspection can be faulty more than just their memory about an event that happened, one thing can be either they have too high of a self-esteem or too low of a self-esteem, which can skew their interpretation in the first place. Internal perception I can see where it would be less likely to faulty reality because there is less time for your memory to change, but again one can skew it by their personality.
2a) What did you find interesting?
2b) Why was it interesting to you?
Voluntarism and apperception:
Voluntarism is how the mind actively organizes experiences through an act of will. A concept of voluntarism is apperception which is the way a person can perceive an event fully and have no mistakes with their interpretation of the event. An example is studying for a test or fully paying attention while reading a book, I am interested in this because I would like to learn more about how people slip short of apperception and view a different perception that is out of reality.
3a) What did you find interesting?
3b) Why was it interesting to you?
Retroactive inhibition: I thought this phenomenon was interesting because it makes sense when students try to cram study hours for a test at the last minute won’t work as well as just studying 2 or more hours a day. There is too much information you are trying to focus on and eventually you will forget some of the first or in the middle of what you were trying to study.
4a) What one (1) thing did you find the least interesting?
4b) Why wasn't it interesting to you?
I didn’t really find a topic that was not interesting to me, but if I would have to choose I would say remote associations would be my least interested topic. To me I would not be able to learn or remember very well with a bunch of lists, I would end up getting them confused. I remember images not numbers.
5) What did you read in the chapter that you think will be most useful to in understanding the history of psychology?
I think psychophysics was most useful because it was one of the first times psychologists tried studying how our thought processes changes within the physics of our environment. How sensations can alter our perception. To find how fast our reaction time is with our nerve impulses. Also how our perception changes over time with our memory, it makes me wonder how well we really know the past.
6) How, in what ways, does this chapter relate (build on) to the previous chapters?
The previous chapter was talking about one of the first psychologist studying some problems of perception and reflex actions and how there are different nerves. This chapter got more into depth with how our sensations or perception can be skewed or work in general through different types of thresholds of sensations.
7a) What topic would you like to learn more about?
7b) Why?
Absolute threshold and difference thresholds: I find these pretty interesting because I would like to know more about how these thresholds are influencing our perception of the real world, like a flickering light in a dark alley would make most people probably perceive anyone they can’t tell right away as a threat. I would also like to see the biological processes for these thresholds, what makes us hit an absolute threshold and get use to the light outside, when we first step outside.
8) What ideas related to what you were reading (what did you think about) did you have while reading the chapter?
What I was thinking about the most is how this relates to studying at school and how people can get the wrong perception of a problem and not know if they just remember it wrong or had it wrong going through it in class in the first place. Also I was wondering if there are any newer methods for recalling memory or making memory more readily available.
9) Once you are done with your post make list of the terms and terminology you used in your post.
Introspection
Internal Perception
Voluntarism
Apperception
Retroactive inhibition
Absolute threshold
Difference threshold
Psychophysics
Remote associations
1a) Wilhelm Wundt establishing a new psychology
1b) Wilhelm Wundt is known as the founder of experimental psychology. The book mentions how he may not necessarily been the first person to achieve the goal of discovering experimental psychology, but he was the first to express his work out loud. ‘It’s about who you know, not what you know’ would be an appropriate statement to say about Wundt. Because of his family connections he began to attend the University of Tubingen in medical studies. During his masters program at the University of Heidelberg, he began to become fond of science. Robert Bunsen, the inventor of the Bunsen burner was a man who Wundt looked to for inspiration. Wundt was a man who was interested in research. Wundt is associated with the Leipzig years, but as the book mentions, he was a well-known person well before these times. Publishing three books, and still working to accomplish more, Wundt was working on the New Psychology. His famous work was known as Principles of Physiological Psychology. The book speaks about how psychology was discovered within a laboratory setting. Two specific major programs were studied in the Wundt’s new psychology; studying immediate conscious experience and studying higher mental processes.
2a) James McKeen Cattell
2b) James McKeen Cattell is a well-known student of Wundt who was American. Cattell worked with Gustav Berger on simple, discrimination, and choice reaction times. In early experimental psychology it was common to have only two participants, and in Gustav and Cattell’s case, they were the only two. However, they contributed to what we know as today as the experimenter and the subject or participant. Cattell was the first American to earn a PhD in experimental psychology. He was a man who kept a constant journal. Interestingly enough, these collections of journals have been published and remain as a resourceful book about Wundt’s years and more specifically, Cattell’s research on reaction time.
3a) Herman Ebbinghaus and the study of memory
3b) Though not much is known about Ebbinghaus and how he came to discover Fechner’s Elements of Psychophysics, we know it had a big impact on Ebbinghaus and his further studies. He became interested in studying the formation and retention of associations. His book; Memory: A Contribution to Experimental Psychology, is still used today and appears in our psychology books. It became the main source of the studies for learning and memory. At first he found it difficult to study how individuals learn because of the materials available tended to have meaning to someone and in turn it was easier for the individual to retain the information. However, by using nonsense syllables he was able to use materials that weren’t meaningful at all, which in turn, would be more difficult to learn. Ebbinghaus’s main concern was the associations between syllables, not necessarily the meaning, which went along with the syllables, which sometimes became meaningful because of their sounding like words. He then used serial learning, which the recall consists of accurately stating a set of stimuli in the exact order they were given in the presentation.
4a) Fechner’s Psychophysics
4b) It may be important, but unfortunately, I didn’t believe psychophysics seemed that interesting. The scale Fechner contributed too about sensation wasn’t as important as I thought it sounded at first. The absolute threshold and difference threshold were based on the stimulation. The book used the example of the light getting brighter or dimmer and how the sensation of our stimuli changes, which we would assume anyways.
5) Wundt was the main topic of this chapter. I found it helpful to reflect on all of his accomplishments, though it was difficult to put together such a timeline with all of his true accomplishments. He is a man who accomplished quite a bit, and more than most researchers or scientists do in their career. His theory on new psychology helped us form a solid ground for experimental psychology. Studying directly in the lab and being able to come up with concrete facts is essential when speaking about theories.
6) The previous chapters spoke of questions within the psychology field, and chapter 4 spoke about how these philosophers were finally experimenting in order to answer these questions. In turn, we furthered our contributions within the laboratory and providing facts to the questions that were being asked for years before.
7a) James McKeen Cattell
7b) He was the first American to work alongside Wundt, and knowing how much Wundt has accomplished it is truly amazing that Cattell was able to produce research based on his ideas. Also, with all the journaling Cattell did, I believe it would be easy to trace the steps he took to produce such research.
8) When reading about Ebbinghaus the book mentioned how it was normal for experiments to be done with only two participants, who tended to be the experimenters as well. It seems crazy at this time, knowing we would get a tremendous amount of backlash if we were ever to think about producing research based on a sample of two people.
New Psychology, Cattell, subject, participant, experimenter, experimental psychology, nonsense syllables, serial learning, Wundt, Ebbinghaus, Fechner, psychophysics
1a) What did you find interesting? "Founders are Promoters"
1b) Why was it interesting to you? I found this interesting because it makes sense. Weather or not someone did something amazing, if they promote something new and actively engage in it's creation while simultaneously using propaganda to show it off, they may be labeled as the founder even if they weren't the original person to work with it.
2a) What did you find interesting? "Just noticeable difference"
2b) Why was it interesting to you? I found the jnd interesting because it was the first time we see mathematical properties corresponding with mental processes (aka: that of weight perception).
3a) What did you find interesting? The Fechner Crusade
3b) Why was it interesting to you? I just found it interesting that Fechner was doing great things to help out Psychology unintentionally. It kind of shows how ones work may seem meaningless at the time, but is revolutionary later on in life. So what if he didn't conquer the evil "night viewers," he was a big help to those in the future.
4a) What one (1) thing did you find the least interesting? Internal Perception
4b) Why wasn't it interesting to you? It wasn't that I found it uninteresting, but I don't think the author of this text book said enough about it. I had a little trouble figuring why it was different.
5) What did you read in the chapter that you think will be most useful to in understanding the history of psychology? Once again, the founders are promoters quote. I think that will help me better understand psychological history because there seem to be a lot of people labeled as founders even though what they founded was practiced before them.
6) How, in what ways, does this chapter relate (build on) to the previous chapters? It definitely builds on the last chapter when talking about Fechner's crusade against materialist thought.
7a) What topic would you like to learn more about? Internal Perception
7b) Why? I had trouble figuring out how it was different than the other introspections.
8) What ideas related to what you were reading (what did you think about) did you have while reading the chapter? My biggest thought was once again within the early chapter on Wundt. I wonder how the first World War affected his research (if at all).
9) Once you are done with your post make list of the terms and terminology you used in your post. Immediate Conscious, Internal Perception, Wundt, JND, New Psychology
1) One thing that I found interesting in this chapter was the idea of psychophysics. Psychophysics is “the study of the relationship between the perception of a stimulus event (“psycho”) and the physical dimensions of the stimulus event (“physics”).” I tried for a long time to put that definition in my own words but was unable to. This concept was made known by Ernst Weber and Gustav Fechner. I found this very interesting because I was unaware that there was a crossover between these two concepts. My science career has taught me that physics is the science equivalent to calculus and psychology is more about the why rather than the what.
2) Another concept that I found interesting was Weber’s two-point thresholds. I had to read this section of text twice to understand what was being talked about, but I find this very interesting. The basic concept of this idea was that the more sensitive the area of skin tested, the more likely that the subject could feel two points rather than one even though two were always present. I thought that this was very interesting because everyone “knows” that there are certain areas of the body that are more sensitive than others, but this is a test of where those areas are more specifically.
3) Wundt’s interest in studying higher mental processes was also very interesting. I had never really thought about how things such as thinking, learning, and language could not be tested or examined in a laboratory setting. In my experience, we tested for those things using certain scales or tests. However before those had been created, people like Wundt just had to wing it. After a few successful attempts, one can begin to come up with a methodology which can hopefully be used in the future. If it hadn’t been for people like Wundt who had an interest in studying these things, perhaps it would have been many years before someone else decided to give it a shot.
4) One thing from this chapter that I did not find interesting was the section on mental chronometry. I found this topic boring mostly because it was hard for me to understand and follow. I am not a math person and important parts of this section were the equations.
5) Wundt provided many concepts to this chapter that I think will be very valuable in understanding the history of psychology. Some of it was a bit difficult to read, but it was all very valuable information. Wundt’s ideas and methods of measuring things such as reaction time were very useful in understanding this chapter and the history or psychology that we have learned thus far.
6) I noticed the connection of experimental psychology. Experimental psychology was mentioned frequently in this chapter as it was in the chapter three in reference to Pavlov and his salivating dogs. It also builds upon brief mentions of researchers in pervious chapters
7) I would like to learn more about Ebbinghaus’s idea of serial learning. I think that this would be interesting to research in more detail because it is a rather unique idea. Ideas that are unique for their time are interesting to learn about in comparison to the common practices and beliefs.
8) A moderately irrelevant topics that I considered while reading was that I wished that I wished that I knew how to speak German. This would have been a helpful skill in pronouncing names as well as places or concepts. As it were, I struggled through but probably cannot pronounce them out loud if someone asked.
9) Terms: psychophysics, experimental psychology, Ernst Weber, Gustav Fechner, stimulus, Pavlov, two-point threshold, Wundt, Ebbinghaus, serial learning, mental chronometry
1a) What did you find interesting? 1b) Why was it interesting to you?
This chapter was very interesting to me. It brought out a lot of information that I have never learned before, and made it interesting. One thing in particular that interested me was a unit of psychological measurement discovered by Fechner Gustav. He found absolute threshold as the point where sensation was first noticed. He also found another unit of measurement, the just notable distance above the absolute threshold, which is the difference threshold. The booked explained an example that when you turn on a light, the first glimpse of the flickering of light is the absolute threshold. There is a point where there is a notable difference where the light was just a little bit brighter that it was before; this is the difference threshold.
2a) What did you find interesting? 2b) Why was it interesting to you?
The second thing I found interesting was Ernst Weber’s accomplishments. Weber had two major contributions: he mapped the sensitivity of different locations of the skin, and demonstrating the relationship between physical and psychological mathematically. This mathematical demonstration was known as Weber’s law. Weber also had a very interesting study where he found thetwo-point threshold exists. His study consisted of touching the skin with a device that resembled a two-point drawing compass. He would touch the skin with the points at various distances and discovered that there is a point where a person feels one poke instead of two. He called that two-point threshold. Another thing that interested me about Weber was his concept of jnd (just noticeable difference). He discovered that the jnd depended not on the absolute size of the difference of the weights, but the relationship between the just the noticeable difference and the smaller weight.
3a) What did you find interesting? 3b) Why was it interesting to you?
The last thing I found interesting was a small section at the end of Muller’s contributions. This section mentioned how women had a hard time obtained advanced degrees. The university of Gottingen did not award women with advanced degrees. Even though women were looked down upon when reaching graduate degrees, Muller was ahead of his time and welcomed prestigious women into his laboratory. This section ended with a point demonstrating how women in the United States and Europe especially had trouble obtaining graduate degrees, but Muller recognized that women were highly capable of working in his laboratory.
4a) What one (1) thing did you find the least interesting? 4b) Why wasn't it interesting to you?
The part that I found least interesting was the opening section regarding An education in Germany. There were a few German names that anyone who does not speak the language would butcher completely. It was also hard to get into. While reading the section, I found myself not being able to comprehend the text.
5) What did you read in the chapter that you think will be most useful to in understanding the history of psychology?
I think the most useful information in this chapter was about Wilhelm Wundt. He is an established psychologist and has opened many doors in the field of psychology. He created a new psychology, experimental psychology. His biggest accomplishment of all was founding the first psychological laboratory in the world.
6) How, in what ways, does this chapter relate (build on) to the previous chapters?
This chapter builds on the previous idea of physiological concepts and goes more in depth on how physiological concepts of psychology are turned into experimental psychology and psychophysics.
7a) What topic would you like to learn more about? 7b) Why?
I would like to learn more about Muller’s memory drum. I think it was interesting what resources scientists used without all of the known technology we have today. I would like to know the studies and more of the findings of his research regarding the memory drum. It seems like an interesting concept, and was highly creative.
8) What ideas related to what you were reading (what did you think about) did you have while reading the chapter?
While reading this chapter, and thinking back to previous chapters, I thought about how the book so far has been swarmed with famous men researchers and scientists that formed psychology, but we have not heard much about women. I know women’s rights were an issue back in the time, but it is hard to believe that women were treated so unfairly that many universities did not give them graduate degrees. Muller’s section touched base on women, but I can not wait to see if more women make it in the textbook, once equal rights amongst the sexes starts to take place.
9) Once you are done with your post make list of the terms and terminology you used in your post.
Absolute threshold, difference threshold, Weber’s law, two-point threshold, psychophysics, & memory drum
1a) What did you find interesting?
1b) Why was it interesting to you?
One thing I found interesting was Ernst Weber’s 2-pint threshold. He touched the skins surfave with a device that resembled a two-point drawing compass. The distance between the two varied. The persons task is to say if they are being touched in two places or one. On the skin there is a point where the perception changes from feeling one to feeling two. I think this is interesting because it is something on my body that I never knew about.
2a) What did you find interesting?
2b) Why was it interesting to you?
I also found Webers law interesting. It is weird to think than humans will notice a difference between 30 and 33 grams but not between 60 and 63. It is weird to think that that could be different. It is also interesting to think about how someone decided to look that up and how they discovered it. It is weird to think that we can only discriminate between certain weight, like what is the point of our minds doing that? It is strange!
3a) What did you find interesting?
3b) Why was it interesting to you?
Psychophysics itself is interesting. It is the study of the relationship between the perception of stimulus event and the physical dimensions of the stimulus being perceived. Because of psychophysics there have been many discoveries, such as the method of limits and of constant stimuli and of adjustment. It is interesting because there are so many cool correlations between things and there are so many cool discoveries because of it. It is all beyond what I can think of and it is interesting to read about because it is all new information to me.
4a) What one (1) thing did you find the least interesting?
4b) Why wasn't it interesting to you?
I didn’t find imageless thought to interesting. There is a lot of disagreement with it, including me. I think in images. If I try to remember where I put something I try to picture it in my head. I think it is dumb for someone to come up with an idea about arguing about something that happens to them physically. Its like me saying that colors aren’t real and we all just made them up. I obviously see colors so why would I try to tell people they aren’t real?
5) What did you read in the chapter that you think will be most useful to in understanding the history of psychology?
I think Wilheml Wundt writing new history for psychology obviously had a big impact on psychology and has influenced the way it was shaped, so it is important to know in what ways it has changed psychology so we can understand where the rest of the history is coming from. For example, he founded the first “school” of psychology.
6) How, in what ways, does this chapter relate (build on) to the previous chapters?
The previous chapters have been showing different ways that psychology has been used. They showed that It can be used to study the nervous system, and in this chapter they are showing it can be used for physics. They are building up all the different ways psychology has influenced everyone’s life. It has influenced many different subjects.
7a) What topic would you like to learn more about?
7b) Why?
I think learning more about the memory drum would be cool. I have never heard about it till reading it in this chapter so it would be cool to know a little more information about it. I know that it was based off of stimuli and timing but I didn’t really fully understand the whole purpose of it and the contributions of it.
8) What ideas related to what you were reading (what did you think about) did you have while reading the chapter?
I started to think about all the other discoveries physics has made and I started to wonder how much of it was influenced by psychology, then I started to wonder what else psychology has influenced that I don’t know about. I thought psychology was just its own subject and I didn’t realize that It was used in so many other subjects also.
9) Once you are done with your post make list of the terms and terminology you used in your post.
Ernst Weber, two-point threshold, webers law, psychophysics, imageless thoughts, memory drum
1a) What did you find interesting?
Psychophysics
1b) Why was it interesting to you?
Psychophysics is the study of the relationship between the stimulus event and physical dimensions and how it is all being perceived. Weber came up with the concept of the two-point threshold. This is the point where feeling one change to feeling two. He came up with this idea through a test where he placed a device on the skin and then would have the observer say if it was one or two points they felt. I think this is interesting because it is a simple study like this that Weber came up with this theory of the two point threshold.
2a) What did you find interesting?
Weber’s Law
2b) Why was it interesting to you?
This study was driven by Weber’s interest in muscle sense. He became curious on the humans sense and judgment of weight. Through his experiment Weber came up with more thresholds. Weber also came up with the term JND. This was used in his experience when observers could tell the difference between 31-33 grams instead of 31-32. He found a JND between 31 and 33 grams. I found this section to interesting because I think it would be neat to recreate the same study and see if the same results were found. Would the threshold be the same if repeated?
3a) What did you find interesting?
Wundt’s conception of new psychology
3b) Why was it interesting to you?
This new psychology called for the analysis on the human conscious. To do his research, Wundt used two methods, laboratory methods for immediate conscious experience and non-laboratory methods for higher mental process. Wundt also believed that studying different cultures, religions, customs, and languages could help give an understanding to the evolution process of the mental process in humans. I found this part to be very interesting because I never thought of doing that. I think that we can tell a lot by our surroundings and by our environments and how that affects us mentally.
4a) What one (1) thing did you find the least interesting?
Scientific study aspect
4b) Why wasn't it interesting to you?
Looking at the actual scientific study aspect of studying something I find to be very dry and not interesting. Looking at the numbers and how each step was taken does nothing for me and I don’t think it really teaches me that much. It doesn’t get me brain going at all. It feels like I’m readying the text for the sake of reading the text.
5) What did you read in the chapter that you think will be most useful to in understanding the history of psychology?
Wundt and new psychology
6) How, in what ways, does this chapter relate (build on) to the previous chapters?
I think Wundt’s discoveries have led to other things and I think that his findings have helped lead to other discoveries in psychology. Wundt’s laboratory work has helped shaped experimental psychology.
7a) What topic would you like to learn more about?
Wundt
7b) Why?
I think that it would be interesting to look at more of his studies and findings and how others have maybe built off of what he has done.
8) What ideas related to what you were reading (what did you think about) did you have while reading the chapter?
When going through this chapter this made me think of my some of my basic psychology classes and how we never focused on the history of psychology and how things have changed over time. The things read in the chapters so far are just the basis and beginning of what psychology is.
9) Once you are done with your post make list of the terms and terminology you used in your post.
Psychophysics, two-point threshold, Weber’s law, JND
1a) two-point thresholds
1b) I find two-point thresholds interesting because they are points that examine the sensitivity on our skin. The change in perception from one point to the other is interesting. Ernst Weber mapped out the relative sensitivity of various locations on the skin. The figure in the book on page 96 shows the various locations between them and is fascinating to look at.
2a) Wilhelm Wundt
2b) Wilhelm Wundt accomplishment in creating a new science is very fascinating because he views this whole new type of psychology. It includes the examination of “immediate” conscious experience and the study of higher mental processes. His whole new way of using laboratories and experimental work interests me because that is what we use in today’s world.
3a) Hermann Ebbinghaus
3b) Hermann Ebbinghaus is known for the experimental study of memory. Memory is always an interesting topic of my choice and this study is one that caught my eye. It amazes me how created nonsense syllables and chose serial learning as his task. Through many different tests he found success in all sorts of ways.
4a) An Education in Germany
4b) This section of the chapter was not interesting to me because as I read it nothing stuck out to me. I mostly got out of it that there are many locations of the universities that are relevant for psychology’s history are in Germany.
5) The main thing that I feel will be the most useful to in understanding the history of psychology would be Wilhelm Wundt and his conception of the new psychology. His experimental studies is very useful to today’s science and how we keep retesting the facts.
6) Chapter four names many scientists and their findings. This chapter really digs deeper into their concepts. I feel as though this chapter builds off the previous chapters by displaying all the new sciences and theories that come about.
7a) Wundt’s conception of the New Psychology
7b) I would like to learn more about these two major programs that Wundt’s created. I enjoy his view on experimental studies and his findings in the laboratories. I find mental chronometry interesting and would love to learn more about reaction time.
8) Some names were familiar while I was reading. I found it hard to stay focus during this chapter. I thought Wundt’s new psychology was interesting other than that I didn't really have much thought in this reading as I have in the past.
9) Two-point thresholds. Ernst Weber. Wilhelm Wundt. Immediate conscious experience. Higher mental processes. Mental chronometry. Hermann Ebbinghaus. Nonsense syllables. Serial learning.
1)I have always been interested in Wilhelm Wundt. One reason could be that he makes success look possible for even the worst student due to his terrible grades in his early school years, but I think the main reason that Wundt is so interesting to me personally is due to his studies in perception. His contributions to the physiological side of psychology have greatly influenced the study of sensation and perception (103).
2)Because I thought Wundt was so interesting, I found many of the topics that he studied intriguing as well. One topic that I really enjoyed reading was the topic of the difference between self-observation and internal perception. Self-observation is the reflection on one’s life in a philosophical manner. Wundt rejected self-observation, and stated that it was nothing more than philosophical speculation. Internal perception is similar to self-observation, but was a “narrower process” that required precise stimuli. The difference has become less clear between the two topics as of late, and is now referred to as introspection (104).
3)The third and final concept that I found interesting from chapter four was the concept of apperception. Because I have Attention Deficit Disorder, this phenomenon really interests me. According to Wundt, when you read a page, for example, you are taking in that information primarily. The information that you are read was apperceived. But as I type this blog, I am listening to the football game in the background. That information is in the periphery of my attention and Wundt would say that the information coming from the game is being apprehended (112). Our minds also do something else that is cool with the information that is apperceived. The apperception process allows us to gather information into “meaningful wholes.” The author uses the word dog. When you read that word, you don’t just see the letters D-O-G, you see a whole word that has meaning (113).
4)The topic that I found the least interesting was the discussion of Weber’s Law. I don’t do well with math, and I just lost focus at this point. I see its relevance, and I understand why it was important to Weber; however, I could not sit and do a study as tedious as that one (97).
5)I think the most important part that I read in this chapter was Wundt’s attempt at creating a “new psychology” which used methods that were borrowed from physiology and applied them to the analysis of the human conscious experience (103). I believe that this is important because it marks a significant change in the way that psychology is studied. I think that this will help me understand later psychologists that study the human conscious experience.
6)Chapter three was all about physiology and its impact on psychology with physiologists like Johannes Muller, Hermann Von Helmholtz, and Sir Charles Bell. This chapter builds off of what they discovered about nerves and the brain and expanded those ideas to actual human conscious experiences.
7)The topic that I would like to learn more about would be introspection. I think it would be interesting to see how the definition has changed over the years and understand what self-observation and internal perception means to us as psychologists now.
8)While reading the part about apperception, I really found the concepts of apperception and apprehension very interesting. I began to think of different ways that this could help people with attention problems overcome their difficulties. If focus is apperception, than how can we increase the ability to apperceive and decrease the focus on those things which are in our periphery of our attention?
9)Wilhelm Wundt, sensation and perception, self-observation, internal perception, introspection, apperception, apprehension, Weber’s Law, human conscious experience, Johannes Muller, Hermann Von Helmholtz, Sir Charles Bell
1a) I liked reading about James Cattell; more specifically, the insert containing letters to his parents. It was his day to day life written, giving you insight of what kind of person he was.
1b) I felt it was an honest look into who he was. Instead of reading the history on Cattell, and what he contributed to psychology, you get to see how things were from his point of view. I just like trying to figure people out, being able to read his personal letters helps me do that a bit. It also made me connect with what he did a bit- or is going to make it easier to remember things he’s done.
2a) I liked all the formulas or equations throughout the chapter. These mathematical like formulas are used in the Donders System, the Personal Equation, the Subtraction Method, and the Complication Experiment,
2b) I personally like math and find it interesting to see its place in psychology. Other than statistical conclusions, I haven’t seen the use of math in psychology. I like being able to plug things in and get an answer, and it’s neat getting to see it being used this way in this area.
3a) The book discusses how history in psychology has been kind of messed up in the past. More so, what we’ve learned about Wilhelm Wundt in the past. Like history in general, we revise our books and what we teach often, as new things come to light. So it was not odd that this happened in psychology. Unlike some things, they were actually able to trace back where things went wrong in the teachings of Wundt. Most of what we know about Wundt comes from E.G Boring, who learned his information from his teacher of two years, Titchner. Titchner was a student of Wundt, and spread Wundt’s work in a particular way that suited what he thought was most and least important. Basically, what Titchner thought was important and interesting was made more important in history, and what he didn’t care about was left behind.
3b) I thought this was interesting because I don’t know if this kind of thing is discussed in history books. Bringing up histories flaws, stating possibly what is going to be in the book is wrong. I like that honesty. I’ve always questioned things, even if they’re taught in schools out of textbooks, so I like that there’s a whole section discussing how it’s gone wrong in Wundt’s case.
4a) What one (1) thing did you find the least interesting?
4b) Why wasn't it interesting to you?
5) The overall information on experimental psychology. Wilhelm Wundt’s contribution to psychology paved the way to study different fields of psychology which got us where we are today. Without the studies in the various fields we would be unable to know what we know today. I think it’s important to know where these theories came from in order to continue on with new ones.
6) Last chapter had a lot to do with the biological aspects of psychology and its founders. We went over the brain and the new discoveries that went on with it. I feel this went for a turn in one way, while still continuing on. While we weren’t discussing biological aspects per say, we did continue on with the theories and experiments in the psychological field. Psychophysics was brought into this chapter, which according to our text is “the perception of the stimulus and the physical dimensions being perceived.” This to me is a continuation of biological psychology.
7a) I would like to learn more about Wilhelm Wundt. Particularly what was taught about him in the past to what we’re learning about him today. As well as what contributions were brought forward or meant to be of utmost importance in the past compared to now. I’m sure a lot of other people are going to say the same thing- and I would usually like to pick something not everybody else chooses, but I honestly would like to know more about him.
7b) I think mostly because his history is a bit flawed, or hasn’t come across right in textbooks in the past. The author of this textbook could only share so much, so I think it would be good to find additional research on him to see what else I could find that wasn’t in this text. I’ve always learned his contributions to psychology were so great but haven’t really done any research on him outside of that.
8) This chapter was one of the more interesting chapters we’ve covered so far; the last two being my favorite. I feel like we are just now starting to actually get into psychology and aren’t pushing it into the past too far, almost digging to make it seem it’s dated further back than it really has. That being said- this chapter made me think more about things I’ve learned in other psychology classes. People’s names came up that I remember reading about- or rather remember their names not what they’ve done. And I thought a bit about my biology of psychology, because the experiments had a biological like basis.
9) Terms: subtraction method, complication experiment, personal equation, psychophysics, Wilhelm Wundt, James Cattell,
1a) What did you find interesting?
I thought it was interesting how many universities are in Germany. I guess I just kind of figured that since the country was so small, they’d only have a handful of universities, just like Iowa only has 3 major universities.
1b) Why was it interesting to you?
I found this interesting, because there is so much I don’t know about European countries, and I have ancestors in Germany, so this whole chapter was pretty interesting, and made me kind of proud of my German heritage, though I doubt I’m actually related to any of the people that the book discusses. I also thought it was pretty cool that Germany was really the foundation for a lot of scientific research and study, called Wissenschaft, and it just surprises me that most of what we know about scientific research and theory comes from Germany. I also thought it was really interesting that many American students went to study in Leipzig and under Wundt.
2a) What did you find interesting?
Psychophysics was interesting to me. Psychophysics is the study of the relationship between the perception of a stimulating event and the physical dimensions of the stimulus. Ernst Weber was a huge part of psychophysics and his two major contributions were mapping the sensitivity of various spots on the skin, and giving us a mathematical formula to demonstrate the relationship between the psychological and the physical known as Weber’s Law. The sensitivity was measured by using the two-point threshold, which is the point where the perception changes from one point to another point, and that there is a gap between these two points, although on some areas of the body, this gap is much smaller or bigger, depending on the area’s sensitivity.
2b) Why was it interesting to you?
This was interesting to me because I did not know that there was a gap between points of sensitivity, I just thought that there was nerve endings all throughout your body, and that they were touching each other as well. I also have heard about Weber’s Law briefly before, but did not really know to what extent it was important. The book talks about how Weber’s Law was important in three ways: to measure mental events mathematically, that there was not a one-to-one relationship between physical changes and psychological experience, and that mental and physical events can be related mathematically.
3a) What did you find interesting?
I thought that the little insert titled an American in Leipzig was interesting. This was about James McKeen Cattell, the first American to earn a PhD in experimental psychology under Wundt. While there, he kept a journal and was in correspondence with his parents regularly. He did research on reaction time, and he writes to his parents about being a subject in his own studies, as well as the struggles faced when working in a new science. Cattell, in one of his last letters, tells his parents about how he thought that Wundt’s lab was not nearly as spectacular as its reputation, and that he did nearly half of the work that the lab had produced, and that he started this work at John Hopkins.
3b) Why was it interesting to you?
At first, I was interested in what an American take on German Psychology was going to be like, but I quickly realized this was not the case, and then I became more interested in it because of the passage at the bottom, where Cattell just completely bashes the lab and Wundt’s life work. I find this fascinating, because we saw this in Chapter 3 with Mueller as well, and I just find it very hard to believe that these scientists could become so disillusioned and downright loathing of their mentors. I guess I’ve been disillusioned by mentors before, but I tend to keep that to myself, so I find it really interesting that these people (especially in the case of Mueller) were so willing to publically bash their mentors. I wonder if that can be attributed to a high stress work environment, or if it is something else entirely.
4a) What one (1) thing did you find the least interesting?
The history and how wrong it is of Wundt and why it needed to be re-written.
4b) Why wasn't it interesting to you?
I mean, it was interesting, but I feel like I didn’t need to know that; the information wasn’t nearly as relevant as it was maybe in the 80s or 90s, when the things had started changing. I would have preferred if they left that part of the chapter out. But I did think it was interesting, just not relevant or necessary. When I read, I like things to be brief so that I can get through it faster (I don’t get a lot of free time, so I try to rush through readings as much as possible).
5) What did you read in the chapter that you think will be most useful to in understanding the history of psychology?
I thought learning about psychophysics was really important, because it was sort of the last stepping stone that was put in place for psychology to be born into its own real science.
6) How, in what ways, does this chapter relate (build on) to the previous chapters?
This chapter definitely builds upon chapter one with the way that it talks about Wundt and how it is good to sometimes go back and re-examine things, because history is something that can be rewritten as more and more information is discovered or inquired about. Wundt is great example of what we learned about in Chapter 1, because he wrote a lot of stuff of his own, and since it’s very dense and hadn’t been translated, it was very hard for people to read and interpret, so many people read second or third accounts of what he did.
7a) What topic would you like to learn more about?
I’d like to learn more about ecological memory, or memory that is more realistic every day events rather than abstract lists, when it comes to researching memory.
7b) Why?
I thought this was interesting, because I have seen videos of some of the earlier studies (like the remote associations) and I feel that ecological memory would be a lot more accurate than remote associations and strange syllables. The chapter doesn’t really talk about it very much, and so I think I’d like to dig a bit deeper into it.
8) What ideas related to what you were reading (what did you think about) did you have while reading the chapter?
Well, at first, I was thinking about how awesome it was that Germany used to be this really successful scientific place, and how come we didn’t know that? And then I was thinking that most people in this day and age really probably only associate Germany with Oktoberfest and WWII. And maybe their chocolate, but that’s it. And I find it incredibly sad that we don’t know more about the kinds of places that really helped push us in a greater direction given that they don’t teach us a bit of this at the high school level, and that maybe this is one of the subjects that should be taught. Next, I was thinking about how horrible it is that some of these young bright students working under these great men could be so harsh and rude when it comes to their mentors and critique them so negatively, and why do they do that? Is it because of a high stress environment, or because of something else? Maybe the mentors were just totally full of themselves and jerks, or maybe it was the students, I’m not sure. That would also be something interesting to look into, but I doubt there is much that you could find on that subject.
9) Once you are done with your post make list of the terms and terminology you used in your post.
Wissenschaft, Wundt, Psychophysics, Ernst Weber, Two-Point Thresholds, Weber’s Law, James McKeen Cattell, ecological memory
Sorry, it got posted twice somehow!
1a) What did you find interesting?
I thought it was interesting how many universities are in Germany. I guess I just kind of figured that since the country was so small, they’d only have a handful of universities, just like Iowa only has 3 major universities.
1b) Why was it interesting to you?
I found this interesting, because there is so much I don’t know about European countries, and I have ancestors in Germany, so this whole chapter was pretty interesting, and made me kind of proud of my German heritage, though I doubt I’m actually related to any of the people that the book discusses. I also thought it was pretty cool that Germany was really the foundation for a lot of scientific research and study, called Wissenschaft, and it just surprises me that most of what we know about scientific research and theory comes from Germany. I also thought it was really interesting that many American students went to study in Leipzig and under Wundt.
2a) What did you find interesting?
Psychophysics was interesting to me. Psychophysics is the study of the relationship between the perception of a stimulating event and the physical dimensions of the stimulus. Ernst Weber was a huge part of psychophysics and his two major contributions were mapping the sensitivity of various spots on the skin, and giving us a mathematical formula to demonstrate the relationship between the psychological and the physical known as Weber’s Law. The sensitivity was measured by using the two-point threshold, which is the point where the perception changes from one point to another point, and that there is a gap between these two points, although on some areas of the body, this gap is much smaller or bigger, depending on the area’s sensitivity.
2b) Why was it interesting to you?
This was interesting to me because I did not know that there was a gap between points of sensitivity, I just thought that there was nerve endings all throughout your body, and that they were touching each other as well. I also have heard about Weber’s Law briefly before, but did not really know to what extent it was important. The book talks about how Weber’s Law was important in three ways: to measure mental events mathematically, that there was not a one-to-one relationship between physical changes and psychological experience, and that mental and physical events can be related mathematically.
3a) What did you find interesting?
I thought that the little insert titled an American in Leipzig was interesting. This was about James McKeen Cattell, the first American to earn a PhD in experimental psychology under Wundt. While there, he kept a journal and was in correspondence with his parents regularly. He did research on reaction time, and he writes to his parents about being a subject in his own studies, as well as the struggles faced when working in a new science. Cattell, in one of his last letters, tells his parents about how he thought that Wundt’s lab was not nearly as spectacular as its reputation, and that he did nearly half of the work that the lab had produced, and that he started this work at John Hopkins.
3b) Why was it interesting to you?
At first, I was interested in what an American take on German Psychology was going to be like, but I quickly realized this was not the case, and then I became more interested in it because of the passage at the bottom, where Cattell just completely bashes the lab and Wundt’s life work. I find this fascinating, because we saw this in Chapter 3 with Mueller as well, and I just find it very hard to believe that these scientists could become so disillusioned and downright loathing of their mentors. I guess I’ve been disillusioned by mentors before, but I tend to keep that to myself, so I find it really interesting that these people (especially in the case of Mueller) were so willing to publically bash their mentors. I wonder if that can be attributed to a high stress work environment, or if it is something else entirely.
4a) What one (1) thing did you find the least interesting?
The history and how wrong it is of Wundt and why it needed to be re-written.
4b) Why wasn't it interesting to you?
I mean, it was interesting, but I feel like I didn’t need to know that; the information wasn’t nearly as relevant as it was maybe in the 80s or 90s, when the things had started changing. I would have preferred if they left that part of the chapter out. But I did think it was interesting, just not relevant or necessary. When I read, I like things to be brief so that I can get through it faster (I don’t get a lot of free time, so I try to rush through readings as much as possible).
5) What did you read in the chapter that you think will be most useful to in understanding the history of psychology?
I thought learning about psychophysics was really important, because it was sort of the last stepping stone that was put in place for psychology to be born into its own real science.
6) How, in what ways, does this chapter relate (build on) to the previous chapters?
This chapter definitely builds upon chapter one with the way that it talks about Wundt and how it is good to sometimes go back and re-examine things, because history is something that can be rewritten as more and more information is discovered or inquired about. Wundt is great example of what we learned about in Chapter 1, because he wrote a lot of stuff of his own, and since it’s very dense and hadn’t been translated, it was very hard for people to read and interpret, so many people read second or third accounts of what he did.
7a) What topic would you like to learn more about?
I’d like to learn more about ecological memory, or memory that is more realistic every day events rather than abstract lists, when it comes to researching memory.
7b) Why?
I thought this was interesting, because I have seen videos of some of the earlier studies (like the remote associations) and I feel that ecological memory would be a lot more accurate than remote associations and strange syllables. The chapter doesn’t really talk about it very much, and so I think I’d like to dig a bit deeper into it.
8) What ideas related to what you were reading (what did you think about) did you have while reading the chapter?
Well, at first, I was thinking about how awesome it was that Germany used to be this really successful scientific place, and how come we didn’t know that? And then I was thinking that most people in this day and age really probably only associate Germany with Oktoberfest and WWII. And maybe their chocolate, but that’s it. And I find it incredibly sad that we don’t know more about the kinds of places that really helped push us in a greater direction given that they don’t teach us a bit of this at the high school level, and that maybe this is one of the subjects that should be taught. Next, I was thinking about how horrible it is that some of these young bright students working under these great men could be so harsh and rude when it comes to their mentors and critique them so negatively, and why do they do that? Is it because of a high stress environment, or because of something else? Maybe the mentors were just totally full of themselves and jerks, or maybe it was the students, I’m not sure. That would also be something interesting to look into, but I doubt there is much that you could find on that subject.
9) Once you are done with your post make list of the terms and terminology you used in your post.
Wissenschaft, Wundt, Psychophysics, Ernst Weber, Two-Point Thresholds, Weber’s Law, James McKeen Cattell, ecological memory
1a) What did you find interesting?
An Education in Germany
1b) Why was it interesting to you?
I really want to study abroad somewhere in Europe. I have a lot of German blood in my family, so I have thought about going there. I thought it was cool that two hundred years ago, people were doing the same thing. Although it was not fully established as a country yet, many scholars traveled there to study psychology at one of the numerous universities. Because of all of the progress made in psychology in 19th century Germany, I’m sure there would be added historical value of studying abroad there.
2a) What did you find interesting?
Ernst Weber and Two-Point Thresholds
2b) Why was it interesting to you?
I remember learning about Weber in my intro class, but he was only mentioned briefly when discussing Weber’s Law. I was more interested in his discovery of the two-point threshold. During his experiments, Weber used a compass with two points and applied pressure on a person’s body in different places while the person was blindfolded. The distance between the two points would vary. The subject then had to figure out if one or two of the points were being applied.
To explain two-point thresholds, Weber came up with the term “sensory circles”. The circles, or hexagons rather, each connected to a sensory nerve. If both points of the compass were touching a part of the skin within one of the sensory circles, the subject would only feel one point of pressure. If the points were touching two separate sensory circles, the subject would feel both points separately. Weber’s model of sensory circles, although flawed, would later help scientists figure out tactile senses.
3a) What did you find interesting?
Wundt and Studying Immediate Conscious Experience
3b) Why was it interesting to you?
I am currently learning about Freud in another one of my classes, so when I saw the word “conscious”, I wanted to read more.
Self-observation, according to Wundt, is the attemps to study life ecperiences through thoughtful reflection. This tended to be faulty because it relied on memory which isn’t always reliable. In contrast, internal perception could be studied easier because the observation could be recorded right after the stimuli was presented. However, unless results from studying internal perception could be replicated, the data would be invalid.
4a) What one (1) thing did you find the least interesting?
Other Contributions by Ebbinghaus
4b) Why wasn't it interesting to you?
I wasn’t super into this section. Although the information kind of related to the chapter, the paragraph lists facts that are just extra little things I probably won’t remember.
5) What did you read in the chapter that you think will be most useful to in understanding the history of psychology?
I think that learning about Wilhlem Wundt will be very beneficial later on. Wundt had the first “New Psychology” lab, so he was one of the first guys that put psychology on a modernized path.
6) How, in what ways, does this chapter relate (build on) to the previous chapters?
Chapters two and three discussed the development of psychology in the early 1800s. This chapter continues talking about the developments but specifically gets into scientific psychology in Germany towards the end of the 19th century.
7a) What topic would you like to learn more about?
Wilhelm Wundt
7b) Why?
He was one of the main focuses of the chapter and was a very important figure of psychology during his time. More specifically, I want to learn more about his studies of sensation and perception. I find this interesting because I want to learn about how people react to stimuli in different ways.
8) What ideas related to what you were reading (what did you think about) did you have while reading the chapter?
When reading about Weber’s sensory circles, it made me think about the idea of perception. Every person is different. Because of that, everyone's senses are different. When Weber was doing this study, people weren’t really aware of all the millions of differences one person had compared to another.
9) Once you are done with your post make list of the terms and terminology you used in your post.
Ernst Weber, two-point thresholds, Weber’s law, sensory circles, tactile senses, Wundt, self-observation, internal perception
1a)Immediate Conscious Experience
1b)This was interesting because it was a different way to think of something, especially for people of Wundt's time. How it was explained basically was the that there is a difference between seeing something and expecting a result, such as seeing people playing in water and being wet, than there is of actually experiencing something, such as jumping in the water and becoming wet yourself. The fact that so many people of that time didn't realize that there is a whole other way of thinking and interpreting what is going on around you is interesting to me. It sparked a whole new idea of almost perception isn't always reality, there is a difference between what you see and what is actually occurring.
2a)Hermann Ebbinghaus and Memory
2b)It was interesting what he did when it came to memory, Ebbinghaus observed that people could not memorize poems and syllables and that sparked his interest. In the spark he created a system using nonsense syllables or CVCs (p115) in order to help people remember things. This is interesting because it is almost how I think at times, when I know that I am reading something that I need to remember I usually relate it to something that really has nothing to do with the subject but I know that once I see the word it will instantly spark an idea that will lead to me remembering what that subject is related to. Using a form of association in order to connect things for people to remember is amazing because it really does help a lot of people and the fact that he started the process of association and memorization through other learning tools is interesting and helps so many people today.
3a)Oswald Kulpe and his experiment with memory recall
3b)It was interesting to me because he took regular people and presented them with something small, such as pictures and then later asked them to recall certain events or even the later study of measuring their reactions to different things related to an experience. The fact that the study was rejected was bad because there was much to learn from the experiment about how memory can change, such as the imageless memory. Looking at something is not always a visual thing but rather there are times when it is a mental observation while watching someone instead of a vision in one's own head or memory. Memory is a very complicated thing to learn and more and more studies of it show that there are different reactions and different perceptions from people. In the different layers people all observe and absorb what is going on around them differently and that is what Kulpe was attempting to show, the problem was that Wauldt denied the experiment because it was something different and something he deemed to be unmeasurable so therefore it was not true.
4a)Ernst Weber
4b) It was more the part with the experiments of noticing if the subjects noticed differences between different things. I was a little interesting that it was such small differences that were actually noticed but it was just really hard to get because it was drawn out a little and dry, I didn't really get why he was so interested in this and what the outcomes of the experiment were actually for or to prove. I get that people are observant and all but at the same time I was really not interesting what he did for psychology.
5)I think just learning about how the basics of perception and reality are something that should be noted when it comes to understanding different aspects of psychology. The fact that something may appear different doesn't actually make it different and at times the brain will tell the rest of the organs/senses that something is one thing when in reality it isn't even close to what your mind is telling you. The mind is a very strong component of every individual and understanding what it does, how it absorbs and what it allows you to do and see is something worth learning.
6)This chapter builds on the previous chapter in the means that the earlier chapters were more about getting to the brain, how outside things such as bumps on the skull were created from the brain and the difference between peoples brain makeup. Now we are to where we are discovering what the brain actually does, how it perceives things and creates ideas as well as memories for a person to recall and use for the future.
7a)Immediate Conscious
7b)I would like to learn more about this topic because it is interesting to think about the different things that are absorbed while a person is conscious. Where do those observations go and become part of the unconscious, perception is reality but what will influence perception to become reality. The conscious is something that is very complex but at the same time what creates the consciousness to influence the unconsciousness.
8)While reading I was thinking about some of the things that I learned in my intro to psychology class, such as when children are younger and their perceptions change as they grow. Things like when they see a bowl of water and a tall glass of water containing equal amounts of water, to a certain age the child will always tell you that the taller glass contains more water because it is taller so therefore there is more. Perception is a thing that just continues to grow, because then you look at the different experiments throughout the chapter such as the finger prick sensations as well as the observations of how memories are created. Perception is something that continues to grow over time, but how it is so clear as a child and ignored as an adult came to mind.
Terms: Ernst Weber, Immediate Conscious, Herman Ebbinghaus, nonsense syllables, Oswald Kulpe,
1a) What did you find interesting?
Weber’s Law
1b) Why was it interesting to you?
It was nice to see something I had learned two years ago in AP Psychology pop up in one of my college courses, since I did not need to take Intro to Psych. The section in our book had expressed the actual importance of Weber’s law, instead of just memorizing the vocabulary and learning the differences in between difference threshold and absolute threshold.
2a) What did you find interesting?
Wilhelm Wundt
2b) Why was it interesting to you?
I find it ironic that although the books says that “if you were to take a history of psychology course about 40 years ago, you would have learned that Wundt founded the first ‘school of psychology’ called structuralism” was the exact line I had memorized for the AP Psychology exam. The other points stated in our book had followed suit, and Wundt’s work had seemed to be downplayed over the course of time.
3a) What did you find interesting?
Retroactive Inhibition
3b) Why was it interesting to you?
I had taken a course online on test-taking, and the professor talks about how our memory tends to remember the beginning and the ending of reading material, so he suggests that we read in 20 minute sections with small 5 minute breaks (pomodoro technique) in order for us to properly digest the material without wasted effort. I’ve always tried to learn multiple things at once and seeing the phenomenon being pointed out makes me question whether or not my habit is beneficial to me.
4a) What one (1) thing did you find the least interesting?
Early life of Psychologists
4b) Why wasn't it interesting to you?
I can see the need to know about the past of certain famous psychologists in order to see their motives for their research topics of choice, but I feel that some of the information included such as prior education and previous professions, although it’s nice to see how diverse incoming psychologists are, are sometimes unnecessary filler information.
5) What did you read in the chapter that you think will be most useful to in understanding the history of psychology?
Nothing really stuck out to me in terms of specific topics as I was familiar with a few of the terms prior to reading due to a past psychology course, but it is nice to see psychology transition from an abstract collection of theories to a more physical, scientific social science.
6) How, in what ways, does this chapter relate (build on) to the previous chapters?
After explaining the purpose, the chapters continue to lay down the philosophical and physiological foundations that were necessary for psychology to emerge as a topic of interest. As time went on, people became skeptic of psychology due to its nature of abstract hypothesis. During Wundt’s and Ebbinhaus’ era, they had embarked on research projects that had created a scientific foundation for experimental study in Psychology, creating institutions and more opportunities for people to obtain a true understanding of psychology as a science, and help in its advancement.
7a) What topic would you like to learn more about?
Retroactive Inhibition
7b) Why?
When I read assignments or rather receive any information, regardless of relevance, I always aim to apply it to myself in hopes of refining certain habits or techniques and ultimately, becoming a better version of myself. I hope that the knowledge obtained about retroactive inhibition will aid in my memorization and retention skills.
8) What ideas related to what you were reading (what did you think about) did you have while reading the chapter?
In regards to Wundt’s work being rewritten in history, I thought about how terrible collegeboard is and how the Advance Placement program has digressed. It is now a matter of learning as much information possible in a shortened amount of time, regardless of whether or not how accurate or how clear the internalization is, and being able to spit it back out on the exam at the end of the year - the grade had become more important than the lesson.
9) Once you are done with your post make list of the terms and terminology you used in your post.
Wilhelm Wundt, Retroactive Inhibition, Ebbinghaus, physiological, philosophical, Weber’s Law, absolute threshold, difference threshold, structuralism
1. The First Topic I found interesting was the section on Ernst Weber. Ernst weber was German professor of anatomy and physiology at the University of Leipzig. His major impact on psychology came when he started to study and measure tactile sensations. His first major contribution was known as the idea of the Two-Point Threshold. This phenomena is when you reach the threshold from feeling just one unified sense of touch to feeling two distinct points of touch. In a realm of the body such as the upper arm you can be touched in two distinct places and if they are close enough together you feel just one sense of touch. If the two touches are spaced out enough you will feel two distinct points of contact. Weber started to measure the distance between these points to find the thresholds. His other major contribution was named Weber’s Law. Weber discovered that there was a mathematical limit between distinguishing between two different weights. For example if someone were to life something that was 30 grams and then something that was 32 grams that person would not be able to tell the difference between the weights. But, if someone picked up something that was 30 grams and something that was 33 grams they would because this is the threshold of what he called a just noticeable difference or JND. The smaller of the weights he deemed S or for the “standard stimulus”. His full equation is JND/S=K. His discoveries came before the science of psychophysics was jumpstarted but his methods were psychophysical.
1b. I found this to be interesting because I have never heard of Ernst weber and I have never heard of either of his contributions to psychophysics. It is always interesting to come across something new even after studying psychology for the last three years. In general, I know very little about psychophysics and had no idea what it really meant before reading this chapter.
2. The Next section I found to be interesting was the section on Gustav Fechner. The overview of Gustav Fechner’s life was very interesting. He was a very smart and ambitious man who started attending the University of Leipzig when he was 16. He got his medical degree but never did wind up practicing medicine. He is known for pioneering the study of psychophysics and his first realm of study was in the perception of afterimages, which are the images that persist after being exposed to a bright light source. He found that the longer you are exposed to a light source the longer the afterimages lasted. He did his experiments on himself by staring at the sun for varying amounts of time. This eventually led to him becoming essentially blind for a long period of time. He became prone to severe headaches and anxiety which eventually led him slipping into psychosis for a period of time which caused him to lose his job. He eventually started to slowly recover and got his job back. He started to pursue and immersed himself in the subject matter of the mind vs. body problem, which was talked about in the last chapter. He officially sparked the field of psychophysics when one day he woke up and came up with the idea that he could unify the mind-body problem by not only measuring sensations but by also measuring the physical stimuli that caused the sensations in conjunction.
2b. I found this section interesting primarily because Fechner did a lot of his experiments on himself. Through his work he caused himself to become blind. If that was not crazy enough he slipped into psychosis, became better, and started the field of psychophysics. Pretty impressive stuff.
3. The next thing I found to be interesting was the section on Hermann Ebbinghaus. Fechner’s study of psycholinguistics fueled Ebbinghaus to study memory using the experimental method. He recognized the extreme difficulty of studying memory, as at this time period not much was known about it, but he was determined to find a way to convincingly measure a human’s capacity to remember things. He realized that he could not use things such poems or songs to look at to remember in his studies because these things have meaning behind them which could make it easier for someone to remember. So, Ebbinghaus created what is known as nonsense syllables, or a three letter block that consisted of two consonants with a vowel in the middle. This nonsense syllable held no meaning and therefore a participant could not attribute much meaning to it, which made these nonsense syllables a sort of equalizer. He dedicated two years of his life studying these 2300 nonsense syllables he created. His finding were that after only 1 repetitions a person could recall a series of seven. To recall a series of 12 nonsense syllable one needed about 17 repetitions. The more syllables the more time someone needed to review the syllables. This is pretty astounding considering that up until this time no one had figured out a way to affectively measure memory capacity.
3b. I found this interesting because I took a memory and language course last semester and we briefly talked about Ebbinghaus’ findings. But, up until now I really did not know how he came to these findings.
4. The one person I did not find to be really interesting in the text was the part on Wilhelm Wundt. Wilhelm Wundt was not a really exceptional person until later in his life. He did not accomplish much in his early years and he really was not a good student. The book says that only reason he got accepted in to medical school was because of his family ties. He did however start to blossom in college and went on to become a huge figure in experimental psychology. Just as his career was about to blossom he came down with an illness that took him a year to recover from. He made his career from writing books and experimenting in the labs at Heidelberg. He also spent a great deal of the latter half of his life doing experiments at Leipzig where he created experimental psychology’s first laboratory.
4b. Wundt made some astounding discoveries and is a huge name in the field of experimental psychology but I did not find his background, or what he studied to be as intriguing as some of the other people I talked about.
5. The one thing that I read in this chapter that I think will be the most useful to understanding the history of psychology is how the senses and perceptions came to be studied and measured. It seems as if one after another in this time period these people discovered a way to do something no one else had before, measure and experiment with sensations and perceptions. Understanding how they did this I think is very useful and informative.
6. This chapter seems to build on a whole new subject matter in psychology by giving us the same informative and unbiased style of presentation used in the previous chapters.
7a. I would like to learn more about Fechner and his studies.
7b. Fechner went to extremes to find out the things he was curious about and I think that that is fascinating and I’m sure there is a lot of interesting material out there that elaborates on his studies.
8 I thought about how interesting it is that all these amazing findings came from one place, Germany. What was it about the time period and the minds of people in Germany that led to these discoveries and experiments one after the other? Why wasn’t there this kind of growth in this particular realm of psychology in other nations?
9. Psychophysics, Two-point threshold, Weber’s Law, jnd, threshold, nonsense syllables.
1a) What did you find interesting?
The first point I found interesting was the development of education called Wissenschaft.
1b) Why was it interesting to you?
I found this idea to be very interesting because two summers ago, I lived in Germany and knew their schooling to be different now, but I did not know how far back their education system has differed from ours. I also thought that this idea of studying psychology from a more scientific approach ties in with what I am becoming more familiar with in my research methods class. I am also fond of this idea of because I believe that giving professors and students alike, the ability to study their specific interests, would lead to a much richer learning environment, and much less narrow-mindedness.
2a) What did you find interesting?
The second thing I found to be interesting was Gustav Fechner and his contributions to psychology.
2b) Why was it interesting to you?
In past chapters I found the study of the mind-body problem to be very interesting. The idea that Gustav wanted to solve this problem was also very interesting to me as well. I would like to know more about his idea and discovery of psychophysics, to know if he used his studies on afterimages to develop the thought of what your physically see (looking at light) can affect what you see as the after image when you look away (mind).
3a) What did you find interesting?
The third thing I found to be interesting was Wundt’s studies on consciousness and experience.
3b) Why was it interesting to you?
I thought it was interesting that Wundt said self-observation was unsystematic because they rely on deceptive memory, due to the amount of time between after the specific event. To eliminate the time between event and reflection, Wundt came up with a more reliable process he called, internal perception. This new way of observing was much more controlled due to the subjects being trained on how to respond in the least amount of time to specific stimuli, and completely unbiased. Although this process eliminated the barrier of false memory, it could not be proved as acceptable research unless it could be proven again. I found this to be very interesting because if the same students were used for all the experiments, they would have inter-rater reliability, but how would this represent a whole population?
4a) What one (1) thing did you find the least interesting?
Not one particular thing stood out to me in this chapter as, uninteresting. One thing that was very repetitive, to me specifically was the section on Herman Ebbinghaus.
4b) Why wasn't it interesting to you?
A few weeks ago I did my topical blog on Ebbinghaus, thus making the information presented in this chapter very similar to what I had spent researching previously. I still think his work on memory and associations are extremely important to our research today and though I still find them interesting, it was just repetitive for me.
5) What did you read in the chapter that you think will be most useful to in understanding the history of psychology?
I think this chapter was a good representation of how similar experiments are and how little they differ, but the findings can be huge contributions in the end. I think its important to understand that not every experiment has to be a huge breakthrough, but building off of what the founders were interested in and applying it to what we know today, we can continue to make important connections in the psychological world.
6) How, in what ways, does this chapter relate (build on) to the previous chapters?
One thing I think specifically built on previous chapters was Ernst Weber’s, work on two-point thresholds. Much like chapter three’s section on phrenology, I think the Weber’s work on how sensitive certain spots on our body were, correlate with specific parts of our brain controlling different areas of our body. I also think building more on scientists I found interesting in previous chapters (ex. Herman Ebbinghaus) was helpful in fully understanding what contributions he made in the science of psychology.
7a) What topic would you like to learn more about?
I would like to learn more about psychophysics in general and how they are relevant to more modern work.
7b) Why?
I understand the studies and findings of Weber and Fechner, but I would like to know more about how their studies have been applied to work today.
8) What ideas related to what you were reading (what did you think about) did you have while reading the chapter?
I thought about if Fechner’s work on after-images is the basis for our TA’s thesis for grad school, and wanted to know how it really contributes to psychology today and what new findings are being collected from it. I also thought about how I wish I would have taken this class earlier, so that while living in Germany (one train stop away from Wurzberg) I could have visited more places and appreciated psychology where so much of it started.
Terms: Wissenschaft, Gustav Fechner, mind-body problem, psychophysics, afterimages, Wilhelm Wundt, self-observation, internal perception, Herman Ebbinghaus, two-point thresholds
1a) What did you find interesting?
Two-Point Thresholds
1b) Why was it interesting to you?
I already knew that different parts of your body had different levels of sensitivity, but to understand that someone tested this was interesting. I tried to replicate the test just a bit after reading about it. There was defiantly a difference in being able to differentiate two points being touched on my shoulder than on my thumbs.
2a) What did you find interesting?
Webster's Law
2b) Why was it interesting to you?
I thought this study was because Webster found the JND to be 30 to 33, 60 to 66, and 90 to 99 and so on. After thinking about it, the study actual makes a lot of sense and i think it would be fun to try to replicate.
3a) What did you find interesting?
Wilhelm Wundt
3b) Why was it interesting to you?
I believe I have heard of Wundt before, but I have not actually read about him before, which I thought was interesting since he is thought to be the founder of experimental psychology. I think it would be interesting to learn more about him.
4a) What one (1) thing did you find the least interesting?
I just feel as though learning some of the early life facts about psychologists are unneeded. Maybe for some psychologist it is important to understand what happened in early life, but I just do not find it very interesting.
5) What did you read in the chapter that you think will be most useful to in understanding the history of psychology?
I think the important part of this chapter is the different studies of perceptions.
6) How, in what ways, does this chapter relate (build on) to the previous chapters?
The previous chapters discussed memory and personality and how the brain is effected by certain concepts, and this chapters builds form that.
7a) What topic would you like to learn more about?
Wilhelm Wundt. I think he had a lot of good ideas and it would be interesting to learn more about his life.
9) Once you are done with your post make list of the terms and terminology you used in your post.
two-thumb threshold, JND, Websters law, Wundt, psychologists,perceptions
I thought it was really interesting that during the 19th century a lot of Americans traveled to Germany to study different approaches to psychology. I had absolutely no idea that psychology was very big in Germany, I always thought it was more of an American, French, and British study. It amazed me that Germany was the center of education for a decade especially with how many universities they had and that many of those were prestigious. I thought it was impressive that it was Germany who promoted how important original research is and even giving professors and scientist’s academic freedom to research whatever they wanted to.
Wilhelm Wundt was a very big deal in the field of experimental psychology. I thought the entire section of this chapter on him was very interesting. Ever since I took AP Psychology in high school which stressed a lot about Wundt, his name became extremely common. He was the founder of experimental psychology in which the procedures from physiology aimed at understanding the immediate conscious experience and studying higher mental processes. To examine immediate conscious experience Wundt used experimental methods of the laboratory and non-laboratory methods for higher mental processes. Much of his research dealt with sensory and perceptual processes like how much time it takes for certain mental tasks. In previous psychological classes we had been taught that Wundt’s work was highly respected and favored but this chapter seemed to discredit that. Many of today’s historians point out his work to have serious distortions or are plain wrong and the source of the distortions came from the Boring and Titchener who wrote about Wundt in their own words. A lot of Wundt’s writing has not been translated from German or is very hard to read which is why the information on Wundt is in others words and not his own.
Another interesting section of chapter 4 was about Hermann Ebbinghaus. He was primarily involved with the study of memory. He was all about formation and retention of associations which originally sounded pretty out there to me but made so much more sense once I was able to grasp the content of his work. A lot of his findings actually influence the way we think today especially for students. He used serial learning as his memory task, a task that a lot every student uses on a daily basis. When we study for tests we try to memorize our study guides in the exact order they are in and repeat it and write it out in that exact sequence time and time again until we have memorized it. His serial learning tasks comprised of nonsense syllables or CVCs, which were a set of units that contained two consonants and a vowel in the middle. We also use remote associations especially when memorizing sequences that are very similar in nature.
G.E. Muller was the most uninteresting part of the chapter. It was dismal to say the least because a lot of his work wasn’t ground breaking and in fact just merely replicated and added to the research of others. It wasn’t interesting because his stuff added on to Ebbinghaus’s findings, Fechner’s findings, and Hering’s work as well making his work seem very unoriginal.
I think the topic that would be the most useful for understanding the history of psychology would be the studies Ebbinghaus did on the human memory. His work gave psychology a first look at how memory works in certain aspects and different associations. By knowing a little bit about how some things can become memories or information that can be memorized, it helped the field of psychology in understanding what techniques may work for helping memory retention.
The previous chapter was about physiological psychology and this chapter took the procedures and scientific methods from physiology and integrated them within experimental psychology, which is also known as physiological psychology. Wundt the founder of experimental psychology used many of the physiological procedures for his experiments.
I would like to learn a lot more about memory, associations, and what styles or techniques are better for not only absorbing information but retention and recall as well. I have always had some issues with trying to cram for tests and learning as much information as possible and trying to retain it all while still being able to access it on the spot. If there are certain techniques that can aide in recall and retention it would be useful to know to help prepare for exams.
I was wondering a lot about memory during the Ebbinghaus section, and knew I was always told that if you crammed everything into one study session you wouldn’t be able to retain it all or may not access some of it. And I was wondering to myself if there is a threshold where the information can be retained and recalled without having to spend every night studying up until an exam. I also remember doing the two-point threshold tests in our bio labs as well as weber’s law while I was reading about Weber’s studies.
Terms: Weber’s Law, Two-Point Threshold, Ebbinghaus, Retained, Associations, Experimental Psychology, Wilhelm Wundt, Physiological Psychology, G.E. Muller, Fechner, Serial Learning, Nonsense Syllables, CVCs, Remote Associations, Immediate Conscious Experience, Higher Mental Processes, Boring, Titchener, Memory
1a) State what your topic is.
James McKeen Cattell
1b) Discuss how the topic relates to the chapter.
Cattell relates to this chapter because he was a graduate student under Wilhelm Wundt and he was well known later as one of the first professors of psychology in America. He wrote many letters about Wundt to his parents which appeared in an excerpt from the chapter, and he worked a lot in his graduate level work in Leipzig in one of the first major laboratories of the time and did work on intelligence.
1c) Discuss why you are interested in it.
I was interested in what Cattell was saying about Wundt more than Cattell himself, but I thought that it would be easier to find out more information about Cattell, especially since in this chapter he is only mentioned briefly in an excerpt. So I wanted to dig a little deeper and find out who Cattell was as a person, and not in just this small view of him during his doctoral degree.
James McKeen Cattell was born in 1860 in Pennsylvania and was born into a prominent and wealthy family. He entered Lafayette College at the age of 16, and graduated with the highest honors. He then went on to a fellowship at John Hopkins University, and when that was not renewed, he went to Leipzig for the second time as Wundt’s assistant. He completed his PhD at the age of 26 and was the first American to publish a dissertation. He then lectured for a while at the University of Cambridge in England before eventually going to Columbia University where he was eventually fired, but gained a settlement to start the Psychological Corporation. This was a failure until other psychologists took it over who had experience in applied psychology. He also created the Science Press Printing Company.
Cattell was interesting in that he believed in eugenics, and was heavily influenced by Charles Darwin and thought that men of science were more likely to be born from fathers who were either clergymen or professors. He believed in eugenics so much that he offered his own offspring 1000$ if they married the offspring of another university or academic professional. After graduate school, it does not seem that he did much in the lines of research, but he did do a lot for early scientific publishing and was very successful in that, and helped further psychology as a science by making sure articles pertaining to these fields were prominently displayed within his journals, of which he owned several, and he also helped originate two professional directories to better connect researchers together.
Within Cattell’s areas of research, he helped apply psychology to the fields of education, advertising, business and industry. While at Columbia University, he conducted a lot of research on mental health testing as well, and is considered to be one of the founders of the field of psychology in America, as he was the administrative head of psychology at Columbia. He used a lot of psychophysical measurement in his research as well, but it seemed that he had a greater goal in mind. This goal was to have psychology viewed as a science on the same level as physics and life sciences.
James McKeen Cattell died on January 20, 1944 at the age of 83.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_McKeen_Cattell
Background information and eugenics
http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/100070/James-McKeen-Cattell
About testing and journals
http://www.indiana.edu/~intell/jcattell.shtml
More about testing and life
1a) What did you find interesting?
Gustav Fechner.
1b) Why was it interesting to you?
Fecher was so passionate and dedicated to his research on eyesight and afterimages, that he often used himself for experiments which eventually caused him to go blind. Not only did this cause him to go blind, but it also caused him to become neurotic and lose control of his own thoughts.
2a) What did you find interesting?
The savings method
2b) Why was it interesting to you?
I’ve never heard of this term before. However, it’s something I’d always thought about without assigning a term to it. Sometimes I think back on certain LAC courses and think, “I don’t remember anything from that class”. I couldn’t tell you anything I learned, but I know if I relearned some of the material it would take me much less time to learn it and probably stick better. For example, I took Elements of Weather my freshman year. I don’t remember anything about cold and warm fronts, but at the time I knew them so well. I know that if I were to look up the information again, it would all come back because it’s there, just not totally there.
3a) What did you find interesting?
New Psychology
3b) Why was it interesting to you?
new psychology is the core of how psychology was seen during this time, and had progressed. Psychology now involved experiments in and outside of the lab. It involved the, “scientific examination of human conscious experience, using methods borrowed from experimental physiology and supplemented by new strategies.” This differs from what most people believe physiological psychology to be, because most believe it deals with psychology and behavior.
4a) What one (1) thing did you find the least interesting?
This chapter is the most boring one I’ve read so far.
4b) Why wasn't it interesting to you?
I read the entire chapter front to back and really struggled to find anything that interesting. A lot of it was hard to understand. For instance, I wanted to understand internal perception, but I could not understand this concept to save my life with the way this author wrote about it. I also found it difficult to understand how many of the experiments took place. I feel like this would’ve been easier to understand if I could’ve seen the experiment taking place versus reading about it.
5) What did you read in the chapter that you think will be most useful to in understanding the history of psychology?
The information on Wundt. A lot of this chapter was dedicated to Wundt’s life and his discoveries, so obviously he is a very important part of psychological history.
6) How, in what ways, does this chapter relate (build on) to the previous chapters?
The topic of materialism was mentioned in the last chapter, but was expanded on in this chapter. Hume’s philosophy on association was also brought up in this chapter in regards to Ebbinghaus’ discoveries on memory.
7a) What topic would you like to learn more about?
Experimental Psychology as a whole
7b) Why?
The chapter touches on psychologists that contributed to experimental psychology, but I would like to know what other advancements were made with experimental psychology and how experimental psychology is applied today. I’d like to know what kind of jobs are available to those interested in experimental psychology and what it would take to become qualified in this profession.
8) What ideas related to what you were reading (what did you think about) did you have while reading the chapter?
How frustrated I was trying to understand this chapter. I’d like to go over this content more in class because I’m having a very hard time understanding it from this particular reading.
Materialism. Internal perception.
new psychology. experimental psychology.
Conner Hoyt
1a) What did you find interesting?
The huge interest that Americans took to study Psychology in Germany.
1b) Why was it interesting to you?
I think its interesting that over 9000 Americans just up and decided to go to Germany to learn about this new practice, especially while other countries such as Sweden and Russia are doing that exact same thing. If I could assume, I’d say that people wanted to go to Germany due to the great success that had been born out of it, and thus they wanted to make a name for themselves. It’s not shocking to me that they wanted to do this, the idea of learning what truly makes a human a human is stimulating and at the time would seem to give a prestige over other professions.
2a) What did you find interesting?
Retroactive/Proactive information
2b) Why was it interesting to you?
Retroactive information means that new information will block out old information, whereas Proactive information will have old info block out new info—usually due to some bias. I think both terms are equally entertaining, and it gives names to occurrences of everyday life. In the case of Retroactive, it would be where one discovers something totally awesome and completely covers the old theories—one example I could give would be how evolution came to be, leaving creationism to be second by many scholars today. Proactive is something that happens when one would have a bias towards something, such as if one were to favor Freud over Skinner, even though Freund seems to lack scientific backing for most of his research.
3a) What did you find interesting?
Wissenschaft Psychology
3b) Why was it interesting to you?
It’s interesting to me because the topic seems to cover a huge portion of psychology. Wissenschaft, defined simply as: research based psychology that focuses its studies on societal interactions and experiments in nature. This entire psychological basing covers nearly every practice. While however it is annoyingly vague, one could argue that everyone is a Wissenschaft psychologist and take whatever pride they find in that.
4a) What one (1) thing did you find the least interesting?
James McKeen Cattell. I found him to be uninteresting due to the fact that his only claim to fame was that he studied under Wundt and went to America to establish a psychology department—to which I say ‘big whoop.’ Honestly, had it not been Cattell to build up a psych department in America, someone else would’ve came along and done the exact same thing. It’s not an interesting achievement. It would’ve been great to read over his findings in the field, however apparently he is not interesting enough to mention further.
5) What did you read in the chapter that you think will be most useful to in understanding the history of psychology?
I believe this chapters further builds on the roots of psychology. Continually this book builds on the historicism of the field, what he had known and to where we have come today.
6) How, in what ways, does this chapter relate (build on) to the previous chapters?
The previous chapters seemed to have the same layout, that being it revealed many different psychologists who had shared their ideas with their colleges.
7a) What topic would you like to learn more about?
Wissenschaft psychology. I’d like to know if this is actually a thing, or rather something one would say they practice.
8) What ideas related to what you were reading (what did you think about) did you have while reading the chapter?
Being German I related a lot to the text simply through heritage. I also felt a strong connection with the men who traveled overseas for their deep desire to further their education on psychology.
9) Wissenschaft Psychology, Cattell, Retroactive/proactive information
1a) What topic did you find interesting?
I found the topic of two-point thresholds done by Ernst Weber to be the most interesting.
1b) Why was it interesting to you?
I found this interesting because I would just think that I would always be able tell if one or if two thing we poking me. It is interesting to know that different section of skin have varying levels of sensitivity. I suppose this is do to the amount of nerve endings that are in one specific area.
2a) What person did you find interesting?
I think the most interesting person in the chapter was Gustav Fechner.
2b) Why were they interesting to you?
He was interesting to me because of all the hardships that he overcame and was still able to contribute to psychophysics. His studies on visual afterimages was also very interesting to me. Unfortunately, his work ended up blinding him and he eventually had to resign from the university he was working for. However, I find it somewhat of a miracle that his sight came back and he was able to be a professor again and work on his theory of a “day view”, which dealt with the mind-body relationship.
3a) What do you think of the overall message of the chapter?
I think the overall message of this chapter was that there is more to psychology than just the mind. This chapter had a lot to say about how the mind and body work together to perceive the world. It talked about sensitivity, kinesthesis, and how physics plays a role on psychology.
3b) Was it interesting to you? Why or why not?
Even though I don’t really like physics, I did find this chapter to be pretty interesting. I think this is because I have always liked the topic of perception and consciousness. I find it really interesting how the find and body work together to create the reality that we experience on a day to day basis.
4) What did you read in the chapter that you think will be most useful to in understanding the history of psychology?
The thing that will be the most useful to understanding the history of psychology is the studies done by Fechner about mind and body. I think this will be the most useful because it shows everyone’s mind-body experiences are different which cause different sensations and perceptions in reality.
5) How, in what ways, does this chapter relate (build on) to what you have already learned about the History of Psychology or to material you have learned in other classes?
This topic built on what we learn from chapter 3 about brain function and the nervous system. It built on these topics by talking about how a person perceives and senses the signals the brain is sending throughout the body.
6a) What topic would you like to learn more about?
I would like to learn more about the Ebbinghaus Forgetting Curve.
6b) Why?
I have always found cognitive psychology to be interesting. I have always known that as time passes a person begins to lose what they have learned. I think it would be cool to better understand why this happens.
7) What ideas or questions related to what you were reading did you have while reading the chapter?
Like I previously stated, why does a person lose what they have learned over time? Is there a way to keep this from happening?
8) Terms: cognitive psychology, nervous system, brain function, perception, sensation, Ebbinghaus Forgetting Curve, Gustav Fechner, mind-body, reality, sensitivity, kinesthesis, day-view, Ernst Weber
1a)The topic that I found interesting was psychophysics, particularly Ernst Weber and his law.
1b)It was appealing to me to learn about how we determine how much things weigh. We don't notice a very small difference if we hold one thing in our right hand and another similar object in our left hand. The items may weigh different,but we do not notice unless there is a big difference in mass. Weber came up with the term "jnd" which means "just noticeable difference which explains why we cannot tell small differences, but can recognize bigger differences.
2a) The most interesting person to me after reading this chapter was Ernst Weber.
2b) He has done a lot of work and has made huge and important contributions to psychophysics. He established the two-point threshold which interested me because it was made to understand and examine tactile sensitivity. In order to do this he had a device that resembled a drawing compass and used this to touch a subjects skin. The subject had to find out if one or two points were touching their skin. I found this experiment very interesting because some people felt one point and some felt two points.
3a)This chapter is very important for the field of psychology. There are so many elements that compromise this. Psychology is a science and so we too,need to study and research science as well in order to get better understandings. Experiments done by Wundt and Weber are important because they made a big impact on psychology.
3b)I thought the chapter was pretty interesting, not all of it but most. I thought it was somewhat boring reading about the education in Germany among other things,but what I did enjoy was learning about all the experiments that were done in psychophysics.
4)After reading this chapter I believe what will help me most in having a better understanding of the history of psychology is Ernst Weber. His research on perception was outstanding to me and opened my eyes that this is a very important part of psychology and deals with the brain and how we use it to sense things.
5)This chapter relates to what I have already learned about the history of psychology in many ways. I have learned that science is very important. Not just one science,but all of them. It is important to know in order to make progress and understand psychology.
6a) I would really like to learn more about perception and how our brains work in order to perceive things.
6b)It fascinates me how we use our brains for so many different things and I want to learn more about why and how.
7)I found a lot of the things in this chapter very interesting, but I also thought it was very hard to understand for some reason. I felt even if I reread this chapter I would still have trouble.
8) Ernst Weber, Wundt, Two-point thresholds, Weber's Law, Perception.
1a) What topic did you find interesting?
I found the Reaction time studies interesting
1b) Why was it interesting to you?
It was interesting to me for several reasons, but one of the main reasons being James Mckeen Cattell who was an American worked with Wundt on this method. He studied the method both in Germany and in the United States which was interesting to me as well. Reaction Time is also a topic I have always been so interested in. I enjoyed reading about how they went about forming their studies since there were many elements that went into it.
2a) What person did you find interesting?
Muller
2b) Why were they interesting to you?
I found Muller very interesting because he wasn’t afraid to build on other’s work and according to the text he did in fact add to Wundt’s work, along with Ebbinghaus work. I found it interesting also that he devoted much of his life to expanding on research.
3a) What do you think of the overall message of the chapter?
I think that the overall message of the Chapter is that in the past Psychology steamed from students of Physiology. The men who studied physiology dared to claim that there was something more and that psychology in fact was different than just the biology that went into their studies. Important men like Wundt had great ideas of New Psychology. In the end I also think a central message is that Psychology has changed over the course of history. Goodwin the author of our text also points out that Wundt’s theories were “re-examined”. This is an important concept in the message I believe because it gives us another reason for us so see why we learn about history (so that we can test or re test theories to see if they stand the test of time).
3b) Was it interesting to you? Why or why not?
It was interesting to me because I learned a lot about studies I had a base knowledge on, and the text really elaborated more on how the studies were specifically done and what happened after the studies.
4) What did you read in the chapter that you think will be most useful to in understanding the history of psychology?
This chapter like the last helped me to understand further that without other branches of study such as science, medicine, philosophy, there would be no psychology today. It also helped me to understand where a lot of the studying and first experiments happened (Germany) (Wundt's first experiments at Leipzig)
5) How, in what ways, does this chapter relate (build on) to what you have already learned about the History of Psychology or to material you have learned in other classes?
It built on my knowledge of memory tasks and also taught me more about them. Ebbimghaus study on serial learning was not totally new information to me but I did find it interesting how Goodwin goes more in depth about him being the main participant in his own study which I found fascinating.
6a) What topic would you like to learn more about?
I would love to learn more about the reaction time experiments at Clark University.
6b) Why?
Goodwin explains that many times that there were not many participants in the reaction time studies and that often it was only two or three people. I would love to read more about those studies and how they collected data with so few participants.
7) What ideas or questions related to what you were reading did you have while reading the chapter?
I did have some questions in regard to Fechner and his life work, from what I understood from the text there was a brief time where he was considered an invalid. I understood this due to the studies that he did lost some of his vision but I had a hard time understanding the other problems that followed the depression and so on. This was not a large point in the reading but I was curious if the damage to his eyes caused a psychological response that changed hormone levels in his body.
8) Once you are done with your post make list of the terms and terminology you used in your post.
Serial Learning, Reaction Time, New Psychology,
Chapter 4.
1a) What topic did you find interesting?
1b) Why was it interesting to you?
It was interesting to learn about Hermann Ebbinghaus’ studies on memory of non-sense syllables. This was interesting to me because it showed that act of forgetting happens at a very rapid rate shortly after learning. This helped us gather more information about the developments of associations between unassociated stimuli and also more information about retention rates. This is interesting to me because with the new era of experimental psychology we can clearly see how Ebbinghaus wanted to study memory, something abstract or intangible. Through his discovery of non-sense syllables, he was able to formulate a concrete way of measuring memory. This is just one of many examples how psychologist have adapted to the idea of experimental psychology.
2a) What person did you find interesting?
2b) Why were they interesting to you?
I found Wilhelm Wundt to be very interesting. I was interested in reading about him because even today we consider him the “founder of scientific psychology”. He understood how important it was to create scientific, experimental methods. He created the very first laboratory of experimental psychology and the first journal which held the results of their scientific research. Due to his discoveries and ideas, he is someone to remember.
3a) What do you think of the overall message of the chapter?
3b) Was it interesting to you? Why or why not?
I think the overall message in Chapter Four was to help us recognize how the combination of philosophy and physiology created a new experimental psychology. It also points out this occurred in the late nineteenth century in Germany. This was interesting to me because back in the nineteenth century we did not have any forms of communication to other country besides very slow, snail mail. It’s neat to realize despite the distance, Germany was also making these advancements and even placed these studies into their school systems. I think that alone is what helped expand this science, many traveled to Germany just to study this new experimental psychology.
4) What did you read in the chapter that you think will be most useful to in understanding the history of psychology?
This chapter exposed me to a lot of different areas of experimental psychology which as shaped psychology as we know it today. I think the most useful part is recognizing psychology is not a field, it is a field of science and it is experimentally based. We have evolved greatly from the very first ideas of psychology.
5) How, in what ways, does this chapter relate (build on) to what you have already learned about the History of Psychology or to material you have learned in other classes?
This chapter builds on to what I already have learned in the History of Psychology because it is expanding on the idea of experimental psychology. This chapter really breaks it down and tells the story of many German psychologists and how they concluded their research from their experimental studies. For example, Hermann Ebbinghaus and his non-sense syllables, Kulpe and the method of introspection, Muller and color vision, Wundt and mental chronometry. Before reading this chapter, I knew what color vision and non-sense syllables were but this chapter really gave me an understanding of where it all come from and why we studied these topics in the past.
6a) What topic would you like to learn more about?
6b) Why?
It was very interesting to read about Weber’s psychophysics. I would definitely love to learn more about it because it is a new term I have never heard of before. Psychophysics is the study of the relationship between how someone perceives a stimulus (psycho) and the actual physical dimensions of the stimulus being perceived (physics).
7) What ideas or questions related to what you were reading did you have while reading the chapter?
In relation to question six and psychophysics, it would be interesting to learn if one’s perception varies for each person or if we are able to generalize to the general population? Also, I would like to know are there any differencing factors or “special populations” which perceive a stimulus completely different than others.
8) Terminology: Ebbinghaus, non-sense syllabus, memory, associations, unassociated stimuli, experimental psychology, Wundt, Kulpe, method of introspection, Muller, color vision, mental chronometry, psychophysics, Weber.
1a) What topic did you find interesting?
The topic that I found most interesting was the concept of apperceptive mass. Apperceptive mass is an interrelated group of ideas at the forefront of consciousness. The book gives a wonderful example on who as you are reading this chapter, how well you are focusing on the information. Yet the fact that the book talks about the weekend, how does that affect you’re processing of the information you are reading. If you are really paying attention, and having good idea strength. Then the talking about the weekend is under your threshold of awareness.
1b) Why was it interesting to you?
Its interesting because it is something different than what I have personally come across. When it comes to consciousness, in psychology the first thing that comes to mind is Freud. I feel that Freud is over talked about and over used. I get that he came up with a lot interesting information, but it’s nice to know that there are other people who made contributions, that necessarily did not have an odd view on sexual relationship with family members.
2a) What person did you find interesting?
The main person I found interesting was Johann Herbart, he helped come up with the idea of apperceptive mass.
2b) Why were they interesting to you?
This man, came up with a concept about consciousness that I have never heard of, it was interesting to know someone else besides Freud. Also, he is what really pushed psychology to be its own field. He started to pull away from philosophy and physiology. From his concept of apperceptive mass and being able to separate events above and below a given point. Really gave other individuals the tools they needed to further expand this field.
3a) What do you think of the overall message of the chapter?
The overall message of this chapter is focusing on the push of psychology becoming its own field. It is the beginning steps to more research being done, and stepping away from philosophy and physiology. Psychology today is still heavily influences by research, and it continues to grow.
3b) Was it interesting to you? Why or why not?
It was interesting to read, because when you take introduction to psychology they go over the basic people, which now I would refer to as ‘poster childs’. Such as Freud, Pavlov, Harlow and others. I never really came across Johann Herbart. He was not deemed worthy enough for a lecture. Which I honestly feel that he is, if made the first steps that allowed other people to make greatness. Why it is at my senior year, is he finally mentioned?
4) What did you read in the chapter that you think will be most useful to in understanding the history of psychology?
This chapter, talks about the different kind of new experiments are happening and research is playing a bigger role. Its nice to know where that stems from.
5) How, in what ways, does this chapter relate (build on) to what you have already learned about the History of Psychology or to material you have learned in other classes?
On the first day of class, one of my main questions was how did everything get started, and did other people come up with the same ideas. Reading this chapter, showed me about how one little idea or study can spark a whole new field. It has also showed me that there is a difference between two people making the same discovery and providing the information to the public.
6a) What topic would you like to learn more about?
How did universities just become? How did people just decide that one theory is wrong and have to absolutely prove their theory right? What really derived people in that time period, what motivated them so strongly?
6b) Why?
The reason being that it is so interesting, the time periods are so different than ours, and new research is constantly being done and published and its amazing that even ‘back then’ when there was not a lot of technology they still were able to produce amazing things.
7) What ideas or questions related to what you were reading did you have while reading the chapter?
I would not mind, going to Europe and exploring these areas that they talk about, and learn more history there.
8) Apperceptive Mass, Johann Herbart, Threshold, Weber, research
1a) I found herbarts idea of apperceptive mas to be interesting.
1b) I found it to be interesting because of the fact that if you were focused on something and blocked other thoughts out of your mind it was your conscious awareness. in the concept it seems to me that Apperceptive mass is the concept of focusing on one thing even while you are thinking of another or know it exist but block it out to do what you need to do.
2a)Herbart is also one of the people that I found interesting.
2b) I found him interesting not only because of his theory of apperceptive mass but also his thoughts that an empirical psychology was possible. that being a psychology based on experience and reflection on that experience. I find that concept to be interesting also because to me I feel that everyone learns from experience. even the people in the past.
3a)I feel like the overall message of the chapter was interesting. it talked a lot about research that was done by researchers from Germany.
3b) I feel that the chapter was interesting because it finally made me put together all of the work that really had been done in Germany. in other classes I would always here a name and where that person was from or did research but never put together how much really was done in one place that gave us so much research in the field of psychology.
4) I think that reading this chapter as a whole helped me to understand that no matter what a psychologist was doing for an experiment or what their outlook was on what they were doing in the field it helped everyone gain knowledge and it has led to psychology becoming the field that it is today.
5)in other psych classes I got the names of many of these people and maybe a brief outline of how they may have affected a field of research but it was more of a summary. I liked that this chapter went into more detail about each person and concepts that they had. helps me to better connect the dots.
6a) I think one thing I would like to possibly know more about is internal perception.
6a) I say this because they say that the reaction times and everything are faster so it is more reliable. it makes me question though that if it is more reliable of so reliable why is it limited to such a small area of testing.
7)in most if not all the chapters there is a lot of focus on perception and nerves and sensations of the body. why is that? originally when I decide to study psychology I thought it would be mostly about the brain but there is so much more to it than that.
8)apperceptive mass, herbart, empirical psychology, internal perception
1) I thought that Hermann Ebbinghaus’s studies on memory were interesting. I’ve always been curious about how memory works and how to improve it, so that’s why I thought it was interesting. Ebbinghaus looked at many different areas of memory. The experiment that this chapter talked about was when he made up some nonsense syllables, put them in a list, and saw how long it took to completely memorize the list. He actually memorized over 1300 lists himself, which I thought was impressive.
2) I thought that the most interesting person in this chapter was Ernst Weber. His research on sensitivity and the senses was fun to read about. He figured out that some areas of the body are far more sensitive than others. He did this by using a tool similar to a drawing compass (with two points) and touched the skin in various places with the two points at different lengths apart. He found out that more sensitive areas of the skin can detect the two points when they are closer together. He also did research in kinesthetics (the muscle sense). He even came up with a law, called Weber’s law, that determined how different two things needed to be before a person could detect the difference between the two, called the just noticeable difference.
3) I thought that the overall message of the chapter was that there is more to psychology than just the brain. This chapter talked about the body and the senses along with other things that show that the whole body works together. This chapter also points out the importance of experiments and science and how they helped with modern psychology. Yes, I thought it was interesting. I always like to read about the experiments people have done and the discoveries they made.
4) I think it was good to read about how all of the other fields of science have played a role in psychology. I liked to see how they all worked together to form the sciences as we know them today.
5) It helped me to build my knowledge on things I already knew. I had already heard of many of the people in this chapter, but I didn’t know much about them. It was good to refresh my memory and get more details about these people and their accomplishments.
6) I would like to learn more about sensation and perception. I have always been interested in how we perceive things and the brain’s role in perception.
7) The thing that I was most curious about was if people perceive things in different ways or if everyone perceives things the same.
8) Hermann Ebbinghaus, memory, nonsense syllables, Ernst Weber, sensitivity, senses, kinesthetics, Weber’s law, just noticeable difference, experiments, sensation, perception
1) The topic I found most interesting was Gustav Fechner’s Elements of Psychophysics. I found these Elements to be interesting because they are still used today. This shows how important his research and techniques are. Many of the individuals written about in this book have contributed at least ideas, but not all have contributed things that are used today! I find this amazing!
2) I found Gustav Fechner to be interesting because of his strong desire to defeat materialism. After struggling with many things (bad eyesight, depression, anxiety, and headaches), Fechner was able to overcome the rough patch and keep discovering and researching. After one insight experience, Fechner triggered a decade of intense work on sensory thresholds. He wrote the Elements of Psychophysics. I found Fechner to be interesting because of his struggles and his perseverance. It is so very inspirational to me when I see someone down in the dumps, but able to make it back to the top. To me these are the people that deserve recognition.
3) I think the overall message of this chapter was to map out the shift from philosophy and science-based thinking to the new experimental-based thinking. This chapter told of the important people who set the stage for experimental research. A shift in psychology was brought about. It makes connections between old, new for its time, and current use of sensory threshold discoveries.
4) The thing I read that was most useful to understand the history of psychology was the sections of Wilhelm Wundt’s contributions. I think Wundt’s contributions were very important in the understanding of experimental psychology. It shows that even though earlier individuals had the same ideas as him, they did not promote their research. Wundt was considered the founder of experimental psychology because of his dedication and his promoting of the field. Wundt set out to create a new type of psychology so that people could use a similar important approach. He created the first lab experiment and had the first written “scholarly journal article” about his findings. His type of research and these journal articles are very much used today. In fact, they are of huge importance and without them we would not be half as far into our practice as we are. His research studies sparked a new era and influenced many important psychologist.
5) This chapter helps me build on what I have learned in classes such as Research Methods. Research Methods did not teach me much about its history, but I learned a lot about its practices, theories, methods, etc. I am now about to see where those all stemmed from and who can be given credit for starting this type of thinking. Though I am not into the research aspect of psychology, I now have a new found respect for the field of experimental psychology.
6) I would like to learn more about Gustav Fechner because of his struggles. I would like to know how he got to recover and where he found his strength. I think it’s amazing that he came out of all that hardship and still continued to be passionate about psychology.
7) Questions I had were:
Why did I not learn about the history of experimental psychology in Research Methods? Many of the names of people from this chapter did not ring a bell. This made me have this question: Were the people of this chapter “lesser” contributors of psychology? Why had I not heard of many of them? Are they just so specific to their field that they would not be covered in an introductory class? Even is biopsychology, when learning about memory, I do not remember reading or learning much about Hermann Ebbinghaus and his contributions.
8) Gustav Fechner’s Elements of Psychophysics, Gustav Fechner, materialism, Wilhelm Wundt, experimental psychology, Hermann Ebbinghaus
1a) The topic that I found most interesting was the term introspection.
1b) I found introspection so interesting because I had heard of the term before but when I actually thought about it, I couldn't come up with what the definition of it was. So the term stuck out to me, and I had to look it up and get a better understanding of what it actually means, and connect it back to the different contexts to which I remember hearing the word in. And I figured out that I use introspection a lot in my life. I feel like we all evaluate our thinking and thought processes without even really knowing that we do.
2a) The person that I found the most interesting was Hermann Ebbinghaus.
2b) The reason why I found Hermann Ebbinghaus so interesting was because he did a lot of research and studying of a persons memory. I have always thought that memories and how certain things stick with us, how we can repress them, how we can pull them out of thin air, how we can remember things from a long time ago, or how they can show a mental image in our head. Memory is just a really cool thing that our brains can hold onto. Looking into how our brains can recall things, is why Ebbinghaus was so interesting to me. The most interesting to me was the savings method, remote associations, and ecological memory that Ebbinghaus explored. Savings method is about looking into measuring how long after learning the information a person is still able to recall it. Or basically the rate of forgetting information. Remote associations was interesting because it was about learning lists and how there's a direct relationship between the ease of relearning and the degree of remoteness of the associations. And finally I thought ecological memory was interesting because it gave a name to the memories that we have that come about every day and are just there in our minds. We don't have to necessarily think real hard about them or think abstractly.
3a) The overall message of the chapter I think was about how Germany and many of the psychologists there created this whole new sense of psychology and thinking. The creation or exploration more of experimental psychology. They started thinking more experimentally and about reactions to stimuli instead of just investigating how things work. I think this chapter was about going more in depth from what was talked about in the last section.
3b) This section was pretty interesting to me, however reading is pretty boring to me when its just about facts and people, and nothing real exciting is happening. I think I learn better hands on, or hearing it out loud. Sitting and reading just doesn't do it for me. But I am trying to get into the text. The most interesting though for me I think was the part about memory.
4) I think that in this chapter, the part that will help me understand the history of psychology the best is the different psychologist and how their new ways of thinking and findings changed and almost rewrote how we think of history. It's really interesting to me to see how the views and ways of thinking have started out, and how they change based on a person's new findings or experiments. The history of psychology is kind of all trial and error. The more you investigate and study it, the better you understand it. But it could change on you at any moment.
5) Like I've said before, when you are reading about the history of psychology, it just tends to build upon itself. There's a few things that I got an overview of while taking other psych classes, but a lot of what I read in this chapter was pretty new to me. Either that or I was relearning it and didn't know it. There's so much to study about psychology that it all just builds off of each other. The study of sensation and perception can help you understand the study of learning and memories. It's all connected and the more you know and learn, the more it helps you understand psychology.
6a) The topic that I think I would like to learn more about is Wilhelm Wundt and all of his contributions.
6b) There was just so much information on him in this chapter that it was a little overwhelming. I wouldn't mind just taking a section of what he studied and going more in depth of what his findings and methods were. He is obviously a very bright guy, if he had so much to contribute that most of a chapter in a book is dedicated to him. I think what I would like to know more about was his study into sensation and perception, because for some reason, those were the two that got my attention the most.
7) One question that I have after reading this chapter is that there's so many psychologists and scientists that have found out these amazing things, but is there more? Is there possibly some other people out there who have found out incredible things, but because someone turned them down, or maybe they don't have the money to get their findings out to the scientific community. There could be so much more that we don't know or understand yet. The field of psychology is so incredible and huge.
8) Terms: introspection, Hermann Ebbinghaus, savings method, remote associations, ecological memory, experimental psychology, sensation, perception, Wilhelm Wundt,
1) What topic did you find interesting?
-I found the topic of “The New Psychology Spreads” interesting. I liked how three certain people explored Wundt’s new approach to understanding the human mind. Those three people include Ebbinghaus, Muller, and Kulpe. I found all three fascinating people who helped expand on Wundt’s “new science.” I think that Ebbinghaus’ nonsense syllables, savings method, and serial learning was interesting since memory to me is an interesting topic to study. Muller’s invention of the memory drum adds to my fascination of studying memory and the retroactive inhibition. I also thought that Kulpe’s findings in his more complicated lab than Wundt’s was interesting since it made me think more about self-observation, known as systematic experimental introspection. I also find controversial topics like imageless thought and conscious attitudes, of course fascinating since they make for less dull studies.
2) What person did you find interesting?
-The person I found most interesting was Oswald Kulpe. I liked him since I agreed with him that experimental psychology is one of the more fascinating aspects of the science of the mind. I like to learn more about memory, since it makes me wonder a lot of why we remember certain things either long or short term. I also thought fractionation was a cool procedure, which one time in class we tried it out.
3a) What do you think of the overall message of the chapter?
-The overall message objectives was how education in Germany facilitated the development of psychology as a new science, mainly due to Wundt and several of his German contemporaries explored and expanded on his new approach. It also mainly covers memory and reaction time.
3b) Was it interesting to you? Why or why not?
-Some aspects of the chapter weren’t too bad since I like when it discusses more about experimental psychology in labs and about memory and reaction time. It is more interesting to read than about Weber’s Law in my opinion and just noticeable difference. That first part of the chapter before it got into Wundt wasn’t as appealing, but that is just in my opinion since they’re topics that don’t get me pondering more about them.
4) What did you read in the chapter that you think will be most useful to in understanding the history of psychology?
-I think the main useful part of the text that influences the understanding of the history of psych was about Wundt, and his followers. That lab in Germany helped make psychology the science it is today, and helped expand it from Germany to America. With it catching the attention of the famous James, Hall, and Cattell, it made American psychology which without it, this would not be a class or a major today.
5) How, in what ways, does this chapter relate (build on) to what you have already learned about the History of Psychology or to material you have learned in other classes?
-In my other psychology classes we practiced fractionation, and discussed Wundt, James, Hall, Cattell, Titchener, Muller’s memory drum, Ebbinghaus, introspection, Weber’s Law, jnd, and two-point thresholds. I like that this major and what we learn is mentioned multiple times in other classes, it helps with learning and understanding in different forms.
6) What topic would you like to learn more about?
-I want to learn more about how James, Hall, and Cattell took what they learned from Germany and brought it over to America.
7) What ideas or questions related to what you were reading did you have while reading the chapter?
-I wonder why James, Hall, and Cattell were interested in learning about psychology in Germany, and thought they should bring it to America. I also wonder why many people believe in Darwinism and Darwinian biology, I disagree with some of it.
8) Wundt, Ebbinghaus, Muller, Kulpe, nonsense syllables, savings method, serial learning, memory drum, retroactive inhibition, systematic experimental introspection, imageless thought, conscious attitudes, Weber’s Law, jnd, William James, Stanley Hall, James Cattell, two-point threshold, Titchener, Darwinian biology
1a) I found Wilhelm Wundt’s topic of sensation and perception pretty interesting.
1b) The reason I found sensation and perception interesting was because I am interested in those two points in general. There wasn’t really a lot on the topic in the chapter but I like how Wundt studied in his lab and helped discover positive and negative after images, visual contrast, illusions, and the perception of size, depth, and motion.
2a) I found Ernst Weber interesting
2b) I found Ernst Weber interesting because his two major contributions of Weber’s law and the two-point threshold are things we still use today and I like how his discovery of Weber’s law would later help out Wilhelm Wundt.
3a) I think the overall message of this chapter is that the study of science is crucial in psychology and that the mind is the major component in psychology. Without the knowledge of the brain and why we do things we wouldn’t be where we are with psychology today.
3b) I enjoyed reading and learning about this chapter because it helped me understand more about how the mind with some cognitive functions and about how we perceive things.
4) I think what will be the most useful with learning the history of psychology is that things we still research and want to find out more about today are things that were developed way back then. That our knowledge grows from our ancestors that came before us and without their contributions we wouldn’t be where we are today.
5) This chapter relates to what I have learned in previous classes about Wilhelm Wundt because his name usually comes up a decent amount in psychology class. I knew Wundt was a major contributor to psychology but this chapter helped me build my knowledge about him and more of his discoveries that relate to psychology.
6a) I would like to learn more about Wundt’s view of sensation and perception.
6b) I would like to learn more about Wundt’s view of sensation and perception because it is a topic that really interests me. There wasn’t a lot of material in the chapter that covered this topic and I just want to know more about how he came up with the results that he did.
7) An idea that I had when I was reading this chapter was that it had a lot of people in it. It is weird how we know almost all of these ideas and concepts but we have no idea who did them. I know that it is because the concept is more important than the name but I know if I made a big discovery or contribution like that I would want to have my name remembered.
8) Terms: Wilhelm Wundt, Sensation and Perception, Ernst Weber, Weber’s law, two-point threshold.
1) One thing that I found interesting in the chapter was the memory drum. I thought that this was interesting because I have not heard of this device before. Although I did not know much of psychology in Germany and the growth of reaction and memory through German psychologist, most of the chapter did not really spark any interest. The memory drum though seems very interesting to me both in its use to measure memory and its simplicity.
2) I found Ernst Weber to be an interesting individual. I found him to be interesting due to his work with perception and the two-point threshold. His work with perception and muscles with his “just noticeable difference” that turned into Weber’s Law. I found it interesting that individuals have a threshold to which they can differentiate between two objects weight. It is also interesting that the weight differential perception decreases with increasing weight. What this is, is Weber’s Law. Where the threshold difference can only be detected where the weight of the second object is the weight of the first object plus the number of the first number i.e. 60 and 66 or 30 and 33 grams. The formula being jnd/S=k.
3) The overall message of this chapter was the contribution to the field of psychology from German psychologists. More specifically building on psychophysics which is the study of the relationship between the perception of a stimulus and the physical dimensions of the stimulus being perceived. I thought that some of the content was interesting, mostly Weber’s work. I found it interesting because it built upon my last post about perception but this type with physical stimuli. How we perceive things has always been interesting to me so learning about how individuals experimented with perception always catches my attention.
4) I think the beginning of the chapter is the most important to learning more about the history of psychology. Understanding to why Germany was the best place to go to learn about new advances in psychology helps to ask more questions to how did it get to that point and how did it build from that. These questions will lead us to investigate the answers to these questions and thus learn more about the history of psychology.
5) The two point threshold has built upon my knowledge from my science class from freshman year. In my science lab, we actually did this experiment to test our perception. So this was the first time I have ever heard of this experiment but I didn’t know where it came from. So being able read about how this was created and who created it for what purpose built on my little knowledge on this topic.
6) I would like to learn more about Hermann Ebbinghaus and his work with memory. Why I would like to learn more about his is because this applies to what I want to do for a living. I want go to law school and become and attorney so in a court scenario, memory is a huge thing with witnesses. So learning more about memory and how it works and the best ways to keep it longer will help me in the future.
7) Why was Germany the best place for psychology and how did it get to that point?
8) Terms: two-point threshold, perception, physical stimuli, Ernst Weber, Weber’s Law, memory, jnd/S=k
1a) What topic did you find interesting?
I found the idea of new psychology interesting.
1b) Why was it interesting to you?
It is interesting to me because that is where modern day psychology originated. New psychology was experimental psychology. Psychologists were performing scientific tests in labs at universities. They also started to make journals and publish psychological journals for the public to see their results. Without new psychology being introduced the psychology that we know today could be different.
2a) What person did you find interesting?
I found Wilhelm Wundt interesting.
2b) Why were they interesting to you?
He was interesting to me because he was one of the most influential people in psychology. He practically invented psychology as a science. He was one of the first experimental psychologists. He came up with many different ideas throughout his career. He came up with the idea of internal perception. This helped to get a better idea of people’s self-observation because he narrowed the results to happen soon after the stimulus. In his lab Wundt studied mental chronology. He and other scientists tried to come up with different ways to calculate the different reaction times of people. They tried both a personal equation and the subtractive method. Both were later discredited because they were too simplistic.
3a) What do you think of the overall message of the chapter?
I thought the overall message was interesting. I enjoyed learning about where experimental psychology originated from.
3b) Was it interesting to you? Why or why not?
I thought it was pretty interesting. I thought the first half of the chapter was boring, but once I got to the section on Wundt it became more interesting. I enjoy learning where things originated. To learn where experimental psychology originated was interesting.
4) What did you read in the chapter that you think will be most useful to in understanding the history of psychology?
I think learning about where experimental psychology originated will help to understand the history of psychology. You have to understand where and how and why something was started before you really know anything about it.
5) How, in what ways, does this chapter relate (build on) to what you have already learned about the History of Psychology or to material you have learned in other classes?
6a) What topic would you like to learn more about?
I would like to learn more about Hermann Ebbinghas and his work on memory.
6b) Why?
I find it interesting that he had the idea to study memory. I also thought it was interesting how he decided to test it. His results were also intriguing. I would like to know more about why he wanted to study memory and where he came up with his idea for nonsense syllables to study. I want to know why he chose serial learning to study. I also want to know how he came up with his savings method. I thought it was interesting how he thought we saved or memories.
7) What ideas or questions related to what you were reading did you have while reading the chapter?
8) Once you are done with your post make list of the terms and terminology you used in your post. Wilhem Wundt, internal perception, mental chronology, personal equation, subtractive method, Hermann Ebbinghas, nonsense syllables, serial learning, and savings method.
1a) I found retroactive inhibition and the memory drum interesting.
1b) I thought it was interesting because it was the beginning for research of forgetting. In particular, retroactive inhibition was discovered by trying to learn a second list in between learning the first list, the first list is often forgotten. The memory drum is a tool that was used to measure retroactive inhibition. I thought that the memory drum was interesting because it was used until 1990, when computers became more efficient.
2a) I found Oswald Külpe interesting.
2b) I thought he was interesting because he decided to find a career in psychology after taking a course from Wundt. Then he came back to him and learned under him for 7 years. I also thought it was interesting because he researched topics that put him at odds with Wundt and Titchener. The topics he researched became distinct enough that they became their own brand, “Würzburg school.”
3a) I think that the message of this chapter was that psychology is not just about the mind. It showed us how the mind and the body work together, such as in the Weber’s two-point threshold and Weber’s law. These both are theories about how the brain communicates with the body, the two-point threshold being the point where feeling two points turns into feeling one, and Weber’s law being the just noticeable difference between two weights.
3b) I thought that it was interesting because when most people think of psychologists they think of the couch and a therapist taking notes. I thought that this chapter did a nice job showing some other areas that psychology covers.
4) I think that one of the most useful things in this chapter was Ebbinghaus’s forgetting curve. I thought that this was important because it began the research on memory. Müller continued Ebbinghaus’s research and this lead to the memory drum being created. These theories and inventions helped us understand memory and how we learn things.
5) I thought that this chapter built nicely upon the last chapter when we learned about the brain and it’s functions.
6a) I would like to learn more about Ebbinghaus forgetting curve.
6b) I like learning about memory and cognitive functions. I think that it would be interesting to learn more about what Ebbinghaus learned back then and learn what we have learned since.
7) What have we learned about memory since Ebbinghaus? Is there a rate of memory loss that is regular? How fast does memory loss have to be to be considered a problem?
8) Retroactive inhibition, memory drum, Oswald Külpe, Würzburg school, two-point threshold, Weber’s law, Ebbinghaus, forgetting curve.
1a) What topic did you find interesting?
I thought that the topic of thresholds was interesting.
1b) Why was it interesting to you?
I noticed that this topic came up in the research of many different psychologists and I find it interesting that there is a point in many of our senses between perceiving the stimuli and not perceiving it at all. It is awesome that one little change in distance or intensity can make the difference in our perception. Seeing how Ernst Weber developed this idea and coined the term “just noticeable distance” or jnd was interesting. I was interested in learning about Weber’s Law and that the jnd is not a set number but rather a percentage. Adding a quarter of a pound to one weight can cause someone to recognize them as different weights which is amazing to me, it shows how differences can exist and we may not even know about them. The same thing applies to the two-point threshold, two things can be touching us and we think it is one because the two are not far enough apart. What was even more interesting was how Weber’s initial research was then elaborated on by such individuals as Gustav Fechner. I remember as a child having hearing tests done at my elementary school. We had to indicate when we heard a beep in our ear and the intensity of that beep changed. Now I know that this is just a modern application of Fechner’s Method of Constant Stimuli which is used to detect the threshold of your hearing abilities. It was interesting to learn that this was not the only method for testing the hearing threshold but that the Method of Limits and the Method of Adjustment also serve unique purposes.
2a) What person did you find interesting?
The person that I found most interesting was Wilhelm Wundt.
2b) Why were they interesting to you?
I found the history of Wilhelm Wundt and his contributions especially interesting considering the fact that he is known as the “founder” of New Psychology or experimental psychology. It was interesting to learn that in his early career, Wundt was not an extraordinary student but rather a middle of the line kind of guy. It just goes to show that even the great people in history do not always appear to be geniuses at first glance. Yet, Wundt was full of talent and I thought it very fascinating the variety of people Wundt had as mentors. He worked with Robert Bunsen who influenced his teaching style and research. Wundt was also heavily influenced by Helmholtz whom had great contributions to the idea of nerve impulses, vision, and audition as Wundt was present in his lab for quite some time. It was also amazing to me the sheer volume of work published by Wundt which shows me how passionate he was for his subject and the great amount of information he wished to offer the world. It was also intriguing to see the care Wundt took in obtaining his research. He knew that introspection of some sort was needed to complete his analysis but also knew that if he waited too long after the experiment to collect participants’ thoughts, they would likely be inaccurate. So instead, he introduced internal perception which was given right after the experiment was completed. I was surprised by his consideration of this potential error in data. Finally, I was surprised to see that Wundt was also responsible for many ideas surround reaction time. We know today that there are differences in reaction time between individuals which Wundt appropriately accounted for using personal equations. I had never thought of all of the different aspects that go into an action such as pushing one button for one color or another button for a different color. Yet, by reading about Wundt I learned that indeed there is an amount of time required to react to a color being given, discriminating between colors (discrimination time), and choosing which button to push. Psychology is certainly a very complex field!
3a) What do you think of the overall message of the chapter?
I thought that this chapter focused on how research was done leading up to and following the introduction of experimental psychology. Again, it is part of the story which leads us to where we are today in the field of psychology. I thought that the chapter did a good job of presenting the information. It focused not only on the “founder” of experimental psychology but also those that contributed to it before Wundt and how Wundt’s research contributed to future research in the field.
3b) Was it interesting to you? Why or why not?
This chapter was interesting to me because it explained where experimental psychology originated. When I think of psychology, this is often the branch that comes to mind, so I was interested in learning more about the founding research in that area. Also, many of the ideas presented related to experiences I had had such as the hearing tests I mentioned earlier or reaction time such as when I played softball. So to learn more about these ideas and other applications for them was very much of interest to me.
4) What did you read in the chapter that you think will be most useful to in understanding the history of psychology?
I think reading about those ideas which have been carried into the present day such as information about thresholds and reaction times will be most important to my understanding of psychology. It is important to see where these ideas came from and how they were tested and compare them to research I may read later in which the same questions are examined. Again, as we learned in the first chapter, many of the same questions are examined across time so seeing how they developed and were tested in the past can help us see how we got to the present and possibly even inform future research.
5) How, in what ways, does this chapter relate (build on) to what you have already learned about the History of Psychology or to material you have learned in other classes?
This chapter builds on other chapters as it is an expansion of the research done first by physiologists. So, researchers like Wundt and Fechner built on questions they had seen explored in physiological terms by their contemporaries. This chapter expanded on those fundamental question by exploring how those questions were looked at in a lab and the development of scientific research on the brain.
6a) What topic would you like to learn more about?
I would like to learn more about Hermann Ebbinghaus and his research.
6b) Why?
I was extremely interested in looking more into the life and research of Ebbinghaus as I am intrigued by the topic of memory. I find it fascinating how our brain can remember some things for a very long time or at least store it even if we cannot recall it on command. Yet, other information is forgotten in a matter of hours. The concept of a forgetting curve which shows the time saved when learning information for a second time also is interesting to me. I would like to know more about this topic and how it relates to such fields as education where memorization is the basis for many tests. I would also like more information on ecological memory because although I see the application of serial memorization such as Ebbinghaus’ use of nonsense syllables, I think that memorization of everyday information is more useful. After all, we don’t often encounter or try to remember useless information. Instead, we are able to make useful associations with everything we come across, thus impacting our memorization of that event or information.
7) What ideas or questions related to what you were reading did you have while reading the chapter?
While reading this chapter, I began to wonder when the other areas of psychology arose and how they differ from one another. Is it simply the topic they study that differentiates them or also their methods for research? Which areas of psychology are most useful today and how has that changed over time? How do the different areas of psychology relate and combine to form an overall view of humans?
8) Once you are done with your post make list of the terms and terminology you used in your post.
Ernst Weber, threshold, just noticeable difference (jnd), Weber’s law, Gustav Fechner, Method of Constant Stimuli, Method of Limits, Method of Adjustment, Wilhelm Wundt, New Psychology, introspection, internal perception, reaction time, personal equations, discrimination time, Hermann Ebbinghaus, forgetting curve, ecological memory, serial memorization, nonsense syllables
1a) I found two-point threshold to be interesting.
1b) I found the two-point threshold to be interesting because it was one of the first research done in the field that examined the sensitivity and perception of skin on various locations of the body. I find it to be very interesting that on fingers it is easier to tell when two points can be felt where as on the arm it takes a greater space to be able to tell the distance.
2a)The person I found most interesting was Ernst Weber.
2b) I found Weber interesting because instead of delving into a more known field he decided to forge his way through a rather unexplored one and to make an name for himself. Not only was he brave in his endeavor to study the field of tactile senses but he was successful, leaving behind two great contributions from his work; the mapping of sensitivity of locations on the skin and the mathematical relationship between the psychological and the physical.
3a) I think the overall message of the chapter was to show that psychology is not all about what goes on in the mind, it has a lot to do with how the mind and the body communicate and interpret the world around us.
3b) It was not very interesting for me because my interest in more focused in the mind part of psychology.
4) I think learning that many of this research was done in Germany is an important aspect of understanding the history in psychology. It may be an American thing or just my own tunnel vision but it's easy to forget or just be ignorant of the rest of the world's contribution to any field, that it is a joint effort we are all striving for to learn and understand ourselves and what is around us.
5. This chapter has built on what I have already learned because I was aware of the two-point threshold test but I was not aware of the founder of the test or his history, and this chapter was able to help me build onto that knowledge by reading that it was Ernst Weber.
6a) I would like to learn more about the Ebbinghaus forgetting curve and his savings method.
6b) I find the subject of memory to be fascinating and I'd love to hear other's perspectives on it.
7. I would like to know more about outliers in Ebbinghaus' research on memory, those who have excellent memory and how long they could retain information.
8.Savings method, two-point threshold
1a) I found the topic of Education in Germany to be interesting in this chapter.
1b) I found this topic interesting because of the migration of so many students traveling to Germany to get an education in Germany. The University of Berlin was responsible for developing a more scientific approach to psychology that was not previously known, which appealed to more students. Professors and students were given more freedom to study and research their own interests, rather than follow a strict curriculum. This emphasis on research-based psychology in Germany during this time was the start of the psychology that we know today.
2a) I found to be Wilhelm Wundt to be the most interesting person in this chapter.
2b) Reading about him was interesting to me because he is the founder of experimental psychology. Wundt showed an interest in science with help from the famous chemist, Robert Bunsen. He graduated with a degree in medicine, but quickly realized that he wanted to pursue a career in research instead. He proposed a new psychology that used methods borrowed from experimental physiology and new strategies not previously used in psychology. Wundt was the first psychologist to perform psychological experiments in a physiology laboratory.
3a) I feel that the overall message of this chapter was to introduce the influential members of the psychological community that helped to shape it into the field that it is today.
3b) Like the previous chapters that we've read, there is good information that provides background information on how major concepts in psychology came to be. I found this chapter to be interesting because I feel like it really put an emphasis on the specific people that really invented experimental psychology.
4) The most useful thing I read in this chapter that will help me better understand the history of psychology is the flow of students and professors to Germany to pursue experimental psychology. If it were not for the educational opportunities in Germany during this time, then we might not have the psychology we know today.
5) The material in this chapter has built upon material I have learned in previous courses. Some of the topics in this chapter that were covered that I already had known about were: two-point threshold; “just noticeable difference”, Weber’s law; mental chronometry or reaction time; sensory and perception; serial learning; conscious attitudes. A lot of these things I have already known about but learning the history of them, I've learned even more. For example, I had no clue that reaction time had another name, and that serial learning was called that, I just thought it was called try and remember as much as you possibly can and be able to recall it to someone.
6a) I would like to learn more about nonsense syllables.
6b) I would like to learn more about nonsense syllables because there were not any examples given of them, just an explanation of what they were. While the explanation may be sufficient for some people, I would have liked to see an example of what a nonsense syllable is. I also found it fascinating that Ebbinghaus created 2,300 of them!
7) Why was Germany the main focus for the migration of students pursuing higher education? What is a nonsense syllable? How did they study psychology before it being research based?
8) Terminology: Education in Germany. Wilhelm Wundt, Robert Bunsen, experimental psychology, two-point threshold, jnd, reaction time, weber’s law, serial learning, conscious attitudes, nonsense syllables.
1a) What topic did you find interesting?
Experimental Study of Memory
1b) Why was it interesting to you?
To me anything with memory spikes interest. My grandparents both died due to Alzheimer’s and I watched them slowly lose their memory. I always find it interesting to look more into theories about memory or looking more into the memory because of that. I found it interesting to see how memory was looked at then and what kind of improvements scientists have made since then.
2a) What person did you find interesting?
Gustav Fechner
2b) Why were they interesting to you?
I thought Fechner was interesting for the whole sense of he was working as a younger colleague, but he had a more sophisticated goal. He seemed to have things thought out right in his mind and I found that rather impressive especially since he studied as a physician and became known as the first experimental psychologist. I find it interesting that people, even then, would study something but end up doing something completely different with their lives.
3a) What do you think of the overall message of the chapter?
I think the overall message of this chapter was to explain how experimental science spread. It went to state what people did in testing of experimental science and how it changed the looks of it.
3b) Was it interesting to you? Why or why not?
I did not find it that interesting. I feel like this chapter was really focused on people and what they had accomplished. I think that since we are not looking mostly at people but rather concepts in this class that it made it slightly harder to focus on the concept as a whole because of this.
4) What did you read in the chapter that you think will be most useful to in understanding the history of psychology?
I think that memory experiments is the best thing to take from this chapter in the sense of studying history. It is always interesting to learn about our senses and things that can directly affect us.
5) How, in what ways, does this chapter relate (build on) to what you have already learned about the History of Psychology or to material you have learned in other classes?
In last week’s chapter, we learned about experimental science in a way. This week’s chapter is basically just extending on that a little further and more in detail.
6a) What topic would you like to learn more about?
I wanted to know more about the memory drum.
6b) Why?
I found it to be a basic starter for the understanding of memory and believe that it is necessary in order to understand how memory works in general
7) What ideas or questions related to what you were reading did you have while reading the chapter?
I was wondering throughout this chapter if they scientists worked together in any way to help or if they learned from one another’s experiments in general. I think that it would be interesting to know more about that.
8) Once you are done with your post make list of the terms and terminology you used in your post.
Experimental Study of Memory, Gustav Fechner, experimental science, memory drum
1a) What topic did you find interesting? 1b) Why was it interesting to you?
I thought the German educational philosophy was very interesting. This philosophy emphasized original research and the academic freedom to pursue that research. I thought it was interesting because it encouraged learning even if it wasn’t necessarily a subject taught in classes.
2a) What person did you find interesting? 2b) Why were they interesting to you?
Wilhelm Wundt was very interesting because he purposefully set out to create a new psychology that emphasized the experimental methods borrowed from physiology, and he created the first laboratory of experimental psychology and the first journal devoted to describing the results of scientific research in psychology.
3a) What do you think of the overall message of the chapter?
I thought it was good to learn about how certain individuals paved the way for areas of psychology that we are used to learning about and are very prevalent today.
3b) Was it interesting to you? Why or why not?
It was somewhat interesting because I had no previous knowledge of these subjects.
4) What did you read in the chapter that you think will be most useful to in understanding the history of psychology?
The creation of experimental psychology because that is something that is in a lot of aspects of studying psychology.
5) How, in what ways, does this chapter relate (build on) to what you have already learned about the History of Psychology or to material you have learned in other classes?
6a) What topic would you like to learn more about? 6b) Why?
I would like to learn a little more about research on color vision because I think it it is something we take for granted and we don’t give much thought to but is actually very interesting.
7) What ideas or questions related to what you were reading did you have while reading the chapter? I didn’t really have many questions at all.
8) Once you are done with your post make list of the terms and terminology you used in your post.
psychology
experimental
1a) The topic I found interesting in this chapter was the two-point threshold.
1b) I found this topic interesting because it talks about sensitivity where you can feel one point and then the threshold in which it changes to being able to feel two points. This showed how certain areas of the body were more sensitive than others.
2a) One person I found interesting was Wundt.
2b) I had heard about him in my AP psychology class and found out new information about him in this chapter. I thought it was interesting how he came up with the idea of internal perception and decided that he needed to test this in his lab in specific ways. I also thought it was interesting how he wanted to study higher mental processes and did things involving culture and combined many different areas such as social psychology and forensic psychology.
3a) I thought the overall message of this chapter was to discuss research and how it led to experimental psychology. This chapter focused a lot on the men who pioneered experiments and what their labs were like as well as some of their focuses.
3b) I actually found this chapter to be less interesting than some of the other chapters but I am not sure why. I felt like the majority of this was about the people themselves and I like when chapters focus more on things that happened rather than who contributed what specifically, even though I know that is also important. I just found this chapter to be a little less interesting than the previous few.
4) I think what will help me the most to learn about psychology and it's history was how experimentation came about and who helped found it. I also think it is important to know how things were done before experimentation and how much it helped shape what psychology is today.
5) I had previously learned about the two-point threshold and just noticeable difference in my biopsych class and found that to be interesting then as well. I also had learned about Wundt but I did not learn about him to the extent that this chapter went into. I felt this built nicely off of what I had learned because it told me some of what I already know to help refresh my memory and then also added a few more things on top that I had not learned about in my AP psych class or any other psychology classes.
6a) The topic I would like to learn more about would probably be about Ebbinghaus and his studies on memory.
6b) I have learned a little bit about this in my biopsych class where there are certain things people with brain damage can remember that normal people can but certain things they can't and I believe we talked about Ebbinghaus. I've always found memory interesting because it's so much different than most people actually believe that it is. It is not perfect or 100% like we may think.
7) The questions I had were wondering more about what nonsense syllables were and also I wondered more about how these psychologists got the ideas for all of their studies.
8) Ebbinghaus, Wundt, two-point threshold,just noticeable difference, nonsense syllables, experimentation
1a) What topic did you find interesting?
I found Ebbinghaus Forgetting Curve interesting.
1b) Why was it interesting to you?
I find this interesting because it was the first breakthrough in memory research, one step closer to learning what long term and short term memory was with his “Savings method,” and I find everything that relates to memory interesting.
2a) What person did you find interesting?
Hermann Ebbinghaus
2b) Why were they interesting to you?
Not only did he launch the studies on memory, he created psychological journalism. He seemed like a really hard worker and without the psychology journals, the public wouldn’t know as much as they do about psychology.
3a) What do you think of the overall message of the chapter?
I think the overall message of this chapter was that Germany created an educational system that respected history and wissenschaft which created an environment that new ideas could cultivate. Because their education system was like this, they used history to create new experiments and build off of the old ideas. This created “New psychology,” and changed the course of psychological history.
3b) Was it interesting to you? Why or why not?
I found this chapter very interesting because it talked a lot about memory and introspection and where thoughts go and if they stay with us. I find memory fascinating and seeing where our knowledge of memory came from is cool.
4) What did you read in the chapter that you think will be most useful to in understanding the history of psychology?
I think knowing the Wundtian Legacy and how he changed the way experimental psychology was going will be the most useful to know because this was a pivotal moment in history and after him was the spread of “New Psychology.”
5) How, in what ways, does this chapter relate (build on) to what you have already learned about the History of Psychology or to material you have learned in other classes?
This builds onto my previous knowledge because it changed my perspective on the history of psychology. So far we have only been talking about things that have been going on in America. It is nice to see that leaps and bounds were made in other countries too and that education has a lot to do with the course of history.
6a) What topic would you like to learn more about?
I would like to learn more about imageless thought.
6b) Why?
I think if I learned more about it, I would understand it better. I want to know how it was disproved and just understand more about the concept.
7) What ideas or questions related to what you were reading did you have while reading the chapter?
Why was imageless thought and conscious attitudes thrown into the end of the chapter? Was it just to point out the fact that E.B. Titchener was wrong?
8) Terms: Hermann Ebbinghaus, Forgetting Curve, savings method, wissenschaft, new psychology, experimental psychology, Wundtian Legacy, imageless thought, conscious attitudes, E.B. Titchener.
1a) I found Ernest Weber's two-point threshold to be interesting.
1b) Weber's research into tactile sensitivity lead to his discovery of the two-point threshold. This is the point someone can feel the difference between one-point of contact and two-points of contact. This is interesting to me because subtle differences in place of the points and placement of the points on the body can cause changes in someones perception. Its also interesting that different parts of the body have different levels of sensitivity, which is obvious but still interesting none the less.
2a) I found G. E. Muller to be interesting.
2b) Unlike many psychologists who spend time in and out of the lab Muller spent the better part of 40 years solely doing lab research. I found this to be interesting because I feel that most psychological research has some type of real world application that should be done if not all but partially out of a lab setting to insure that it has some form of validity. Muller and his students also further developed and tested many already existing theories. This is important because for a theory to be "accurate" it must have a testable hypothesis and be able to be replicated.
3a) I think the main message of this chapter was the development of new psychology specifically in Germany.
3b) It is interesting to me that this chapter also talked about psychology dealing with the body. To me when I think of psychology the mind is the first thing I think about so learning how it deals with the body is also interesting.
4) In this chapter they talked about how psychologists build off each others theories. I feel this is important to understanding the history of psychology because one person did not come up with everything we learn about on their own it took many years and many brilliant minds to develop the theories we learn about today.
5) This chapter builds on what I learned in a course I took at my previous school called "the great psychologists", Wundt, Fechner, Weber, Kulpe and Ebbinghaus were all people discussed in that course.
6a) Imageless thought is something that peaked my interest.
6b) This is because I can't think of anything that doesn't make an image come to mind. Everything we think about is usually something we have personally experienced or been told about and some type of imagery comes with it. Even if its a fictional thing our imaginations create an image to go with it.
7) While reading the section about Wurzburg research on mental sets, imageless thoughts, and conscious attitudes it made me wonder if I have any imageless thoughts. I think I am going to use imageless thoughts as my research topic for the next blog assignment.
Terms: Wurzburg school, mental sets, imageless thoughts, conscious attitudes, Fechner, Weber, Wundt, Kulpe, Ebbinghaus, two-point threshold, G.E. Muller, new psychology.
1a) The topic that I found interesting was "Studying immediate Conscious Experience."
1b) The reason that I found this interesting, was because I felt like Wundt made a very good point in explaining this principle. Wundt looked at immediate consciousness, and said that it was not the best way to look at things, because it relies on self-observation. This in turn relies on faulty memory, and it is unsystematic, and allows for the risk of not being accurate. However, he came up with internal perception, which was like self-observation, but was a much narrower process of responding immediately to precisely controlled stimuli. There was some consequences with this too, but the data was much more accurate, which was the goal.
2a) The person that I found interesting was Ernst Weber.
2b) He was interesting to me, because he had made a great discovery in creating Weber's Law. He was able to connect the psychological side of an experiment with a physical test. This was a big deal in history, because Weber showed that there was not a one to one relationship between changes in the physical world, and the psychological experience of those changes.
3a) The overall message of this chapter is another necessary one for the meaning of this class. The subject matter of this chapter helps give an understanding of why it is important to know the history of psychology. This specific chapter talked about ways to experiment and create tests that show and support the science behind psychology.
3b) To me, this chapter was pretty dry. The reason I say this is because I know when I find myself daydreaming while reading that the text isn't catching my attention, which is what happened to me during this chapter. Like I stated before, I understand that the information in this chapter was important for the history of psychology, I just didn't find this exact information too intriguing.
4) The thing that I read in this chapter that I thought will be the most helpful in studying the history of psychology was about Wundt, and how he was the founder of experimental Psychology. From what I got out of it, at this time, people were kind of skeptical of psychology, because it sounded like just a bunch of thoughts from random people. But, Wundt was able to start doing experiments and having evidence to support some of his psychophysic theories. People began to believe in his work, and psychology as a whole, and that was very important for the future of psychology.
5) This builds off of what I have already learned in this class and in other classes for that matter, because a lot of the things that we learn about, and base our knowledge in psychology off of is experiments that have been done by prior psychologists. However, I have never stopped to think of who started these experiments. I'm sure experiments to support psychology would've been created at some point regardless, but it is definitely beneficial that Wundt founded them at the time he did, because he was able to pave the way for many more experiments after his.
6a) The topic that I would like to learn more about is imageless thought.
6b) I sort of understood it from the text, but I would like to do a little more research on it to really get an understanding of it, because it sounds like something that could be really fascinating if i got a better understanding of it.
7) An idea that I had while reading this section, and previous sections for that matter, is that you really have to give all these founders, philosophers, important people, whatever you want to call them, credit. It has to take a lot of time, effort, and persistence to get your name in a text book for millions of students to learn about. Like we have stated it's the things these people do that get remembered, not the people themselves, but they have helped get us to where we are today which is really important.
8) Terms: Wundt, Immediate Conscious, internal perception, Weber, Weber's Law, Experimental psychology
1a) I found the information about Weber’s law and the connection between mental and psychical events to be an interesting topic from this chapter. b) Weber’s law was created by Ernst Weber and showed the physical and mental things could be related in a mathematical sense. I found this topic very interesting because it plays a major role in our field but I’ve never really thought about its beginnings before. I also enjoyed how to related to the questions of the relationship between the human mind and body and he topic of materialism. Gustav Fechner said that materialism is the belief that everything that has a cause can be traced back to a physical and chemical change that are connected. These topics are very interesting to me because I have never really taken the time to learn about them in depth.
2a) I found Wilhelm Wundt very interesting because I enjoyed reading about how he is credited for founding the first school of psychology, which he called structuralism. b) I love taking things apart and learning about how they work so when Wundt was one of the first people to actually being to analyze the contents of the human mind to understand its basic structural components and how they are interconnected and function I could relate to his curiosity.
3a) The overall message of this chapter focused around the early beginnings on the pioneers of psychology. It focused about the discoveries in psychology that do not get as much recognition as others. b) It was interesting to learn about new experiments and discoveries within the field, but overall I felt that the topics of this chapter were a little dry. I would have enjoyed it more if it would have covered more about how the researchers tested and proved their theories rather than just stating everything that they all discovered.
4) I think learning about Wilhelm Wundt will be the greatest information to used for understanding the history of psychology because he made some great discoveries within the field. I specifically liked the point when he talked about self-observation as nothing better than philosophical speculation. He was one of the first greater pushes to gain qualitative data rather than just observations and quantitative data.
5) This chapter caused me to look at the more basic areas of the history of psychology a little differently by giving me a greater insight into the people who discovered them. I began to look at things from a different perspective and see the development in a more personalistic way than I have before. It was all pretty new information for me so it did not really build on other materials that I have learned in different classes.
6a) I would like to learn more about absolute threshold. b) It was only mentioned very briefly within the chapter but I thought it was interesting because it is such an important discovery that I never really thought twice about before. It is the point where sensation was first noticed. I guess I find it interesting because I always thought that was just common knowledge and I never really thought about its discovery and how it came to be.
7) I guess the only questions I really have about this chapter is pretty open ended. I just want to hear others’ opinions’ as to why they think it is important or essential to learn about these topics to have a better understanding about the history and systems of psychology.
8) Terminology Used: Wilhelm Wundt, self-observation, qualitative data, quantitative data, absolute threshold, history and systems of psychology, structuralism, personalistic, Weber’s Law, Ernst Weber, materialism, Gustav Fechner
1a) What topic did you find interesting? I found Weber’s law to be very interesting.
1b) Why was it interesting to you? I found it interesting just because it’s something that has crossed my mind when I’m at the gym be I’ve never thought about it in-depth. I have never thought that there was a law about it. I have often wandered if there was any scientific or mathematical reason for the weights at the gym moving up by five pounds and ten pounds. I guess Weber’s law would be a reasonable explanation. In Weber’s experiment observers judged weights and were supposed to indicate when the weight changed. He found that for example if they started off with a 30g weight they didn’t judge at a change in weight had occurred until it was up to 33g. He also noticed that as the weight went up that weight before a change was distinguished also increased for example if the first weight was 60g than the weight that the change would be noticeable would be at 66g. Weber’s law is jnd/S=K. Jnd standing for “just noticeable difference” and S standing for “standard stimulus.”
2a) What person did you find interesting? Wihelm Wundt
2b) Why were they interesting to you? Because he is pretty but the father of experimental psychology. He wrote many books and articles that contribute to the psychology. He was only in he’s mid forty’s when he arrived at the University of Leipzig, leading university in Germany at the time, and had contributed a lot already to the study if psychology. At Leipzig he started a lab were he and his student began to do original studies which is now called Psycologisches Institute.
3a) What do you think of the overall message of the chapter? I think that the overall message of this chapter was to show how psychology became an experiment field. It also shows the relationship between physical stimulus and the perception of the stimulus. The chapter also inform us on who paved the way in the field.
3b) Was it interesting to you? Why or why not? This chapter helped me understand more about the cognitive functions. I also found Weber’s law to be very interesting. And I learned of all the many contributions that people like Wundt, Weber, Eddinghaus, Muller and others made to the field of psychology.
4) What did you read in the chapter that you think will be most useful to in understanding the history of psychology? I guess this chapter helped me appreciate my research methods class a little more because I now see how psych started to become an experimental field. And it also showed me how psych started to become credible as a form of study.
5) How, in what ways, does this chapter relate (build on) to what you have already learned about the History of Psychology or to material you have learned in other classes? To me it’s like the past chapters are telling a story and this chapter is giving us more details to help the story make more sense to us. We all know that psychology was once in the philosophy category and that it is now a science and so what this chapter does is to explain how that came to be.
6a) What topic would you like to learn more about? I would like to learn more about perception and sensation.
6b) Why? Because I found Weber’s law to be interesting and would like to know what or how else we misinterpret sensations.
7) What ideas or questions related to what you were reading did you have while reading the chapter? Does the numbering system at the gym stem from Weber’s Law or was it just a practical way to do things because they don’t want to have too many equipment in the gym?
8) Terms: Weber’s Law, perception, sensation, Wundt, Weber, Eddinghaus, Muller, physical stimulus, “just noticeable difference” or jnd, “standard stimulus” or S
1a) I found the education movement in Germany to be interesting.
1b) It was new knowledge that took me by surprise. The idea of Wissenschaft, and that students wandered from campus to campus receiving their degree by passing exams and defending research rather than completing a certain curriculum.
2a) Wundt
2b) His studies and explanation on immediate and mediate consciousness were impressive and relate-able
3a) The overall message was that this new educational movement in Germany helped shape the advances and research of psychology
3b) I find the study of the mind to be very amusing because if I were approached and asked to come up with ideas of how to study or measure the conscious mind, I wouldn't even know where to begin
4) Wundt's research of mental processing is still used today. The importance of language culture etc. is highly influential on how people make decisions today. It is something that is still a big part of psychology today.
5) How, in what ways, does this chapter relate (build on) to what you have already learned about the History of Psychology or to material you have learned in other classes?
6a) German education during the 19th century
6b) I am interested in understanding why Germany was such a hot spot for college during this time. History is understanding what people were thinking at that time and putting yourself in their shoes. You do not fully understand history until you can explain things from multiple points of views. So personally I just want to understand, geographically economically and politically speaking, why Germany?
7)Again, why was Germany the place to be at the time in comparison to everyone else?
8) Wissenschaft, Wundt, Germany, Immediate and mediate experience.
1a) (Interesting) Appreciative Mass (why?) perception through focused attention has always been a topic of interest through personal ties.
2. (Interesting Person) Naturally I’d have to say Johann Herbart (why?) because of his concept of apperceptive
3a) (Message) The connection of Psychology as a science in the empirical sense (Interesting?) yes (why?) I enjoy hearing about the rise of psychology and the many different experiments, or philosophies that came about thought this chapter
4) (Contribution to History) I think Wundt’s concept of new Psychology gave me a new perspective and it showed a clear connection to the physiological side of psychology
5) (Chapter build) This chapter most specifically builds on the experimental side of psychology. As I increase the knowledge of what psychology is as a whole, you find out the struggles and advances that were made from reading through this section. I have a better understanding of what experimental psychology is as well as a more integrated idea of the history that psychology derives from. Of course this being with the German influence.
6a) (topic to learn about) Psychophysics (why?) it combines my love of physics and the perception that it entails. This has a lot to do with my sports psychology background and also should clearly explain my interest. As most of what I deal with on a day to day basis has a strong connection to psychophysics.
7) (Questions) well the questions that I found myself asking dealt with the Psychophysics. But I always have questions that relate to what I do and how it is perceived. I guess more specifically I would want to know what things we can do to bring out the proficiency of others. Or in this case Behavior Modification. But another big question is how others view us and how that knowledge of how others may view us changes our perception of the culture of that person.
8) Terminology: Appreciative Mass, Johann Herbart, Psychophysics, Wundt, New Psychology, Empirical, Experimental.
1a. Two point threshold
1b. I found this interesting because I guess I never thought of the different sensitivity levels, even though I knew they were there.
2a. Wundt
2b. It's just interesting that he was one of the main figures in psychology. It's also just weird to think about times when psychology wasn't a thing, and it's interesting that he just somehow came up with the idea that there was more than just the physical medicine. He has many books and papers that are still relevant to today, and it's just kinda interesting to learn a little more about him and his ideas.
3a. I think the overall message of the chapter is that German psychology made a major impact on what psychology is today.
3b. Yes it was, many of the main figures of psychology aren't from the US, and it's nice to know more about those figures, so we're at least a little more knowledgable of the people we're learning about.
4. Wundt's research because of how much is still used and relevant today.
5. I had learned very little about Wundt, so this built on my knowledge of him.
6a. Sensation and perseption
6b. This is just a relevant topic all of the time, and it just really intrigues me to learn more about it.
7. NA
8. Wundt, sensation and perseption, two point threshold
1) What topic did you find interesting? Why?
I found The Ebbinghaus Forgetting Curve to be interesting. As a student and as an education major, I have learned a little about retention of new knowledge in relationship to school and tests. After learning new information, students remember less and less each day and even each hour, which is what The Ebbinghaus Forgetting Curve describes. According to this forgetting curve, 40% of memory is lost after just twenty minutes. This is important to consider as a future educator. Repetition of information is vital, as well as understanding rather than rote memorization.
2) What person did you find interesting? Why?
I found Wilhelm Wundt to be interesting because he was a major part of the chapter. He created the first school of psychology, he heavily influential books, and his work lives on today. I believe that if one person is known for such a great amount of work, they must be highly important. As a result, those people are interesting because there is something that makes them outstanding, even if we can not pinpoint what that quality is.
3a) What do you think of the overall message of the chapter?
The chapter focused on the development of new psychology and influential people to this development.
3b) Was it interesting to you? Why or why not?
I found parts of the chapter to interesting, but overall, the focus on people was rather boring.
4) What did you read in the chapter that you think will be most useful to in understanding the history of psychology?
I think understanding Wundt's contribution to psychology is very important because he had such a large influence on the development of psychology as field of study.
5) How, in what ways, does this chapter relate (build on) to what you have already learned about the History of Psychology or to material you have learned in other classes?
As mentioned earlier in post, the Ebbinghaus forgetting curve is relatable to information I have learned in my education courses. We have discussed the importance of reviewing new information several times before assessing students because loss of memory begins instantly. According the foretting curve, after a day, the majority of information has been lost. This also emphasizes the importance of not simply memorizing information, but understanding it. Not only does that relate to my education courses, it also relates to this course. We have discussed in class the reasons why people do not enjoy history and one of the reasons is memorization of people and dates, which is exactly what the forgetting curve suggests against doing.
6) What topic would you like to learn more about? Why?
I would like to learn more about women in the field of psychology. This was very briefly mentioned in this chapter, but feminism and equality is a special area of interest of mine. I am a female percussionist, which has led to some unequal treatment in my field of study. My personal experience with sexism and discrimination is what triggers my interest in this problem in other fields of study.
7) What ideas or questions related to what you were reading did you have while reading the chapter?
I was hoping to understand more about imageless thought. What makes it a controversial topic?
8) Once you are done with your post make list of the terms and terminology you used in your post.
Imgaeless thought, Ebbinghaus forgetting curve, Wilhelm Wundt
1a) What topic did you find interesting?
The Forgetting Curve
1b) Why was it interesting to you?
I found it interesting because sometimes my memory fails me and I can only remember a few details when I feel that I should remember more. Even though Ebbinghaus’s experiment only concerned abstract lists it is still relevant to understanding how memory is “saved”.
2a) What person did you find interesting?
Wilhelm Wundt
2b) Why were they interesting to you?
The sheer amount of publications that he published is amazing. The author of our textbook mentioned multiple times how accomplished this one man was during his lifetime. He invented a new domain in psychology—experimental psychology—and tried to measure the conscious experience. He created ideas on how psychologists could measure consciousness—by using measures of sensation and perception.
3a) What do you think of the overall message of the chapter?
I thought this chapter mainly highlighted the contributions of Wilhelm Wundt in the foundation of experimental psychology. It also discussed the impacts of German psychologists in the past.
3b) Was it interesting to you? Why or why not?
I found the idea of finding a relationship between the psychological reaction and physical objects interesting. The most interesting thing about the field of experimental psychology (aka psychophysics) is the fact that these researchers attempted to measure the amount of time for certain mental processes. I also enjoyed reading the small section on James Cattel, a pupil of Wundt.
4) What did you read in the chapter that you think will be most useful to in understanding the history of psychology?
I think the most useful thing that was in this chapter was learning about the methodology and experimentation of German researchers. I had not heard of many of these men or their contributions to the field of psychology so it was nice to have a larger perspective on people that are not seen as important enough by other textbook authors.
5) How, in what ways, does this chapter relate (build on) to what you have already learned about the History of Psychology or to material you have learned in other classes?
I recognized the name of Wilhelm Wundt and James Cattel but I did not know as much going in to the reading as I did coming out. In the past sensation and perception were briefly discussed under the umbrella term of experimental psychology rather than under the term of psychophysics.
6a) What topic would you like to learn more about?
How the study of immediate consciousness has changed/improved since Wundt’s era.
6b) Why?
I would like to know if the methodology has been updated to reflect modern standards. I want to know how much the field had changed or expanded or even if it had shrunk.
7) What ideas or questions related to what you were reading did you have while reading the chapter?
There was a sentence in the chapter that read “Wundt’s ideas [were] reexamined in the 1970’s.” I want to know why Wundt’s ideas seemed to be left in the past until cognitive psychology became a large area of interest and researchers wanted to learn more about the experimental study of mental processes. Does this happen often to researchers? There findings are relevant one day and the next they are disregarded?
Terms: Forgetting Curve, Ebbinghaus, Wundt, Cattel, Experimental Psychology, Psychophysics, German Psychologists, Relevancy, Immediate Conciousness
1a) I found the topic of physiological psychology to be really interesting. 1b) It’s really interesting due to the fact that Wundt had a huge contribution to this aspect of psychology. His research was really enthralling to read about.
2a) The person I found to be more interesting is Ernst Weber. 2b) It’s interesting because he was really smart. He was able to contribute mathematics into psychology, with his later named law; Weber’s Law.
3a) I didn’t exactly like this chapter as much as I did the earlier chapters. 3b) It was harder to get into the chapter compared to others because it was hard to read at first. I don’t really like learning the mathematical aspects that is extremely important to psychophysics. I also didn’t know things like Weber’s law and the whole topic of psychophysics existed.
4) I think the most useful information was Wundt’s contribution to psychology.
5) It builds on to what we've already learned in that we know how psychology has gotten to that point in time. Science itself was developing fast and making experimental psychology easier. In that sense new techniques were being developed and still continuously building during that time frame. It was leading into modern psychology.
6a) I think I would like to learn more about imageless thoughts. 6b) It is kind of weird that they never resolved the argument about imageless thoughts and happened with that. The chapter didn’t really elaborate on the whole topic.
7) I thought a lot about the concept that we’ve always learned that Wundt was considered the father of psychology. Why is that so? Why aren’t multiple people considered the fathers of psychology? So many people helped push it forward to develop into what it is now.
8) TERMS:
Psychophysics
Wundt
Weber’s Law
Ernst Weber
Imageless thoughts
Modern psychology
1.A: I found immediate conscious experience and the concepts introspection, and internal perception to be interesting.
B: I found this topic to be interesting because I haven’t learned about this before. This section of the chapter was the most interesting to me because it relates to self-observation. This topic is what made me interested in Wundt. I think this topic was so interesting to me because this was the subject matter of his lab work. I enjoy learning about experiments and different lab research topics. He found this topic to be much more complex to examine.
2.A: Wundt was the person in this chapter that I found to be the most interesting.
B: I found him to be interesting for his work the conception of the New Psychology, his lab work, higher mental processes, and mental chronometry. All these concepts have been very interesting to read about. The topics have so much information he has done so many different things with his work.
3.A: I thought the overall message of this chapter was good.
B: This section was interesting to me to a certain point but there was a lot about people and what people do. There was to much information regarding people. But I do think the information about systematic experimental introspection, mental sets, and ecological memory was very interesting to read about. I enjoyed this chapter more than other chapters because it was all information that I didn’t know much if anything about before I started reading.
4. Understanding where some of the methods and research started and history of it all is important to understanding the history of psychology. Without understanding where the methods and research started from you cant move on and build off of those topics.
5.This chapter builds on my knowledge in many ways because a lot of the information in this chapter was new to me and it added to my knowledge new information and more information about the people that gave us the knowledge we learned about in this chapter.
6.A: I would like to learn more about Wundt and his research.
B: I think this topic is very interesting and I would like to learn more about what research he did and how he did it. His work at Leipzig is one topic I would like to learn more about in regards to Wundt.
7.I didn’t really have any questions about the chapter. A lot of the concepts that were talked about in this chapter were interesting.
8.Immediate conscious experience, introspection, internal perception, Wundt, mental chronometry, higher mental processes, New Psychology,
1a) Weber’s Law
1b) The idea of thresholds has always been interesting to me. One way I look at is the common idiom, “The straw that broke the camel’s back.” I’ve always looked at this literally. At some point there has to be one more straw that will be too much.
2a) G.E. Muller.
2b) I admire how much of his time he dedicated to being in a psychology laboratory, he truly was an experimental psychologist. I also am very fond of the idea that he liked to give his students credit for work done. One of the reasons he is not very well known along with that a lot of his work was never translated to English. I’m curious as to why this is. Did they not deem his work important enough to be translated?
3a) I think this chapter sort of fell into the, “names and dates,” category of history but it was important to read about different psychologist’s contributions and how experimental psychology came to be.
3b) Not all of it was interesting but something I did find very interesting was how intertwined all of these psychologist’s lives were. For example Oswald Kulpe studied under and worked with Wilhelm Wundt, worked in G.E. Muller’s lab and was friends with Edward Titchner.
4) Although it is reiterating chapter 1, I think it is important to remember that histories are continually being rewritten and are sometimes subject to change or people’s perceived ideas of what happened.
5) It shows how Psychology is a sort of never-ending mystery. One person discovers an idea that is just a clue to a bigger picture or idea. Ideas continuously build off each other and change due to people’s perceptions, beliefs and discoveries.
6a) Hermann Ebbinghaus’ sentence completion test.
6b) The chapter only touched briefly on it. It said it was comparable to the intelligence test developed by Alfred Binet in France and I would like to know how these two tests are related.
7) Something that has always intrigued me about people involved with psychology is how open-minded they usually are. Something that sometimes bothers me with some psychologists is how stubborn they are in their ways. How can they be so sure that their way is the right way when they know everyone’s brain perceives situations, ideas, beliefs and the world around us in their own way?
8) Weber’s Law, Thresholds, G.E. Muller, experimental psychology, Oswald Kulpe, Wilhelm Wundt, Edward Titchner, Hermann Ebbinghaus, sentence completion test, Alfred Binet.
1a) What topic did you find interesting?
1b) Why was it interesting to you?
I found the topic of apperceptive mass to be the most interesting topic. I find it interesting to think that there can be multiple related ideas that can be grouped together that we can then focus on and that is at the front of our awareness and attention. This group will stay at the forefront until other influences present a new group of ideas that begin to interrupt the focus and begin to take over the awareness. Apperception itself is an interesting concept to me as well and that Herbart's expansion of the concept makes a lot of sense.
2a) What person did you find interesting?
2b) Why were they interesting to you?
I thought that the most interesting person was Gustav Fechner. I was particularly interested in the fact that before he had even started to make his most noted contributions to the psychology, he was studying afterimages in vision that were left after looking into a bright light. The most interesting part of this particular study to me was that he began to look at the sun, and even though he had sunglasses on, he still damaged his eyes to the point of blindness and had to quit his job and gain his income through disability. And yet this was only a hiatus for Fechner, for he returned to work and eventually began his research on the methods of psychophysics. By developing the method of limits, the method of constant stimuli, and the method of adjustment, research can be done to determine the point where a person's sensory organs are able to detect a stimulus. These methods are still used today with hearing tests and, ironically, vision tests.
3a) What do you think of the overall message of the chapter?
3b) Was it interesting to you? Why or why not?
I think that the overall message was that experimental science was founded by Wilhelm Wundt and was developed and progressed by others who attended and receive doctorates from German colleges. As the author mentioned in the chapter, the culture and mentality of German academics and research was conducive to the start of the experimentation of psychology becoming recognized as a science and among those in psychology as well. I did find this interesting as well as the fact that there were many people from America even in the 1800s who were studying abroad in Germany.
4) What did you read in the chapter that you think will be most useful to in understanding the history of psychology?
I think that it was useful to not only learn that Wundt was the founder of experimental psychology, but that a lot of the leading contributors and those who pave the way in experimental psychology were from Germany or attended school in Germany. Germany became the Ivy League for learning about science and experimental psychology and to get a doctorate while learning under the founder and his colleagues was a highly esteemed career move.
5) How, in what ways, does this chapter relate (build on) to what you have already learned about the History of Psychology or to material you have learned in other classes?
I have heard a lot about Freud and his theories, and with him being such a big and important name in psychology, I was curious to find that a lot of Freud's theories had been influenced by the work of Johann Herbart. His theories of apperceptive mass and the below-threshold unconscious came to be important elements of Freudian theories.
6a) What topic would you like to learn more about?
6b) Why?
I would like to learn more about the concept of conscious attitudes. I would agree that when making decisions that there are more often thoughts of doubt or certainty in mind mind prior to making a decision rather than images. I would like to know more about what studies were done of conscious attitudes overall, as well as studies that were done by those involved with the Oswald Kulpe and the Wurzburg School.
7) What ideas or questions related to what you were reading did you have while reading the chapter?
Any ideas and questions that I had about the chapter I expressed in the previous question.
8) Once you are done with your post make list of the terms and terminology you used in your post.
Gustav Fechner, psychophysics, method of limits, method of constant stimuli, method of adjustment, Wilhelm Wundt, Johann Herbart, experimental psychology, apperceptive mass, below-threshold unconscious, conscious attitudes, Oswald Kulpe, Wurzburg school, apperceptive mass, apperception
1a) What topic did you find interesting?
In this chapter i found the studies on memory very interesting.
1b) Why was it interesting to you?
They were interesting to me because i have a horrible memory in general. Sometimes i forget the names of friends i’ve had for twelve years, i can’t remember someone elses phone number for the life of me (so i am royally screwed if i ever get arrested), right now writing this i have to keep referring back to the book because i have already forgotten the information i just read. I find it interesting how they even studied memory with the nonsense syllables words and number sequences. I also thought the memory drum was an interesting device for testing one's memory.
2a) What person did you find interesting?
Fechner
2b) Why were they interesting to you?
i found his story morbidly funny, because he kept looking into the sun and went blind (sort of). All i kept thinking was where was this guys mother to tell him not to do that or he’d go blind? i mean did he really think it was a good idea to do that much damage to your optic nerve? i know this is probably a presentist point of view, but even back then they should have known better. I wonder if this guy is the reason moms warn their children not to look into the sun, because it had to come from somewhere.
3a) What do you think of the overall message of the chapter?
The overall message of the chapter i thought was to explain why in this time period it was popular to travel abroad to Europe
3b) Was it interesting to you? Why or why not?
Not really, aside from the memory stuff i found it dry.
4) What did you read in the chapter that you think will be most useful to in understanding the history of psychology?
Just the realization as to why in certain times in history that people focused in certain arias of the world… IE France, Germany, Italy, and America
5) How, in what ways, does this chapter relate (build on) to what you have already learned about the History of Psychology or to material you have learned in other classes?
It did in the way that it showed which psychologist studied/ mentored under who, you can see the baton being passed down the line in the way that this person discovered this and then his research students went on to this, and with their guidance this was discovered in their labs with their students.
6a) What topic would you like to learn more about?
Muller or Wurzburg
6b) Why? they were the only two from the chapter that peaked my interest.
7) What ideas or questions related to what you were reading did you have while reading the chapter?
Imageless thought was an interesting concept, and i wondered how it could be aplied to people who were born blind?
nonsense syllables, memory drum, Imageless thought
1a) What topic did you find interesting?
I found the forgetting curve to be very interesting. 1b) Why was it interesting to you?
I found it to be very interesting because I can apply it to my own life, since I am sometimes very forgetful. Memory is a very important aspect of someone and how it is established and saved is relevant to Ebbinghaus' forgetting curve experiment.
2a) What person did you find interesting?
I found Gustav Fechner to be most interesting. 2b) Why were they interesting to you?
The way the Fechner approaches his study is a very odd and interesting way. He was very brilliant in developing his method of limits and the method of constant stimuli, but after reading about his study on afterimages in vision after looking into a bright light, he seemed to be even more interesting to me. He was not afraid to try anything to get the answers he needed.
3a) What do you think of the overall message of the chapter?
I think that the overall message of the chapter was to highlight contributions and dates from historical psychologists and how experimental psychology came into existence. 3b) Was it interesting to you? Why or why not?
It was not as interesting as other chapters we have read mostly because I do not enjoy history. Although, it was very interesting to see the development of experimental psychology.
4) What did you read in the chapter that you think will be most useful to in understanding the history of psychology?
I think that the point of remembering the history of psychology is a very important aspect because although all of these experiments have influenced psychology, everything can change and can impact how we understand psychology as if develops more and more.
5) How, in what ways, does this chapter relate (build on) to what you have already learned about the History of Psychology or to material you have learned in other classes?
This chapter has built on how science and experimental psychology go hand in hand and developed at a rapid rate. Science led into modern psychology and the history of psychology shapes what we know today and how we apply it.
6a) What topic would you like to learn more about?
I would like to learn more about sensation and perception. 6b) Why?
They are very interesting topics and can almost always be applied to the topic being discussed.
7) What ideas or questions related to what you were reading did you have while reading the chapter?
I wanted to know a little more about the imageless thought. It was never really resolved and I would like to understand it a little more.
8) imageless thought, forgetting curve, Ebbinghaus forgetting curve, Gustav Fechner, constant stimuli, sensation, perception, imageless thought